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18. "RE: A few notes"
In response to message #17
 
   >Yeah, it's largely at artist's discretion, which has led to some odd
>situations where ships of the same class wear totally different
>outfits from their sisters.

One of the best examples of that phenomenon I can think of offhand is the Fubuki-class ships, all of whom from the first batch (that is, Special Type I, not Ayanami Type II or Akatsuki Type III) look basically alike... except Murakumo, who looks like the personification of some kind of space cruiser or something. There's no historical basis for this, the real Murakumo wasn't some kind of experimental testing platform or involved in any weird mythical adventure like the USS Eldridge (of Philadelphia Experiment fame); she's just drawn by a different artist with a radically different style.

>At the same time, artists will generally stick to similar themes,

(sometimes to the point of fan ridicule, as in the virtually interchangeable Fubuki sisters)

>which is why Amatsukaze, Shimakaze, and the Akizuki sisters have pet
>turrets, as Shizuma Yoshinori was responsible for their artwork.

At least in Amatsukaze's case, it kind of makes sense that she looks more like Shimakaze than her actual sister ships in the Kagerō class, given that she was the testbed for Shimakaze's experimental engines.

>So admirals would put several hours or days worth of
>resources into construction looking for a battleship, then get yet
>another Naka-chan.

The construction system may be the silliest thing in KanColle, which is saying something, given what an inherently silly thing the game is. Imagine a shipbuilding industry so byzantine and stupid that no one can tell what kind of ship is being constructed until it's operational. Not even the Soviets did that. :)

>And even as bad as Naka-chan had it, she was still in a better spot
>than poor Isuzu.

Or Maru-yu. Poor Maru-yu.

>Entire books could be written about the effects of the Washington
>Naval Treaty on ship design and naval strategy since WWI. Without it,
>the Pacific War might very well have been a contest between
>battleships and cruisers rather than the carrier duels that it largely
>became. Or a much bloodier affair as both sides would have been free
>to build as many large ships as they liked without tonnage limits to
>force design compromises. It's one of those huge "What If?"'s of
>world history.

I think the inherent superiority of aircraft as long-range naval weapons would still have won out, simply because they're so much better at... well... everything; but it would have taken longer, and the battleship-fixated admirals on both sides might have gotten that Pacific Jutland they all spent the war hankering for. One last hurrah for heavy armor and high-caliber gunnery. It would've been something to see.

It's hard to picture how the war would have started in that scenario, though, given that the Japanese wouldn't have had a significant carrier force to carry out the Pearl Harbor attack, or the doctrine necessary for someone to think of it in the first place. As appealing as the image of a gunship Kido Butai including battleships Tosa and Kaga and heavy cruiser Akagi, I doubt they would have sent a battleship/heavy cruiser task force to stand off and shell the place, simply because that would probably not have worked (they'd have had to get so much closer that they would almost certainly have lost any semblance of surprise). Without being assured of a high chance of knocking out the US Pacific Fleet right from the outset, the Imperial Navy would have been a lot less likely to go along with the Army's "southern option" in the first place. We might have seen the version of history where the Japanese attacked the USSR first (the "northern option"), and then, well. That opens up a huge can of historical worms, because how and when does the US even get involved at that point, in the Pacific or Europe?

All of which is quite far afield of the original point, but it's intriguing to consider.

(To bring it back to KanColle a little, I've seen a number of fan artworks depicting Kaga in her originally planned battleship form—she's dressed a lot like Nagato in most of them, which makes sense, since the Tosa-class ships were basically Block II Nagatos. I'm not sure I've ever seen Akagi in her theoretical cruiser rig, though.)

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   RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night Peter Eng Nov-25-16 1
   RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night Verbena Nov-25-16 2
      RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night Peter Eng Nov-25-16 3
          RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night Verbena Nov-25-16 4
              RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night Peter Eng Nov-25-16 6
              RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night zwol Nov-25-16 7
   A few notes Gryphonadmin Nov-25-16 5
      RE: A few notes CdrMike Dec-01-16 17
         RE: A few notes Gryphonadmin Dec-01-16 18
              RE: A few notes CdrMike Dec-01-16 20
                  RE: A few notes Gryphonadmin Dec-01-16 21
                      RE: A few notes VoidRandom Dec-01-16 22
                          RE: A few notes The Traitor Dec-02-16 23
      RE: A few notes Gryphonadmin Jun-05-18 25
          RE: A few notes Star Ranger4 Jun-11-18 26
          RE: A few notes Nathan Jun-12-18 27
   RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night SpottedKitty Nov-25-16 8
   RE: OOTR Mini/Teaser: Rhythm of the Night DaPatman89 Nov-29-16 9
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