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16. "a few more general thoughts"
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   Y'know, it's funny. You see the horror stories, people recounting laundry lists of bugs, the gi-normous day-zero patch, reviewers talking about how they got the setting wrong, this or that mechanic is broken, it's a rush job, it doesn't feel finished, it's the worst highly-hyped game since Daikatana (remember, John Romero is going to make you his bitch), the producers are terrible people, and so forth and so on. And some of it is undeniably true--certainly the patch is, and the epilepsy trigger thing is a massive facepalm that needs addressing real soon--and a lot of the rest is probably true too. I'm fully prepared to believe, for instance, that the management-level people behind the game are the scum of the Earth. Their sort usually are nowadays.

But then I watch Jingles actually, you know... playing the game, and y'know, it looks like he's having a lot of fun, even when the game is doing something dumb. In his hands it's sort of an urban-dystopia Elder Scrolls game, which is really all I suspect a lot of people want out of it. It's pretty much all I would really want out of it. (Also, for what this is worth, he's a CP2020 veteran who appears to reckon that they did, in fact, get the setting right.)

I mean, I'm still not planning to buy it unless someone throws a giant Steam gift card at me for Christmas, because it is very expensive and my ass is very broke, but if it cost me little or nothing, I'd be up for trying it out. As it is, perhaps my time with it will be two or three years hence when the inevitable discount compilation edition pops up, but based on the gameplay footage I've seen (as opposed to the press buzz and other third-party accounts), I expect that time will eventually come.

It's been a while since I saw a game that polarized opinion so strongly, too. Everyone who's playing it seems either to love CP2077 in spite of its flaws or despise the fact that it was ever greenlit. I have yet to see anyone who is interested in it (so, leaving out the people who just don't give a crap one way or the other) whose opinion about it is equivocal. Different people's experiences of the same game being so diametrically opposed makes a strong case for the pointlessness of third-party reviews.

OTOH, maybe that's just because there's no center to anything here in 2020. It hasn't escaped my irony detector that the reaction to Cyberpunk 2077 is, in itself, very cyberpunk. The game is a product of The Man, after all, and there's always something inherently ridiculous about a major media production with a basis in an anti-establishment message. "What ho, fellow rebellious youths!"

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