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14. "RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd"
In response to message #11
 
   >> And it's also another reason to
>>stay the Fucking Hell Away from anything that's jumping on the
>>Internet of Things bandwagon (where they can tell you've installed a
>>replacement part and can automatically dispatch the guy with the
>>dongle before you even realize that the device won't work until he
>>arrives). No thanks, I'm perfectly happy with my fridge just beeping
>>annoyingly when it's left open, versus sending me emails and texts to
>>complain.
>
>You know, I have no specific problem with the basic concept of the
>Internet of Things or smart devices. I wouldn't pay a premium for it
>but I wouldn't necessarily mind a fridge that tells me "don't drink
>that milk, buddy, you'll regret it" or "my ice maker is about to fail
>catastrophically" or even something more outre like "someone opened me
>four times while you were at work. Do you have kids? I hope you have
>kids. Or smart pets. Otherwise some creepy shit is going on."
>
>But the thing is, the fridge would need to tell me that. I own
>the fridge. I am the fridgemaster! It reports to me and only to me.
>Not to its manufacturers. Not to whatever firm the manufacturers
>outsourced the service to. Me.
>
>Most IoC stuff seems to want to report to a central server. I'm not
>enough of a wirehead to know the extent to which this is necessary (in
>that it isn't possible or economical to make every single device a
>completely standalone unit) or to what extent it isn't and they just
>want all my data for themselves.

Most of it is ease and cost - it's easier to make it happen with a central server versus setting it up to make it easy to do it standalone. Plus the date. Plus there seems to be an increasing flirtation with the idea of additional "forcing obsolescence" with software already - look at the past 5-10 years of trying to bolt on online requirements for video games that don't need to have it. And we've already had at least 3 public shutdowns of servers involved in IOT that has effectively bricked devices, starting with the thermostat company that Google bought.

Incidentally, I'd love for my fridge to be able to tell me if I've left something in it too long, the problem is that even what I know about the current state of Fridge IOT is that they actually don't really do that, at least not without a hell of a lot of help that would be better handled with a whiteboard mounted next to the fridge where you keep track of when you put things in the fridge. And they come with central server requirements anyway, which is currently a non-starter in this house, even without the security problems that have been continually cropping up.





Jeffrey 'JFerio' Crouch
'It'll be all right... I think.' - Nene Romanova



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   RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd JFerio Apr-20-17 1
      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd MoonEyes Apr-21-17 2
          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd JFerio Apr-21-17 3
              RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Gryphonadmin Apr-21-17 4
      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Gryphonadmin Apr-21-17 5
      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Mercutio Apr-21-17 6
          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd MoonEyes Apr-21-17 7
              RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Peter Eng Apr-21-17 8
                  RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd MoonEyes Apr-22-17 13
                      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Star Ranger4 May-03-17 33
                          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd MoonEyes May-03-17 35
              RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Mercutio Apr-21-17 9
                  RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd JFerio Apr-22-17 10
                      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Mercutio Apr-22-17 11
                         RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd JFerio Apr-22-17 14
                  RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd MoonEyes Apr-22-17 12
                      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Mercutio Apr-22-17 15
                          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd JFerio Apr-22-17 16
                              RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd MuninsFire Apr-24-17 25
                      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd StClair Apr-25-17 26
                          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd MoonEyes Apr-25-17 27
                          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Gryphonadmin Apr-25-17 28
                              RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Mercutio Apr-26-17 29
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                                      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Mercutio Apr-26-17 31
                                          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Star Ranger4 May-03-17 34
   RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Gryphonadmin Apr-22-17 17
      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd CdrMike Apr-22-17 18
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              RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Croaker May-01-17 32
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      RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd Gryphonadmin Apr-23-17 21
          RE: Things You Didn't Know About ZC, cont'd NHO Apr-23-17 22
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