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"Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
 
   The tragedy of the original Pokémon theme is that wild Pokémon respawn infinitely in the tall grass areas. This means that Ash has unwittingly set himself a task that is not merely improbably difficult, but literally impossible. Try all he likes, he can never catch them all.

This is why his friends and companions grow, change, and move on with their lives, while he remains eternally 10 years old and not very good at Pokémon. Without knowing it, he's become a lich. Billions of years hence, when civilization is dust and the Sun is growing dim and cool, he will still be roaming what remains of the Earth, catching the stunted abominations of the far future.

Cursed by the gods for his hubris. Never to be forgiven.

Never declare something you don't fully understand to be your destiny.

You may turn out to be right.

--G.
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Pokémon as Greek Tragedy [View All] Gryphonadmin Nov-20-19 TOP
  RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy Meridias Nov-21-19 1
  RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy Matrix Dragon Nov-21-19 2
     RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy Gryphonadmin Nov-21-19 3
         RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy DaPatman89 Nov-21-19 4
             RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy Gryphonadmin Nov-21-19 5
         RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy Peter Eng Nov-24-19 7
  RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy SpottedKitty Nov-22-19 6
     RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy DaemeonX Dec-12-19 8
  RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy Gryphonadmin Dec-18-19 9

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Meridias
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Nov-21-19, 03:59 AM (EDT)
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1. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-19 AT 04:03 AM (EST)
 
At least, until someone comes along, taps him on the shoulder and tells him "Uh, Ash? The phrase 'catch them all' only means to catch one of each. Y'know, to get the Pokedex entry?"

Ash: "... Well, shit."

edit: I know it's a kid's show and he actually wouldn't say that, but after a revelation that big there's really not much else to say, especially after the aforementioned 'becoming a lich' thing.

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2. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   Luckily for Ash, there's evidence his situation is not because of Hubris on his part. Rather, there's an awful lot of prophecies all finishing up within a few decades of each other, all of which mention a 'Chosen One'. Some of them are pretty specific about who they're aimed at, such as the prophecy that includes the phrase 'And the World shall turn to Ash'. Most of them probably could be solved by any passing ten year old and their team of monsters.

But the Gods, as they often do, got lazy. Why prepare dozens of Chosen Ones, when you can just grant someone a form of immortality and make them do all the work? 'Gotta catch them all' is just the justification for their cruelty.

That said, the Gods could be in for an unpleasant shock. After all, Pokéballs work on ALL monsters, even the one that made the universe...

Matrix Dragon, J. Random Nutter


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3. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   >That said, the Gods could be in for an unpleasant shock. After all,
>Pokéballs work on ALL monsters, even the one that made the
>universe...

(two thousand, five hundred sixty-eight failed attempts with Ultra Balls later)

(poof!)

God ran away!

"... dammit."

--G.
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DaPatman89
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4. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   This is where I get my Pokémon nerd on and point out that if you've been trying that long, Timer Balls have the best catch rate.

Okay the Master Ball has the actual best catch rate, but you only get one of those, which should be saved for a roaming legendary. Arceus doesn't roam.

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5. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-19 AT 05:12 PM (EST)
 
>This is where I get my Pokémon nerd on and point out that if you've
>been trying that long, Timer Balls have the best catch rate.

They don't exist in the game virtually all of my Pokémon experience has been on, though, so I wouldn't have known that when I made the joke. :)

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7. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
In response to message #3
 
   >>That said, the Gods could be in for an unpleasant shock. After all,
>>Pokéballs work on ALL monsters, even the one that made the
>>universe...
>
>(two thousand, five hundred sixty-eight failed attempts with Ultra
>Balls later)
>
>(poof!)
>
>God ran away!
>
>"... dammit."
>

"On the bright side, I still have Cthulhu and Shub-Niggurath."

Peter Eng
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6. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-22-19 AT 07:59 PM (EST)
 
>Never declare something you don't fully understand to be your destiny.
>
>You may turn out to be right.

Heh, that reminds me of a character from the Girl Genius comic, an African pygmy. He'd sworn to his gods that he'd see the world before he died. He thinks he's well over 100 years old, but looks a quarter of that.

"I didn't think it was that big..."

"What does that have to do with your age?"

"People here just don't take sacred vows seriously!"

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DaemeonX
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8. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   Et tu Pikachu?

(Yes, yes, I know, wrong, but I couldn't get the idea of Pikachu with a shank ghosting Ash.)


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9. "RE: Pokémon as Greek Tragedy"
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   Meanwhile, Pokémon Sword: In which a heroic and adorable Scottish Pokémon trainer is forced by immutable circumstance to cruelly shatter the hopes, dreams, and ambitions of her two best friends, one after the other, in front of 100,000 screaming pokésportsball fans. (And who knows how many more watching on TV.)

It's brutal, absolutely brutal. Neither a fledgling attachment born in preliminary competition nor childhood friendship counts for anything under the white-hot but comfortless glare of the stadium lights. In the grim darkness of the Galar Premier League, there is only war.

I weep for Syd as I would for a sister. Forced to discard love in the relentless search for victory--a victory whose significance she doesn't understand. She doesn't know why she must win at such cost. She knows only that she needs. But like so many of us, she does not know what.

--G.
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zgryphon at that email service Google has
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