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"Perilous Intersections"
 
   One of the dangerous things about the UF universe is that it allows for not only terrifying character meetings - the previously hypothesized Kari Byron/Amy Pond team-up, for instance - but also really inadvisable theme collisions that simply cannot happen, in many cases, in the original source materials.

For instance, there's basically no way you could justify a cowboy-themed Trandoshan bounty hunter called "Hossk" in even the most preposterous Star Wars Diluted Universe product, but in the UF universe it's a simple matter of saying that he was a war orphan who was raised by a rancher on New Texas.

--G.
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Perilous Intersections [View All] Gryphonadmin Dec-11-12 TOP
  RE: Perilous Intersections A Vile Gangster Dec-11-12 1
     RE: Perilous Intersections Gryphonadmin Dec-12-12 4
         RE: Perilous Intersections StClair Dec-14-12 12
             RE: Perilous Intersections Prince Charon Dec-21-12 16
  RE: Perilous Intersections eriktown Dec-11-12 2
     RE: Perilous Intersections Gryphonadmin Dec-12-12 5
  RE: Perilous Intersections The Traitor Dec-12-12 3
     RE: Perilous Intersections Gryphonadmin Dec-12-12 6
         RE: Perilous Intersections ebony14 Dec-12-12 7
             RE: Perilous Intersections A Vile Gangster Dec-12-12 10
                 RE: Perilous Intersections ebony14 Dec-13-12 11
  RE: Perilous Intersections ebony14 Dec-12-12 8
     RE: Perilous Intersections McFortner Dec-12-12 9
  RE: Perilous Intersections glasswalker Dec-18-12 13
     RE: Perilous Intersections mdg1 Dec-19-12 14
         RE: Perilous Intersections Star Ranger4 Dec-21-12 15

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A Vile Gangster
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1. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-11-12 AT 08:37 PM (EST)
 
>Hossk

Oh, gods, FUND IT. Just for the hot Trandoshan-cowboy-hat-and-shootin'-iron action.

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4. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   >"*SIGH* I'm TRANDOSHAN, not Gorn. They're the ones with pronounced
>occipital ridges. Yeah, don't sweat it buddy, we get that a
>lot..."

In UF, they may well have a common ancestor, Vulcan/Romulan style.

--G.
"Don't even talk to me about those guys and their stupid compound eyes." "Those are goggles." "I said shut up."
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12. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-14-12 AT 02:01 AM (EST)
 
I have a minor Gorn character (bridge officer) who frequently annoys others by wearing those "mirrorshades" almost constantly, only reluctantly taking them off and letting them see her real eyes.


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16. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   >I have a minor Gorn character (bridge officer) who frequently annoys
>others by wearing those "mirrorshades" almost constantly, only
>reluctantly taking them off and letting them see her real eyes.

I tend to assume that those compound eyes were really intended to be actual compound eyes, because the Gorn are aliens, not dinosaurs.

I also find 'These are the Voyages' something of a relief, because it makes it clear that the whole series was an in-universe holonovel series, thus nicely explaining away all the plotholes.

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eriktown
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2. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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>For instance, there's basically no way you could justify a
>cowboy-themed Trandoshan bounty hunter called "Hossk" in even the most
>preposterous Star Wars Diluted Universe product, but in the UF
>universe it's a simple matter of saying that he was a war orphan who
>was raised by a rancher on New Texas.

WIth an origin story straight out of Enemy Mine?


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5. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   >WIth an origin story straight out of Enemy Mine?

I don't know enough about Trandoshan reproduction* to comment on how exact the parallels might be, but something along those lines, perhaps.

--G.
* AND DON'T TELL ME, EITHER
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3. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   Of course, the word cowboy might be considered a highly derogatory insult to citizens of the Minotaurian Hegemony of Ovandros Sigma...

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6. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   >Of course, the word cowboy might be considered a highly derogatory
>insult to citizens of the Minotaurian Hegemony of Ovandros Sigma...

The football coach at New Texas A&M probably runs into similar problems a lot during his mid-game harangues.

"You guys call that a defensive line?! You're just milling around out there like cattle! Uh, no offense, Frank."

"Yeah, yeah."

--G.
"And if someone's ox is being gored - ... oh, for Christ's sake, Frank."
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ebony14
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7. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   >>Of course, the word cowboy might be considered a highly derogatory
>>insult to citizens of the Minotaurian Hegemony of Ovandros Sigma...
>
>The football coach at New Texas A&M probably runs into similar
>problems a lot during his mid-game harangues.
>

To say nothing of the annual Thanksgiving game with the University of New Texas Longhorns.

Ebony the Black Dragon

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A Vile Gangster
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10. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   Heh heh. The one game of the season the U(N)T Mascot is never in attendance. At least, not in costume.

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11. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-13-12 AT 08:55 AM (EST)
 
Being an actual longhorn steer, Bevo's never in costume (unless you consider a lead and cowbell to be costume). Like Reveille (Texas A&M's collie mascot), he's au natural.

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8. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   >For instance, there's basically no way you could justify a
>cowboy-themed Trandoshan bounty hunter called "Hossk" in even the most
>preposterous Star Wars Diluted Universe product, but in the UF
>universe it's a simple matter of saying that he was a war orphan who
>was raised by a rancher on New Texas.

Last name of Rango, maybe?

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9. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   With those eyes, Rango would more likely be a member of the Tau Ceti II Race.

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glasswalker
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13. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
In response to message #0
 
   >For instance, there's basically no way you could justify a
>cowboy-themed Trandoshan bounty hunter called "Hossk" in even the most
>preposterous Star Wars Diluted Universe product, but in the UF
>universe it's a simple matter of saying that he was a war orphan who
>was raised by a rancher on New Texas.
>
>--G.
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>Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
>Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
>zgryphon at that email service Google has
>Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.

Sadly, the moment you said New Texas, I started thinking about BraveStarr (i.e., that somewhat obscure late 80's cartoon -- essentially the Wild West IN SPACE!), which actually had a humanoid-reptilian alien on New Texas. (If you're not familiar with the show, you're not missing much.)

"Everyone gets lost in the darkness
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars..."
- Rush, "The Pass"


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14. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   "Strength of the bear!"

OK, so my memory is wired to remember old cartoons. *shrug*

There're a few other sci-fi western cartoons & anime from that era. Galaxy Rangers was probably the best (right, Phil?) but I have a soft spot for Saber Rider & the Star Sheriffs, simply because it gave Peter Cullen an excuse to do a John Wayne impression in the voice of Optimus Prime. :)

I could see Gryph using any of these... but probably not "The Wild West Cow boys of Moo Mesa" :D

Mario


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15. "RE: Perilous Intersections"
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   >I could see Gryph using any of these... but probably not "The Wild
>West Cow boys of Moo Mesa" :D

Gee. Ya think? :p

Of COURSE you wernt
expecting it!
No One expects the
FANNISH INQUISITION!

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