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14. "RE: Exodus 5:1"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-16 AT 02:52 PM (EST)
 
>> /* Cavo
>> "Hold Your Ground"
>> Thick as Thieves (2012) */
>
>Once again Eyrie introduces me to new nifty music I'd never heard of
>before. Thanks!

For cross-reference purposes, the title track on that album is the same "Thick as Thieves" that is Laura Kinney's de facto theme music over in UF. Which would also have made a good opening for the original NXE if it had existed back then, particularly when all the shit in the fan in late season 2/early season 3:

We'll never fall in line
And walk the roads you followed
We are the ones who rise
Just open up your eyes
Fight the hand that feeds you lies
It's time we make it right
Don't need a reason tonight
So sick of waiting for something to change my life

>So I had to google that, not being quite up to speed on whatever the
>hell a "Ubaid" is. That is... exceedingly interesting, especially
>given some of the associated imagery and the reappearance of a certain
>enemy type in XCOM.

I suspect DJ and Asuka spent some time during the inter-series period over in that part of the world, preventing people from blowing up precious antiquities (possibly by blowing them up, in some instances).

>I have to admit I never did quite understand the whole Geo-Front
>concept. I suspect it's because I've never actually watched the
>original Evangelion show, so I'm lacking visuals that the text
>(unconsciously) assumes I have.

Basically, Worcester-3 (and Tokyo-3 in the original, come to that) was built on top of a gigantic artificial cave that had another city in it. When a Really Serious Emergency occurred on the surface (which happened... a lot), most of the major buildings of the above-ground city would retract until they were flush with the ground (whereupon they would become a sort of Revolutionary Girl Utena hanging castle above the underground one), and thus be mostly not destroyed by the giant monster combat going on up above.

This is not perhaps terribly efficient, but it's at least a bit less of a handwave than, for instance, King of Braves Gaogaigar's Dividing Driver to explain why the city is mostly not destroyed every week. :)

>> "Central, this is Big Sky. We are inbound with the goodies—
>> requesting landing clearance on Pad One."
>> Another man's voice, closer to a baritone, replied with a
>> carefully precise Midwestern accent, "Copy, Voodoo 3-1. Pad
>> One approach confirmed—we'll see you on the ground."
>
>Is there some method to the callsigns? Central makes rather obvious
>sense, as does Big Sky (though in this context I'd think that'd be
>more appropriate for the Antonov transports), but where does "Voodoo
>3-1" come from?

The Skyranger in XCOM: Enemy {Unknown|Within} always has the callsign Voodoo 3-1, and its pilot identifies himself as "Big Sky" in comm traffic. The exact callsign convention XCOM uses is not entirely clear, but it's worth noting that in the cutscene where a Raven interceptor shoots down a UFO for the first time, Bradford congratulates the Raven in question on the kill and addresses it as Voodoo 3-7.

My assumption has been that Voodoo 3 is a group code for the aircraft based out of XCOM HQ (though why the Interceptor is 3-7 I don't know, since the base can only ever have five aircraft, the Skyranger and up to four interceptors, in it). I don't believe we ever hear any of the interceptors assigned to the other bases addressed by callsign in the game, so it's unclear whether they're, for instance, "Voodoo {some other number}-x", or something else altogether. The game's designers probably didn't spend that much time developing it; "Voodoo three one" sounds cool on the radio, and that's most likely all that really mattered to them. :)

I can't remember what callsign the Firestorms (reverse-engineered UFOs which replace the Ravens as XCOM's go-to interceptors later in the game) get, if it's even mentioned. Been a while since I played that deep into the game.

>I like it, even if it's just copied verbatim from the games, but it's
>just something I've always wondered about. Googling "call signs" and
>other such things hasn't helped, but I can't help but feel there's an
>underlying scheme here. Later on "Menace 1-4" is used, which just
>reinforces that notion.

Again, this is something adapted from the games. The Skyranger in XCOM 2 is always called Menace 1-5 in the radio chatter (pilot's callsign "Firebrand", who appears in this story as DJ's Antonov pilot), and Central and Firebrand both refer to the squad as "Menace" from time to time. In this context, Menace 1-4 and Menace 1-5 are the An-602s carrying EVA-01 and EVA-02 respectively; if there is a Menace 1-1 through Menace 1-3, they're probably the older An-411 aircraft we didn't see in this episode.

>Awww. I mean, that's still much better than a poke in the eye, but
>see above re: MiB!Asuka.

I shall take it under advisement. :)

>> "Lord Langley-Croft; Lady Langley-Croft," said the new
>> arrival cordially, offering a hand. "Special Agent Phil
>> Coulson, MIB Southwestern US. Welcome to Fort Alcatraz."
>
>Oh you glorious bastards.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should note here that while at least one of my colleagues has, I haven't actually watched Agents of SHIELD past the first episode. My esteem for Special Agent Coulson is derived entirely from his appearances in the first two Iron Man films, Thor, and The Avengers. Which is enough, really, 'cause... Phil Coulson, man.

>> Like Jon, she looked tired, her already normally pale
>> face a bit drawn. She was also, the Langley-Crofts were
>> mildly alarmed to see, injured; her right arm was
>> bandaged from wrist to elbow and suspended in a sling,
>> her left knee bound up in an Ace bandage.
>
>Hi Rei! Is it some cosmic rule that you must start out every
>adventure injured?

It's in her contract. Got to keep the bandage-freak fandom happy.

(Seriously, what is up with that?)

>(Also: isn't she a fully-vested angel now? Given how many times the
>bad guys made use of the Song of Restoration, you'd think she'd be
>able to lean on it once in a while.)

Rei's funny about celestial stuff. It's like she feels like it's cheating. She spent long enough as a strictly corporeal being that she still feels more at home that way, bumps and all.

Mind you, if she'd been really seriously hurt, I'm sure she'd have made an exception, but, meh, a bunged-up arm and sprained knee? She's had worse.

>> The imminent, immanent eschaton
>> hadn't even made that list.
>
>There are times I suspect you guys engage in clever wordplay for the
>sake of clever wordplay. Not that I'm complaining!
>
>It took me a few to parse that successfully, though.

It's an Illuminatus! reference; they talk about "immanentizing the eschaton" a lot in that.

>I'm hoping this gets explored a bit more, just because I'm curious.
>Is it because Jon is half-demon and the Evas are based on angels?

Unlikely to be that, precisely; after all, Michael is not only an Archangel but an Archangel particularly devoted to the kicking of demon ass, and they got along fine. Something else in play there. We'll come back to it.

>> He was interrupted then, as just when he reached point
>> blank range, AE-02 hauled off and clobbered him with the
>> wreckage of the Leopard 2 tank it had been holding when
>> the two EVAs arrived.
>
>Now, I don't *know* that this is the case, but I'm picturing AE-02
>holding the tank by the cannon barrel and just thwacking the EVA with
>it.
>
>Like a kaiju-scale El Kabong.

Pretty much, yeah. (Even though I'm pretty sure that wouldn't actually work, as I sincerely doubt a tank's gun barrel could support the weight of the whole tank, and most tanks' turrets aren't even really attached to the hull. Poetic license. :)

>> "Do we have any information as to who their pilots
>> are?" asked the woman seated to the chairman's right.
>
>You're really not impressing me with your intelligence (both senses of
>the word), Shadowy Figures.

Well, there are six children listed in the Marduk Report, plus at least two, maybe three, possible EVA pilots not categorized by said report but documented in other information to come out of the Halifax Incident. The chairman is right in noting that the Langley-Crofts are the most probable operators for those particular two units, and an analysis of their combat behavior would tend to reinforce that probability, but they don't really know.

(Although he doesn't do them the courtesy of recognizing that they're married, but that might have been a deliberate slight.)

>I'm super-excited about this (if that wasn't clear already). One
>thing I was a bit letdown by? I'd grown to love the post-credits
>context-less teaser bits back in the NXE days. As I scrolled through
>the credits I was looking forward to that, and... it wasn't there.
>Minor sadness.

Huh. I clean forgot about that. For that matter, it had slipped my mind that the original series didn't really have ending credits.

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