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Mercutio
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4. "RE: Irresponsible Speculation"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-26-14 AT 04:10 AM (EDT)
 
>My point? I don't think anybody outside of Muspelheim knows when
>Molag Bal bit it. What they do know is that he was alive in 1865,
>then Akio moved in to Molag's old castle in 2406.

I'm pretty sure that Akio had a new castle built rather than moving into Coldharbour, but not 100% sure.

>Consider this for a moment. Is there any way that Jack would pound
>somebody as kick-ass as Molag Bal and not mention it while sitting
>around in hyperspace? It doesn't fit her personality. And there's no
>way that Shepard would have failed to note that in her after-action
>report, even if she had to invent a category for it in her report.

Assuming a reasonable level of equivalence to the actual game, during her time on Nirn Jack killed a shit-ton of dragons, an even shit-tonner of vampires, a giant evil dragon god that was out to destroy Nirn, wandered through... three? I think?... alternate dimensions, read at least one Elder Scroll, did a whole bunch of errands for various and sundry gods and demons, trained with the Greybeards, fought an insane dragon cult, took part in a civil war, and judging by her disdain for the Mede Empire, probably pissed off both the first and second most powerful polities on Nirn, and amassed a collection of magically endowed weapons and armor that would make even Dannen Ironbridge go "Damn, girl."

So murdering someone like Molag Bal, while that would be a big deal for most people, for Jack, that's like Tuesday. She has a lot of stories to tell, that's only one of them. Maybe it comes up when Shepard is around, and maybe it don't.

And even if it does come up when Shepard is around, despite spending a lot of time in Valhalla, the significance of it might not be apparent to her. The Duke of Sheol had a lot of names. Molag Bal was one of them. Hunson Abadeer was another. There are probably a whole lot more. He might not have been known as "Molag Bal" in Asgard, in the same way that I imagine that Akio is rather better known as Lord Trigon around there as well.

And even assuming that Molag Bal was in fact known as Molag Bal in Asgard... Shepard is no doubt a well-informed lady, but she doesn't strike me as the kind of person who would have exhaustive knowledge about every single Duke of Muspelheim, especially ones she is unlikely to ever encounter.

So that means that it is entirely possible that all Shepard knows is that this one time, Jack told her a story about this demon lord she murdered. Details are hazy, because Jack also has a story about this vampire lord she murdered, and that dragon lord she murdered, and all those lesser demons she murdered, and, listen, if she wrote up a complete report on everyone Jack ever bragged about murdering she'd get nothing else done ever.

This is, of course, all speculation on my part, but I feel like my reasoning holds up well.

-Merc
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 Irresponsible Speculation [View All] Mercutio Mar-25-14 TOP
   RE: Irresponsible Speculation Droken Mar-25-14 1
      RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Mar-25-14 2
   RE: Irresponsible Speculation Peter Eng Mar-26-14 3
     RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Mar-26-14 4
          RE: Irresponsible Speculation Gryphonadmin Apr-07-14 5
              RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Apr-07-14 6
                  RE: Irresponsible Speculation Gryphonadmin Apr-07-14 7
                      RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Apr-07-14 8
                          RE: Irresponsible Speculation Gryphonadmin Apr-07-14 9
                              RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Apr-07-14 11
                                  RE: Irresponsible Speculation CdrMike Apr-08-14 12
                                      RE: Irresponsible Speculation Gryphonadmin Apr-08-14 13
                                          RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Apr-08-14 14
                          RE: Irresponsible Speculation Blackbird Apr-08-14 15
                              RE: Irresponsible Speculation laudre Apr-08-14 16
                              RE: Irresponsible Speculation CdrMike Apr-08-14 17
                                  RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Apr-08-14 18
                                      RE: Irresponsible Speculation CdrMike Apr-09-14 19
                                          RE: Irresponsible Speculation Mercutio Apr-09-14 20
                                              RE: Irresponsible Speculation pjmoyermoderator Apr-09-14 21
                          RE: Irresponsible Speculation starless Apr-09-14 22
                  RE: Irresponsible Speculation CdrMike Apr-07-14 10


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