[ EPU Foyer ] [ Lab and Grill ] [ Bonus Theater!! ] [ Rhetorical Questions ] [ CSRANTronix ] [ GNDN ] [ Subterranean Vault ] [ Discussion Forum ] [ Gun of the Week ]

Eyrie Productions, Unlimited

Subject: "Characters you'd love to see in NF"     Previous Topic | Next Topic
Printer-friendly copy    
Conferences The New Frontier Topic #22
Reading Topic #22
junipermoderator
Charter Member
513 posts
Jan-30-14, 12:28 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail juniper Click to send private message to juniper Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
"Characters you'd love to see in NF"
 
   New thread, folks, the old one's over 50 posts long.


Juniper
Rampaging Karateka Crypto-Kwavu'b Contributing Editor (and Moderator)
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited
Because why be ordinary in your choice of hobbies?


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
Characters you'd love to see in NF [View All] junipermoderator Jan-30-14 TOP
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Vehrec Feb-02-14 1
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF DaPatman89 Feb-03-14 6
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Blackbird Feb-03-14 9
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-03-14 11
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF JeanneHedge Feb-02-14 2
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-03-14 5
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF JeanneHedge Feb-06-14 38
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-06-14 41
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-03-14 12
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-03-14 13
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF SpottedKitty Feb-03-14 15
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-03-14 16
                 RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-03-14 17
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF JeanneHedge Feb-06-14 39
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF BobSchroeck Feb-03-14 3
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF mdg1 Feb-03-14 4
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF DaPatman89 Feb-03-14 7
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Narutaki Feb-03-14 8
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-03-14 10
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-03-14 14
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-03-14 18
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Bodhi Feb-03-14 19
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-03-14 20
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Pasha Feb-03-14 21
                 RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Senji Feb-04-14 26
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-03-14 22
                 RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-04-14 23
                     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-04-14 24
                         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF BobSchroeck Feb-04-14 25
                         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-05-14 33
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Peter Eng Feb-04-14 29
                 RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-04-14 31
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF junipermoderator Feb-04-14 32
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-10-14 46
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-10-14 47
                 RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF BobSchroeck Feb-10-14 48
                     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Verbena Feb-12-14 54
                 RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF ebony14 Feb-12-14 51
                     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Gryphonadmin Feb-12-14 52
                         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF ebony14 Feb-12-14 53
                             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF mdg1 Feb-12-14 55
                                 RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF ebony14 Feb-12-14 56
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mephronmoderator Feb-04-14 27
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF mdg1 Feb-04-14 28
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF jonathanlennox Feb-04-14 30
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF The Traitor Feb-05-14 34
             RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF SpottedKitty Feb-05-14 35
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF JeanneHedge Feb-06-14 42
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF trboturtle2 Feb-06-14 36
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF junipermoderator Feb-06-14 37
     RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF JeanneHedge Feb-06-14 40
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF trboturtle2 Feb-06-14 43
         RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Mercutio Feb-06-14 44
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Proginoskes Feb-09-14 45
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF McFortner Feb-10-14 49
  RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF Verbena Feb-10-14 50

Conferences | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic
Vehrec
Member since Feb-21-09
86 posts
Feb-02-14, 09:51 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Vehrec Click to send private message to Vehrec Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list Click to send message via AOL IM  
1. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   Jebediah Kerman, Test Pilot extraordinare.

Or if he was a Golden Age kerbal pilot, now long departed and much mourned, his spiritual descendant: MechJeb! The only Autopilot that can fly a Valkarie through and out the envelope and back in the other side.*

*MechJeb is not actually that good of a pilot-do not engage MechJeb in docking mode and go prepare snacks, leaving the autopilot unsupervised. Do not attempt to program a suicide burn landing profile. Do not attempt to use Mechjeb without calibrating it to local atmospheric conditions. Do not scream at MechJeb. Do not ask MechJeb to Open the podbay doors. Use of MechJeb with third-party navigation data invalidates the warranty and absolves Anatid Robotics and Multiversal Mechatronics of all liability for accidents and collisions. Please use Mech-jeb responsibly.

“Navigare Necesse Est”-'Get me out of here!'

Group Captain Konstantin Vehrec


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
DaPatman89
Member since May-2-12
87 posts
Feb-03-14, 05:15 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail DaPatman89 Click to send private message to DaPatman89 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
6. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #1
 
   >Jebediah Kerman, Test Pilot extraordinare.

Given how much KSP I've been playing recently, I have to second this.

---

"Things in life aren't always quite what they seem,
There's more than one given angle to any one given scene.
So bear that in mind next time you try to intervene
On any one given angle on any one given scene."
Angles - dan le sac vs. Scroobius Pip


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Blackbird
Member since Jan-2-13
25 posts
Feb-03-14, 06:13 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Blackbird Click to send private message to Blackbird Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
9. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #1
 
   Perhaps as an Irken test pilot, seeing as there's apparently some thoughts floating around the net about a possible connection between Kerbals and Irken. (And it's just the kind of dovetail Eyrie likes, in the same manner as Thrawn being a Gamilon.)

Regardless, if he's actually dead, I'm sure there'd be legends of him, appearing in a pilot's hour of need to pull back a desperately stricken craft from certain doom.

One wonders what shenanigans he and the other various early-spaceflight heroes would get up to in Valhalla.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-03-14, 06:49 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
11. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #9
 
   >One wonders what shenanigans he and the other various
>early-spaceflight heroes would get up to in Valhalla.

Wally Schirra and Yuri Gagarin are renowned throughout Valhalla for what they did to Shirotsugh Lhadatt after he passed out at the Ragnarök party.

--G.
"Oh, that view is tremendous!"
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JeanneHedge
Charter Member
933 posts
Feb-02-14, 11:44 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail JeanneHedge Click to send private message to JeanneHedge Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
2. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   Not new characters, but checking in with some old characters we have seen very little of (if anything) in the last few years, perhaps in a style similar to the Five Bagatelles story. For some examples, how about Yuri, Edward & Ein (and the Major), Mac, Noriko? I'd mention The Twins too, but their current story seems to have been on hold for a while now. (officially having a "desk job" does not necessarily mean you can't be doing other things too)


Jeanne


Jeanne Hedge
http://www.jhedge.com
"Never give up, never surrender!"


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-03-14, 12:02 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
5. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #2
 
   >Not new characters, but checking in with some old characters we have
>seen very little of (if anything) in the last few years, perhaps in a
>style similar to the Five Bagatelles story. For some examples, how
>about Yuri, Edward & Ein (and the Major), Mac, Noriko?

Mother of Grodd, have pity. I'm only one old, tired man.

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JeanneHedge
Charter Member
933 posts
Feb-06-14, 06:17 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail JeanneHedge Click to send private message to JeanneHedge Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
38. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #5
 
   >>Not new characters, but checking in with some old characters we have
>>seen very little of (if anything) in the last few years, perhaps in a
>>style similar to the Five Bagatelles story. For some examples, how
>>about Yuri, Edward & Ein (and the Major), Mac, Noriko?
>
>Mother of Grodd, have pity. I'm only one old, tired man.

no one says you have to do it, or even consider it


Jeanne


Jeanne Hedge
http://www.jhedge.com
"Never give up, never surrender!"


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-06-14, 06:27 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
41. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #38
 
   >>Mother of Grodd, have pity. I'm only one old, tired man.
>
>no one says you have to do it, or even consider it

Well, of course I have to consider it, someone asked for it. I'm not a sociopath, that kind of thing is basically automatic. :)

That said, my moan was mainly tongue-in-cheek. Although like most such, it had a grain of truth in it. I am feeling pretty old and tired of late. Mind you, a lot of that is just because it's February.

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-03-14, 07:30 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
12. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #2
 
   > For some examples, how about Yuri

Food for thought; Yuri has a whole other kid we know next to nothing about.

I like to imagine that sometime around 2420 Afura is going to be a bit chuffed her parents didn't get around to her in a timely enough fashion for her to share in all the awesome adventures her half-siblings and pseudo-cousins engaged in growing up on account of being between the ages of five and twelve at the time. :)

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-03-14, 07:36 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
13. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #12
 
   >> For some examples, how about Yuri
>
>Food for thought; Yuri has a whole other kid we know next to nothing
>about.

Ah, Afura. She's kind of an orphan - not in the customary sense, obviously, but in terms of story construction. She was originally intended to be part of a "second wave" that happened around 2410... and then the rest of it didn't happen.

>I like to imagine that sometime around 2420 Afura is going to be a bit
>chuffed her parents didn't get around to her in a timely enough
>fashion for her to share in all the awesome adventures her
>half-siblings and pseudo-cousins engaged in growing up on account of
>being between the ages of five and twelve at the time. :)

I think "chuffed" means the opposite of what you think it means...

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SpottedKitty
Member since Jun-15-04
519 posts
Feb-03-14, 08:02 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail SpottedKitty Click to send private message to SpottedKitty Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
15. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #13
 
   >I think "chuffed" means the opposite of what you think it means...

Over on this side of the Pond (not that one) the usual phrasing is "dischuffed". (The opposite is, of course, "gruntled".) ;)

--
Unable to save the day: File is read-only.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-03-14, 08:03 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
16. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #13
 
  
>I think "chuffed" means the opposite of what you think it means...

... dammit, yes, you are correct.

For someone who uses as much british slang as I do you'd think I'd have gotten that one right. It somehow got tangled up in my mind with "huffy".

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-03-14, 08:05 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
17. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #16
 
   >
>>I think "chuffed" means the opposite of what you think it means...
>
>... dammit, yes, you are correct.
>
>For someone who uses as much british slang as I do you'd think I'd
>have gotten that one right. It somehow got tangled up in my mind with
>"huffy".

Yeah, I think you were reaching for "miffed" and then thought "wait, no, in a huff" and it all went horribly, horribly wrong. :)

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JeanneHedge
Charter Member
933 posts
Feb-06-14, 06:20 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail JeanneHedge Click to send private message to JeanneHedge Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
39. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #12
 
  
>I like to imagine that sometime around 2420 Afura is going to be a bit
>chuffed her parents didn't get around to her in a timely enough
>fashion for her to share in all the awesome adventures her
>half-siblings and pseudo-cousins engaged in growing up on account of
>being between the ages of five and twelve at the time. :)

IIRC, being in that age range didn't stop Corwin and Len from a significant adventure or two (for which Dorothy is rather thankful)


Jeanne


Jeanne Hedge
http://www.jhedge.com
"Never give up, never surrender!"


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
BobSchroeck
Charter Member
2205 posts
Feb-03-14, 09:35 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail BobSchroeck Click to send private message to BobSchroeck Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
3. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-14 AT 09:36 AM (EST)
 
I wouldn't mind seeing how pretty much any of the interesting folks from RWBY might fit into UF -- Remnant strikes me as a perfect candidate for a nearly-forgotten Rim world, making a go against a hostile ecosphere much in the same way that Ragol does, using its own unique set of Getter-sensitive ores and crystals to fuel all manner of devices and personal abilities. And of course, they'd all make good Duelist candidates.

If pressed for specific characters, I'd say I'd love to see Nora Valkyrie and Lie Ren meet up with the folks at DSM. Nora because she's a hoot and a half, and Lie Ren because they're a matched set.

-- Bob
-------------------
My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
mdg1
Member since Aug-25-04
1199 posts
Feb-03-14, 11:06 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail mdg1 Click to send private message to mdg1 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
4. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   On a similar note, I could see Honnōji Academy (from Kill La Kill) being somehow connected to Surtur or Trigon. Life Fibers as demonic/Sith infestation?

Mario


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
DaPatman89
Member since May-2-12
87 posts
Feb-03-14, 05:17 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail DaPatman89 Click to send private message to DaPatman89 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
7. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   I would not be averse to an appearence from the Wright and Co. Law Offices.

---

"Things in life aren't always quite what they seem,
There's more than one given angle to any one given scene.
So bear that in mind next time you try to intervene
On any one given angle on any one given scene."
Angles - dan le sac vs. Scroobius Pip


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Narutaki
Member since Feb-3-14
5 posts
Feb-03-14, 06:00 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Narutaki Click to send private message to Narutaki Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
8. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   With all the references to tokusatsu in UF -- Ultraman, Godzilla, and allusions to Super Sentai -- where's the love for Kamen Rider?

I could totally see Phillip and Shotarou(aka Kamen Rider Double) as detectives(possibly Grey Lensmen?) in New Avalon or someplace.

Of course, there's something like 40-plus years of material to cover when it comes to Kamen Rider... how could to fit it all in? Maybe if all the evil organizations that the Showa Riders fought were precursors of Big Fire, or Big Fire-esque organizations?

...when all else fails, it's all Decade's fault!


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-03-14, 06:34 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
10. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #8
 
   >With all the references to tokusatsu in UF -- Ultraman, Godzilla, and
>allusions to Super Sentai -- where's the love for Kamen Rider?

Never seen it! My only exposure to Kamen Rider is the kid in early Ninja High School* who delivered for the noodle restaurant.

--G.
* who may well also be in later Ninja High School, but I've only read early Ninja High School, so, you know
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-03-14, 07:56 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
14. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-14 AT 08:01 PM (EST)
 
Oh man. A fresh shiny wishlist thread. Should I write a manifesto about Friendship is Magic?

... no. Not today. But! Other things. It's funny... if I'd taken part in the original thread, a year ago, it would have been just a very long rant about getting Atla into UF somehow. How times do change.

As others have noted in this thread, I wouldn't mind checking in on old friends at some point. In particular, I'd like to see that Leverage story finally see the light of day, or some more stuff with the Jedi Academy Harry Potter Cast. Although frankly, I imagine someone somewhere has already written that.

But I digress. Paring things down, my top three "haven't appeared in UF, would like to see'em in New Frontier, think they'd be appropriate" picks are, in ascending order...

3) Loki. No, not the dead guy. And not MCU Loki, either. I'm as big a member of the Cult of Hiddleston as the next guy, but there's not a good way to shoehorn him in anyway and frankly, his conceptual space is mostly occupied by Akio anyway.

No, I mean Child Loki, from Kieron Gillen's wonderful, spectacular run on Journey into Mystery. There was a long period there where I wasn't reading any Marvel title that didn't involve Matt Fraction. I made an exception for Kieron and have not regretted it for a single day.

Child Loki thematically fits UF in all the right ways and is just an amazing character, and with the pre-existing Asgard stuff here in the setting... well. There's just so much potential there.

2) Elphaba Thropp. Yes. That Elphaba Thropp. Book or musical flavor, I'm not picky.

Anthy's witchery is coming along nicely these days, but she could probably use some additional mentoring/peer review, and the Wicked Witch of the West is just about the gold standard for witching it up, really. I mean, come on. The Shire of all places made it into UF, Oz isn't that much a stretch, especially since Ace is hanging around somewhere. Or hell, she could just be an awesome Orion lady. I'm pretty easy.

And topping the list...

1) Elsa the Snow Queen.

I feel no need whatsoever to justify my love for Elsa. To do so would be to cheapen it. :)

Honorable mentions:
-Peter Burke and Neal Caffrey. Go watch White Collar.
-Shego. Really, with Phil on the production team I don't get how that hasn't already happened.
-Kate Bishop and Clint Barton. The Matt Fraction versions only, please.
-IPO Agent Philip Coulson. This time, yes, the MCU version.
-Unicron. Theoretically, with Cybertron Dreams no longer canon, he has, in fact, yet to actually show up. :)
-The brave men and women of the Extraterrestrial Combat Unit.

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-03-14, 08:16 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
18. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #14
 
   >3) Loki. No, not the dead guy. And not MCU Loki, either. I'm as big a
>member of the Cult of Hiddleston as the next guy, but there's not a
>good way to shoehorn him in anyway

Sure there is. You just haven't thought of it. That's usually what people mean when they say things like that. :)

>No, I mean Child Loki, from
>Kieron Gillen's wonderful,
>spectacular run on Journey into Mystery.

Not to be confused, as my brain always does, with Karen Gillan's run on Journey into Mystery, which was frankly a bit of a letdown.

>Child Loki thematically fits UF in all the right ways and is just an
>amazing character, and with the pre-existing Asgard stuff here in the
>setting... well. There's just so much potential there.

There are a couple of problems there, but the main one is that I haven't read a Marvel comic - or indeed any comic - in... oh... quite a few years at this point, and cannot really be said to have any burning ambition to do so again anytime soon. Which would make research challenging.

>2) Elphaba Thropp. Yes. That Elphaba Thropp.

You say that - as people so often do these days - as if I ought to know what you are talking about...

>1) Elsa the Snow Queen.

... and again.

>-Kate Bishop and Clint Barton. The Matt Fraction versions only,
>please.

I made a joke a couple years ago about how convenient it was that Jeremy Renner kept playing characters who could seamlessly be folded into a single UF character. His characters from The Hurt Locker, The Bourne Legacy, and The Avengers are obviously all the same guy: a former Earthforce EOD technician who was converted into a super-secret sleeper agent against his will, broke free of his sinister handlers, and then found the solace his tortured soul craved in the structure and method of the ancient, long-neglected archery form practiced by the Grammaton Clerics of the Order of St. Ignatius before the invention of firearms and the gun kata. I see no reason to walk that back. :)

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Bodhi
Member since Jan-19-09
24 posts
Feb-03-14, 08:53 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Bodhi Click to send private message to Bodhi Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
19. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #18
 
   >I made a joke a couple years ago about how convenient it was that
>Jeremy Renner kept playing characters who could seamlessly be folded
>into a single UF character. His characters from The Hurt
>Locker
, The Bourne Legacy, and The Avengers are
>obviously all the same guy: a former Earthforce EOD technician who was
>converted into a super-secret sleeper agent against his will, broke
>free of his sinister handlers, and then found the solace his tortured
>soul craved in the structure and method of the ancient, long-neglected
>archery form practiced by the Grammaton Clerics of the Order of St.
>Ignatius before the invention of firearms and the gun kata. I see no
>reason to walk that back. :)

That works! That's awesome, Gryph.
Hell, it'd be easy to have Geoff run into him and Brother Neo crossing paths on separate missions. Or, even better, Sister Destiny and EOD-Archer-badass get pinned down (against CoM, Big Fire, bad guys du jour) and Geoff is the nearest friendly operator.

Hell, almost makes me want to write it. Except then, Merc'd want to bust my chops, too.

-Bodhi

Elphaba Thropp? The wicked witch? IDIC in action, I guess.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-03-14, 08:53 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
20. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #18
 
   >>3) Loki. No, not the dead guy. And not MCU Loki, either. I'm as big a
>>member of the Cult of Hiddleston as the next guy, but there's not a
>>good way to shoehorn him in anyway
>
>Sure there is. You just haven't thought of it. That's usually what
>people mean when they say things like that. :)

Well, this is true. And frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing that particular flavor of Loki show up, because more Loki is always better than less Loki, in my opinion. :)

But it seems like the story of Loki the Supervillain has been told. There still, in my opinion, is room for a Loki in UF, because Loki is just such a versatile and powerful character whenever you're dealing with awesome mythical Norse stuff, just not that Loki. As I said, I kind of feel like his conceptual space is currently being occupied by Akio, who does everything MCU Loki does and is better at it because MCU Loki has some actual scruples and human affection in him and Akio does... not.

>>Child Loki thematically fits UF in all the right ways and is just an
>>amazing character, and with the pre-existing Asgard stuff here in the
>>setting... well. There's just so much potential there.
>
>There are a couple of problems there, but the main one is that I
>haven't read a Marvel comic - or indeed any comic - in... oh... quite
>a few years at this point, and cannot really be said to have any
>burning ambition to do so again anytime soon. Which would make
>research challenging.

Ahhh, gotcha.

I can't really blame you on this. I gave up on DC a long time ago. I still read a fair few comics, but these days I mostly follow specific creators, not brands or characters. I'd recommend some, but I think I just did that in a way (seriously, anything with Matt Fraction's name on it), and it is not as if you are... lacking in media to consume in general.

>>2) Elphaba Thropp. Yes. That Elphaba Thropp.
>
>You say that - as people so often do these days - as if I ought to
>know what you are talking about...

Heh, that's a fair cop here. I never know what you've read or haven't read, as every time I think I understand your tastes you drop something like, say, an obscure Italian history of the Night Walkers or something into conversation, or genre fiction I'd never have pegged you on.

Short version: 'bout twenty years, a fellow named Gregory Maguire wrote Wicked a fictional biography of Elphaba Thropp, the Wicked Witch of the West, of Wizard of Oz fame. It was... very, very good. Spawned a completely rocking Broadway musical and a series of sequels.

I know what you're thinking, I mean... the Land of Oz isn't precisely what you'd call cutting edge genre fiction, but there you go. It was a thing that happened and it gave me my favorite fictional witch ever. (Anthy, sadly, will always be a close second.) So that's what I was doing there.

Really, in a wishlist thread, my goal is "have awesome hypothetical conversations about UF" rather than "actually convince Ben of something." The latter is a bonus if and when it occurs. :)

>>1) Elsa the Snow Queen.
>
>... and again.

This is just me fanboying out over Frozen. :)

>>-Kate Bishop and Clint Barton. The Matt Fraction versions only,
>>please.
>
>I made a joke a couple years ago about how convenient it was that
>Jeremy Renner kept playing characters who could seamlessly be folded
>into a single UF character. His characters from The Hurt
>Locker
, The Bourne Legacy, and The Avengers are
>obviously all the same guy: a former Earthforce EOD technician who was
>converted into a super-secret sleeper agent against his will, broke
>free of his sinister handlers, and then found the solace his tortured
>soul craved in the structure and method of the ancient, long-neglected
>archery form practiced by the Grammaton Clerics of the Order of St.
>Ignatius before the invention of firearms and the gun kata. I see no
>reason to walk that back. :)

... no. No, there wouldn't be, would there? Not sure that's toppable.

Also are the Bourne movies worth watching after the first? I'm an enormous fan of the novels, and... well, the first one was okay. I'm generally a fan of Matt Damon. It was entertaining and all, but... no Carlos? Making Treadstone the heavies? Really? And I've heard vaguely that the franchise involved a lot of fridging of the women in Bourne's life, which is always a negative in my book. I just kind of never got around to the sequels.

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Pasha
Charter Member
988 posts
Feb-03-14, 10:56 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Pasha Click to send private message to Pasha Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list Click to send message via ICQ  
21. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #20
 
  
>Also are the Bourne movies worth watching after the first? I'm an
>enormous fan of the novels, and... well, the first one was okay. I'm
>generally a fan of Matt Damon. It was entertaining and all, but... no
>Carlos? Making Treadstone the heavies? Really? And I've heard vaguely
>that the franchise involved a lot of fridging of the women in Bourne's
>life, which is always a negative in my book. I just kind of never got
>around to the sequels.

I really quite enjoyed them, although the first is, IMO, by far the best (they got a little obsessed with shakeycam latter on).

As for fridging, IIRC he was only involved with the one woman, who's killed by a sniper who misses Bourne.

--
-Pasha
"Don't change the subject"
"Too slow, already did."


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Senji
Member since Apr-27-07
168 posts
Feb-04-14, 10:05 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail Senji Click to send private message to Senji Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
26. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #21
 
   >As for fridging, IIRC he was only involved with the one woman, who's
>killed by a sniper who misses Bourne.
>
What about Nicky? Or was that just my slash<1>-goggles on overdrive?

S.

<1> YKWIM.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-03-14, 11:10 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
22. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #20
 
   LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-14 AT 11:13 PM (EST)
 
>I'd recommend some, but I think I
>just did that in a way (seriously, anything with Matt Fraction's name
>on it), and it is not as if you are... lacking in media to consume in
>general.

I respect Fraction's work, I enjoyed the crap out of Five Fists of Science, and I have it on reasonably good authority that he's a pretty hoopy frood to hang out with in person...

... but I haaaaaated his run on Invincible Iron Man. Well, that's not entirely fair comment, I suppose. I haaaaaated his first arc on Invincible Iron Man and have no basis for comment on anything that followed, apart from general observations about the crackheadedness of the company-wide story arcs he presumably had to work within for the rest of his tenure on the book - which, in fairness, would probably have caused me to say "no, fuck that" even if I hadn't hated The Five Nightmares. But I did, so, moot point.

>Heh, that's a fair cop here. I never know what you've read or haven't
>read, as every time I think I understand your tastes you drop
>something like, say, an obscure Italian history of the Night Walkers
>or something into conversation, or genre fiction I'd never have pegged
>you on.

Just for the record, I didn't read The Night Walkers for sport, it was assigned in a class I was taking. I enjoyed it, and I think the benandanti legend is pretty cool overall, but it wasn't something I think I'd have picked up in a bookstore and thought, This is a topic I wish to know more about! Let me subscribe to your newsletter, Dr. Ginzburg. :)

>Short version: 'bout twenty years, a fellow named Gregory Maguire
>wrote Wicked a fictional biography of Elphaba Thropp, the
>Wicked Witch of the West, of Wizard of Oz fame.

The Wicked Witch of the West had a name? At the risk of sounding like a Star Trek fan, is that canon? (It's not going to affect my assessment either way, I'm just a bit curious, is all.)

>Also are the Bourne movies worth watching after the first? I'm an
>enormous fan of the novels, and... well, the first one was okay. I'm
>generally a fan of Matt Damon. It was entertaining and all, but... no
>Carlos?

In hindsight, I've always thought it was hilarious that the bĂȘte noir of Ludlum's original novel was Carlos the Jackal, whom later scholarship has revealed to have been the comically incompetent Walter Mitty of the terrorist world. It's like reading a novel from the '30s speculating that in the '40s, the European dictator who would end up crushing half the world under his disciplined, fanatical, superbly equipped, initially-unstoppable juggernaut of an army would be Mussolini.

In that respect, at least, The Bourne Identity would only conceivably have worked as a period piece set in the '70s, like the book, and A) that had already been attempted and B) it would still have been pretty friggin' silly.

>And I've heard vaguely
>that the franchise involved a lot of fridging of the women in Bourne's
>life, which is always a negative in my book.

As far as I know, there was only ever the one woman in Bourne's life in that sense, and she does get killed in the second film. That made me angry when it happened, though in retrospect Jason Bourne is very much the kind of person that sort of thing happens around. Maria's death in The Bourne Supremacy isn't quite as gratuitous as that, anyway. I mean, yes, it happens pretty much entirely for out-of-band reasons - because the filmmakers obviously assumed there would be no reason for Bourne to turn around and go after his pursuers if she was alive - but it's framed in a way that makes sense within the framework of the fictional universe the characters live in. (Rather more so than the canonical woman-in-refrigerator incident, which... uh, didn't. On any level.)

I'd have done it differently, but they probably didn't figure they had time for the montage where he takes her to the mountain retreat and helps her multiclass into Intrepid Badass in her own right. :)

Anyway. It's been a while since I watched Supremacy and I haven't seen Ultimatum, because I got that sick of Christopher Rouse's spastic music video editing style in Supremacy, but I haven't read or heard anything about Bourne having a love interest, or indeed time for one, in either one; and he's not actually in the fourth one, it's just called that because it's in that same universe.

I liked The Bourne Legacy, but then I like Jeremy Renner's Universal Action Everyman character. He has a way of being just utterly weary at the appropriate points in the rampant badassery that's missing from a lot of the more square-jawed face-punchers in the league. (He does it in The Avengers when Hawkeye crashes through the window and has to just lie there for a second going Aaaagh, fuck, no superpowers. :) One's mileage may vary.

There's a scene in Legacy where Renner's character, Aaron Cross, is in a room with another guy from the post-Treadstone super-soldier program he's part of, and he keeps doggedly trying to strike up a friendly conversation. It visibly unnerves the fuck out of the other agent that a) Cross is trying to engage with him on a human level and b) Cross is able to try to engage with him on a human level. That was about where I decided Legacy was going to be a likable film, in much the same way that my favorite parts of Identity are the bits where Bourne is, in spite of everything that's happened to him, completely human:

MARIA
You'd probably just forget about me anyway.

BOURNE
How could I forget about you? You're the only person I know.

--G.
"I guess you're not home."
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-04-14, 01:17 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
23. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #22
 
   LAST EDITED ON Feb-04-14 AT 01:19 AM (EST)
 
>I respect Fraction's work, I enjoyed the crap out of Five Fists of
>Science
, and I have it on reasonably good authority that he's a
>pretty hoopy frood to hang out with in person...
>
>... but I haaaaaated his run on Invincible Iron Man.

Okay, see, now I just don't know what to think, as it was the general awesomeness of his run on Invincible Iron Man that made me seek out everything he'd ever written. I enjoyed watching him turn Pepper Potts into a superhero in a way that didn't just make her Iron Maiden. I especially enjoyed watching Pepper Potts completely dominate Norman Osborne, and oh man, the way he managed to undo the character damage Civil War had done to Tony (who thought making Iron Man a supervillain was a good idea, I ask you) in a believable, interesting, and poignant way? I teared up.

To be fair, Five Nightmares is the weakest arc of that whole run.

>>Short version: 'bout twenty years, a fellow named Gregory Maguire
>>wrote Wicked a fictional biography of Elphaba Thropp, the
>>Wicked Witch of the West, of Wizard of Oz fame.
>
>The Wicked Witch of the West had a name? At the risk of
>sounding like a Star Trek fan, is that canon? (It's not going
>to affect my assessment either way, I'm just a bit curious, is all.)

It isn't canon in the sense that L. Frank Baum ever assigned her one, no. She's just "the Witch" in the novels, much as she is in the movie. I suppose you could consider what Maguire was doing fanfic, as he simply took a public domain property and wrote his own stories about it, a la Alan Moore in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

At this point, to run with your Star Trek comparison, the Wicked Witch of the West being named Elphaba Thropp is equivalent to Uhura's first name being Nyota1 or Spock being the first Vulcan in Starfleet; it isn't technically canon, but over the past two decades it's become an enormously solid part of the brand, especially since more people these days are familiar with Wicked than they are the actual novels it bastardizes.

She is also, obviously, not a crazy lady bent on getting her murder on in the direction of cherubic midwesterners in Wicked. I would not propose Anthy hang out with someone who cackles unironically, because Anthy? Has standards.

>In hindsight, I've always thought it was hilarious that the bĂȘte
>noir
of Ludlum's original novel was Carlos the Jackal, whom
>later scholarship has revealed to have been the comically incompetent
>Walter Mitty of the terrorist world. It's like reading a novel from
>the '30s speculating that in the '40s, the European dictator who would
>end up crushing half the world under his disciplined, fanatical,
>superbly equipped, initially-unstoppable juggernaut of an army would
>be Mussolini.

Also fun: Tom Clancy, who should have known better, featured Carlos' fanatical followers taking an amusement park hostage in order to force the French to release him as one of the major plot points of Rainbow Six.

I have also actually met people who did not know that Carlos was a real person. Is a real person, I guess. I do take your overall point, but, well... I was sort of expecting effective fictional Carlos, not Treadstone, who were a curious blend of "ruthlessly efficient" and "comically inept."

>>And I've heard vaguely
>>that the franchise involved a lot of fridging of the women in Bourne's
>>life, which is always a negative in my book.
>
>As far as I know, there was only ever the one woman in Bourne's
>life in that sense, and she does get killed in the second film. That
>made me angry when it happened, though in retrospect Jason Bourne is
>very much the kind of person that sort of thing happens around.

Huh. I'd heard there were actually a whole series of sympathy frags. That might just be one of those things one hears on the intertubes, I s'pose. And I am relieved for once that something is less hateful towards ladies than I had heard it was, usually it is the other way around!

>(Rather more so than the canonical
>woman-in-refrigerator incident, which... uh, didn't. On any level.)

I have had very long and barely civil exchanges with otherwise intelligent people who just do not get why what happened to Alexandra deWitt was awful on the multiple levels it was. I'll just leave it at that.

>Anyway. It's been a while since I watched Supremacy and I
>haven't seen Ultimatum, because I got that sick of
>Christopher Rouse's spastic music video editing style in

Yeah, another reason I never made time for the sequels.

>I liked The Bourne Legacy, but then I like Jeremy Renner's
>Universal Action Everyman character. He has a way of being just
>utterly weary at the appropriate points in the rampant
>badassery that's missing from a lot of the more square-jawed
>face-punchers in the league. (He does it in The Avengers when
>Hawkeye crashes through the window and has to just lie there for a
>second going Aaaagh, fuck, no superpowers. :) One's
>mileage may vary.

I heartily concur. Renner has great screen presence in general, which is more important for that sort of character than being an actual skilled thespian is, in my opinion. Not that Renner is unskilled, of course.

>There's a scene in Legacy where Renner's character, Aaron
>Cross, is in a room with another guy from the post-Treadstone
>super-soldier program he's part of, and he keeps doggedly trying to
>strike up a friendly conversation. It visibly unnerves the
>fuck out of the other agent that a) Cross is trying to engage
>with him on a human level and b) Cross is able to try to engage
>with him on a human level.

Well, you had my curiosity, and now you have my attention. The previews did not in any way indicate Legacy would be that sort of film; in fact, they gave the distinct impression that what we'd receive would be Jason Bourne, but now with less of that annoying humanity and more soulless revenge killin'.

Looks like I know what I'll be doing the next couple days.

>MARIA
>You'd probably just forget about me anyway.
>
>BOURNE
>How could I forget about you? You're the only person I know.

The ability to deliver lines like that and make it work is part of why I have such affection for Matt Damon. I don't think he's the bestest actor in the world or anything but when he decides "okay, I'm going to be super earnest now" it's very hard not to go "awwww."

-Merc
Keep Rat

1I am aware that in the Abramsverse this is her actual name, yes. I trust people get my point anyways.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-04-14, 02:29 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
24. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #23
 
   >a la Alan Moore in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

... only presumably with fewer characters being buggered to death by Mr. Hyde. What the fuck, Alan. This, this is why we can't have nice things.

>She is also, obviously, not a crazy lady bent on getting her murder on
>in the direction of cherubic midwesterners in Wicked.

In fairness, I'd be up for a little murder too if my name was Elphaba Thropp and I couldn't find a sympathetic judge.

>I have also actually met people who did not know that Carlos was a
>real person.

Maybe they're confusing him with the Jackal from Frederick Forsyth's The Day of the Jackal. Who is not Carlos the Jackal, and who is actually rather scary until the end of the book. (Amusingly, I am told Carlos ended up being "the Jackal" because the cops found a copy of The Day of the Jackal in his apartment when they raided it one day while he was out.)

>Is a real person, I guess.

Yes, astonishingly enough, he's still alive, in a prison somewhere. He somehow managed not to get killed by the cops or the other terrorists.

>The previews did not in any way indicate Legacy would be that sort of
>film; in fact, they gave the distinct impression that what we'd
>receive would be Jason Bourne, but now with less of that annoying
>humanity and more soulless revenge killin'.

Well, don't get me wrong, there's plenty of killin', but on Cross's part it's mostly of the Freeman's Mind "If you guys would stop shooting at me I wouldn't have to keep killing you! Give peace a chance! Or at least stand still!" variety.

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
BobSchroeck
Charter Member
2205 posts
Feb-04-14, 08:55 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail BobSchroeck Click to send private message to BobSchroeck Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
25. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #24
 
   >>She is also, obviously, not a crazy lady bent on getting her murder on
>>in the direction of cherubic midwesterners in Wicked.
>In fairness, I'd be up for a little murder too if my name was Elphaba
>Thropp and I couldn't find a sympathetic judge.

She has other issues -- one could very accurately describe her as the Embittered Idealist of the West -- that weigh more heavily on her mind.

On the meta level, her (first) name is constructed -- in homage to one of the stories about the origin of "OZ" -- from L. Frank Baum's initials.

-- Bob
-------------------
My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-05-14, 02:34 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
33. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #24
 
  
>Well, don't get me wrong, there's plenty of killin', but on Cross's
>part it's mostly of the Freeman's Mind "If you guys would stop
>shooting at me I wouldn't have to keep killing you!
>Give peace a chance! Or at least stand still!" variety.

Having now seen it... it isn't a cinematic tour de force or anything, but Renner was quite enjoyable in it, and it was, pleasingly, not at all what I was expecting. Somehow I got the impression it was going to involve a lot of blood-soaked mayhem, and instead I was left with the distinct feeling that what the writers really wanted to do was tell a cerebral story of what happens when intelligence services fail people on every possible level, but felt it was necessary to put in a few token gunfights and motorcycle chases. Aesthetically, it felt like Bourne Identity had a kid with the 2011 version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy.

Best moment; when Cross comes to the slow, awful, angry realization that Marta really, truly doesn't have any fucking clue what she's about. I laughed probably more than was appropriate. Yes, Aaron. She really was that naive.

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Peter Eng
Charter Member
1547 posts
Feb-04-14, 01:07 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Peter%20Eng Click to send private message to Peter%20Eng Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
29. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #20
 
   >>>3) Loki. No, not the dead guy. And not MCU Loki, either. I'm as big a
>>>member of the Cult of Hiddleston as the next guy, but there's not a
>>>good way to shoehorn him in anyway
>>
>>Sure there is. You just haven't thought of it. That's usually what
>>people mean when they say things like that. :)
>
>Well, this is true. And frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing that
>particular flavor of Loki show up, because more Loki is always better
>than less Loki, in my opinion. :)
>
>But it seems like the story of Loki the Supervillain has been told.
>

Let me know what you think of Loki: Agent of Asgard when it comes out.

>
>>>-Kate Bishop and Clint Barton. The Matt Fraction versions only,
>>>please.
>>
>>...a former Earthforce EOD technician who was
>>converted into a super-secret sleeper agent against his will, broke
>>free of his sinister handlers, and then found the solace his tortured
>>soul craved in the structure and method of the ancient, long-neglected
>>archery form practiced by the Grammaton Clerics of the Order of St.
>>Ignatius before the invention of firearms and the gun kata. I see no
>>reason to walk that back. :)
>
>... no. No, there wouldn't be, would there? Not sure that's toppable.
>

All you need then is his apprentice - probably one of New Avalon's nouveau riche who actually reinvented some of the early archery forms - and there you go!

Peter Eng
--
Insert humorous comment here.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-04-14, 03:40 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
31. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #29
 
  
>Let me know what you think of Loki: Agent of Asgard when it
>comes out.

You know, I gotta confess, I sort of lost track of things after Loki arranged to murder his own reincarnated child self from beyond the grave in order to replace him. I mean, yes, that was awesome, but I had me some attachments to Kid Loki and that sort of left me emotionally wrung out.

A quick check of various internet resources apparently reveals that Loki did not, in fact, immediately resume being a self-destructive douchebag. So with him headlining a new series, maybe it is time to catch back up.

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
junipermoderator
Charter Member
513 posts
Feb-04-14, 04:12 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail juniper Click to send private message to juniper Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
32. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #18
 
   >>2) Elphaba Thropp. Yes. That Elphaba Thropp.
>
>You say that - as people so often do these days - as if I ought to
>know what you are talking about...
>
>>1) Elsa the Snow Queen.
>
>... and again.

S'ok, Gryph, if they fit into something we're working on, I'll let you know. They're already taking up space in my head, they don't need to occupy yours right now. ;)


Juniper
Rampaging Karateka Crypto-Kwavu'b Contributing Editor (and Moderator)
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited
Because why be ordinary in your choice of hobbies?


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-10-14, 04:17 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
46. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #18
 
   LAST EDITED ON Feb-10-14 AT 04:20 PM (EST)
 
> a former Earthforce EOD technician who was
>converted into a super-secret sleeper agent against his will, broke
>free of his sinister handlers, and then found the solace his tortured
>soul craved in the structure and method of the ancient, long-neglected
>archery form practiced by the Grammaton Clerics of the Order of St.
>Ignatius before the invention of firearms and the gun kata.

Did he spend a year hunting witches after getting out of the monastery, though? :)

And then there was that time he got elected the Mayor of Camden. He's lived an interesting life.

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-10-14, 04:27 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
47. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #46
 
   >> a former Earthforce EOD technician who was
>>converted into a super-secret sleeper agent against his will, broke
>>free of his sinister handlers, and then found the solace his tortured
>>soul craved in the structure and method of the ancient, long-neglected
>>archery form practiced by the Grammaton Clerics of the Order of St.
>>Ignatius before the invention of firearms and the gun kata.
>
>Did he spend a year hunting witches after getting out of the
>monastery, though?

They don't like to talk about that. It's like the time Logan was stuck on Planet Renfaire for a year and had to make a living as a vampire hunter. It's just best not to ask.

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
BobSchroeck
Charter Member
2205 posts
Feb-10-14, 04:40 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail BobSchroeck Click to send private message to BobSchroeck Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
48. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #47
 
   >They don't like to talk about that. It's like the time Logan was
>stuck on Planet Renfaire for a year and had to make a living as a
>vampire hunter. It's just best not to ask.

That's the planet they also call "Gramarye", isn't it?

-- Bob
<grinning>
-------------------
My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Verbena
Charter Member
816 posts
Feb-12-14, 03:07 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Verbena Click to send private message to Verbena Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
54. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #48
 
   >>They don't like to talk about that. It's like the time Logan was
>>stuck on Planet Renfaire for a year and had to make a living as a
>>vampire hunter. It's just best not to ask.
>
>That's the planet they also call "Gramarye", isn't it?

...So what you're saying is Logan was a vampire hunter in spite of himself. (Hee!)

--------

this world created by the
hands of the gods
everything is false
everything is a LIE
the final days have come
now
let everything be destroyed

--mu


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ebony14
Member since Jul-11-11
437 posts
Feb-12-14, 09:00 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail ebony14 Click to send private message to ebony14 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
51. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #47
 
   >They don't like to talk about that. It's like the time Logan was
>stuck on Planet Renfaire for a year and had to make a living as a
>vampire hunter. It's just best not to ask.
>

He did get a pretty spiffy hat out of the deal, though.

Seriously, though, I honestly expected the huge walking ham that was Frankenstein's monster in that film to break out with "Putting on the Ritz." He was that over the top.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Gryphonadmin
Charter Member
19684 posts
Feb-12-14, 11:59 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail Gryphon Click to send private message to Gryphon Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
52. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #51
 
   >Seriously, though, I honestly expected the huge walking ham
>that was Frankenstein's monster in that film to break out with
>"Putting on the Ritz." He was that over the top.

Nobody does that number better than Adam at the annual BPRD Questionable Talent Show.

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
zgryphon at that email service Google has
Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ebony14
Member since Jul-11-11
437 posts
Feb-12-14, 01:48 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail ebony14 Click to send private message to ebony14 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
53. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #52
 
   >>Seriously, though, I honestly expected the huge walking ham
>>that was Frankenstein's monster in that film to break out with
>>"Putting on the Ritz." He was that over the top.

>
>Nobody does that number better than Adam at the annual BPRD
>Questionable Talent Show.
>

Would that be where Abe Sapien breaks out his encyclopedic knowledge of Gilbert & Sullivan? Or have they classified that as a Weapon of Mass Distortion and only used it for interrogating spooks, spectres (not the Spectre; Jim Corrigan may actually like G&S), and assorted poltergeists? :)

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
mdg1
Member since Aug-25-04
1199 posts
Feb-12-14, 03:08 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail mdg1 Click to send private message to mdg1 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
55. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #53
 
   >Would that be where Abe Sapien breaks out his encyclopedic knowledge
>of Gilbert & Sullivan? Or have they classified that as a Weapon of
>Mass Distortion and only used it for interrogating spooks, spectres
>(not the Spectre; Jim Corrigan may actually like G&S), and assorted
>poltergeists? :)

Nah, it was banned after his musical duel with Solus Mordin.

Mario


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
ebony14
Member since Jul-11-11
437 posts
Feb-12-14, 04:53 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail ebony14 Click to send private message to ebony14 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
56. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #55
 
   >>Would that be where Abe Sapien breaks out his encyclopedic knowledge
>>of Gilbert & Sullivan? Or have they classified that as a Weapon of
>>Mass Distortion and only used it for interrogating spooks, spectres
>>(not the Spectre; Jim Corrigan may actually like G&S), and assorted
>>poltergeists? :)
>
>Nah, it was banned after his musical duel with Solus Mordin.

Point to you, sir. Get 10 and you get a free sandwich.

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mephronmoderator
Charter Member
1789 posts
Feb-04-14, 11:11 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mephron Click to send private message to Mephron Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list Click to send message via AOL IM  
27. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #14
 
  
> In particular, I'd like to see that
>Leverage story finally see the light of day, or some more stuff
>with the Jedi Academy Harry Potter Cast.

If it helps, my bride and I have been watching Leverage and I think the idea is back. Along with another team of thieves showing up, which is why it's called "The Triplicate Caper"...

A scene involves Max, Parker and *redacted* hanging on harnesses from ceiling vents doing the "okay who goes first" look thing as they hang over the McGuffin.

--
Geoff Depew - Darth Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support.
"And Remember! Google is your Friend!!"


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
mdg1
Member since Aug-25-04
1199 posts
Feb-04-14, 01:06 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail mdg1 Click to send private message to mdg1 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
28. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #27
 
   >A scene involves Max, Parker and *redacted* hanging on harnesses from
>ceiling vents doing the "okay who goes first" look thing as they hang
>over the McGuffin.

I can think of three candidates off the top of my head:

Lupin (of course)
Kaito Kid
Sorata Muon (who you've already used)

Bizarrely, I could also see Kid Loki doing it. :)

Mario


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
jonathanlennox
Charter Member
237 posts
Feb-04-14, 01:29 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail jonathanlennox Click to send private message to jonathanlennox Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
30. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #27
 
   >If it helps, my bride and I have been watching Leverage and I think
>the idea is back. Along with another team of thieves showing up, which
>is why it's called "The Triplicate Caper"...
>
>A scene involves Max, Parker and *redacted* hanging on harnesses from
>ceiling vents doing the "okay who goes first" look thing as they hang
>over the McGuffin.

If it's called "The Triplicate Caper", I'm going to guess Luorno.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
The Traitor
Member since Feb-24-09
945 posts
Feb-05-14, 06:24 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail The%20Traitor Click to send private message to The%20Traitor Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
34. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #27
 
   If you like Leverage, you'll probably like Hustle a lot too, Leverage being basically US!Hustle.

Heh, now I'm imagining Mickey Bricks conning a high-ranking member of the Psi Corps out of their personal fortune, because if anyone can pull a con job on a telepath, it's that guy. =]

---
"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
SpottedKitty
Member since Jun-15-04
519 posts
Feb-05-14, 10:38 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail SpottedKitty Click to send private message to SpottedKitty Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
35. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #34
 
   >Heh, now I'm imagining Mickey Bricks conning a high-ranking member of
>the Psi Corps out of their personal fortune, because if anyone can
>pull a con job on a telepath, it's that guy. =]

Bonus points for "borrowing" some of our favourite lines from the Garibaldi/Bester double act...?

--
Unable to save the day: File is read-only.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JeanneHedge
Charter Member
933 posts
Feb-06-14, 06:30 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail JeanneHedge Click to send private message to JeanneHedge Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
42. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #14
 
   >2) Elphaba Thropp. Yes. That Elphaba Thropp. Book or musical flavor,
>I'm not picky.
>
>Anthy's witchery is coming along nicely these days, but she could
>probably use some additional mentoring/peer review, and the Wicked
>Witch of the West is just about the gold standard for witching it up,
>really. I mean, come on. The Shire of all places made it into
>UF, Oz isn't that much a stretch, especially since Ace is hanging
>around somewhere. Or hell, she could just be an awesome Orion lady.
>I'm pretty easy.

While I do like Elphaba, if more witches/sorcerers were to be introduced, I'd like to see the gang from Silent Mobius

>And topping the list...
>
>1) Elsa the Snow Queen.
>
>I feel no need whatsoever to justify my love for Elsa. To do so would
>be to cheapen it. :)

Because she has the same voice as Elphaba, her big number is of a similar theme to Defying Gravity, and she's really cool. :)

Jeanne


Jeanne Hedge
http://www.jhedge.com
"Never give up, never surrender!"


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
trboturtle2
Member since Jul-4-09
156 posts
Feb-06-14, 00:24 AM (EDT)
Click to EMail trboturtle2 Click to send private message to trboturtle2 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list Click to send message via AOL IM  
36. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   While it's a great thread, what about those characters who have already been introduced, who have potential, but haven't had any screen time yet? Lets see some of them take center stage for a story or two....

Craig

-----------------------------
Writer for BattleCorps.com
and
Battletech/Co-author of
Outcast Ops:
African Firestorm, Outcast
Ops: Red
Ice, Outcast Ops: Watchlist,
and the soon to be released
Outcast Ops: Shadow
Government. All around
semi-nice guy! Really!!


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
junipermoderator
Charter Member
513 posts
Feb-06-14, 01:05 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail juniper Click to send private message to juniper Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
37. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #36
 
   >While it's a great thread, what about those characters who have
>already been introduced, who have potential, but haven't had any
>screen time yet? Lets see some of them take center stage for a story
>or two....

...such as?


Juniper
Rampaging Karateka Crypto-Kwavu'b Contributing Editor (and Moderator)
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited
Because why be ordinary in your choice of hobbies?


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
JeanneHedge
Charter Member
933 posts
Feb-06-14, 06:26 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail JeanneHedge Click to send private message to JeanneHedge Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
40. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #36
 
   >While it's a great thread, what about those characters who have
>already been introduced, who have potential, but haven't had any
>screen time yet? Lets see some of them take center stage for a story
>or two....

How do you introduce a character but not give them any screen time?

Jeanne


Jeanne Hedge
http://www.jhedge.com
"Never give up, never surrender!"


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
trboturtle2
Member since Jul-4-09
156 posts
Feb-06-14, 08:26 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail trboturtle2 Click to send private message to trboturtle2 Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list Click to send message via AOL IM  
43. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #40
 
   Now you want me to go back through all the EPU stuff and find these characters.....OKay! Any excuse to read everything all over again!! :)

Craig

-----------------------------
Writer for BattleCorps.com
and
Battletech/Co-author of
Outcast Ops:
African Firestorm, Outcast
Ops: Red
Ice, Outcast Ops: Watchlist,
and the soon to be released
Outcast Ops: Shadow
Government. All around
semi-nice guy! Really!!


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Mercutio
Member since May-26-13
939 posts
Feb-06-14, 09:49 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Mercutio Click to send private message to Mercutio Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
44. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #40
 
  
>How do you introduce a character but not give them any screen time?

There are a few of them, but it's a tiny number. The aforementioned Leverage crew are one example; they exist only in previews so far.

The other ones I can think of are mostly guys from the Featured Documents section. I don't think the Doctors Jones have ever actually shown up, for example, nor has much of Team Deadpool.

-Merc
Keep Rat


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Proginoskes
Member since Dec-3-09
149 posts
Feb-09-14, 02:49 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Proginoskes Click to send private message to Proginoskes Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
45. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   While we're wishing to see briefly-featured and long-forgotten characters, I'm curious about what Kevin Tefft and his circle of mystically-inclined Wedge Rats has gotten up to over the years. I wonder especially about this "Paul", who seems to be DIFFERENT, all-caps obligatory.


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
McFortner
Charter Member
483 posts
Feb-10-14, 04:49 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail McFortner Click to send private message to McFortner Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list Click to send message via ICQ  
49. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   I can't believe I didn't think of them earlier, but I'd love to see Kang, Kor, and Koloth. They are my favorite Klingons.

Michael

Michael C. Fortner
"Maxim 37: There is no such thing as "overkill".
There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top
Verbena
Charter Member
816 posts
Feb-10-14, 04:56 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail Verbena Click to send private message to Verbena Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
50. "RE: Characters you'd love to see in NF"
In response to message #0
 
   After having read Twilight again for the first time in a long time, I find myself wondering more and more about Eris, Teleute, and Kaguya. The former two especially, since they have more import to the story overall, but Kaguya only showed up in that one scene and I know even less of her than the other two.


--------

this world created by the
hands of the gods
everything is false
everything is a LIE
the final days have come
now
let everything be destroyed

--mu


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

Conferences | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

[ YUM ] [ BIG ] [ ??!? ] [ RANT ] [ GNDN ] [ STORE ] [ FORUM ] GOTW ] [ VAULT ]

version 3.3 © 2001
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited
Benjamin D. Hutchins
E P U (Colour)