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"Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
 
   That's what they say. Unfortunately, sometime in the next few weeks, I may not have a choice.

Since Monday, I've had a meeting with my boss and his boss on my calendar for today; when it appeared there and I asked about it, my boss said oh, we'll be talking about the new team setup for the work on the Second Edition of $PRODUCT (which is coming up this summer).

Fair enough, I thought; they're reorganizing the processes all the time, and a new edition of a major product would be the prime time to go to that well again. I don't much like it when they rearrange all the deck chairs, but this too shall pass.

Today, I arrived for the meeting to find that, in addition to my boss and his boss, they'd invited one of the guys from HR. Hmm.

At which point my boss's boss, reading from a prepared statement like some kind of enscandaled congressman, informed me without a pause that:

1) The new process for the Second Edition will be, in essence, to outsource it to (literally) India.

2) That being the case, they won't need anyone who does the things I do.

3) As of June 24 if not earlier, my position will be replaced by a new one, in the same slot on the org chart, the inhabitant of which will be a Project Coordinator interfacing with the team of Indians who will have r eplaced me.

4) I'm free to apply for that position—via the job posting on the company website, like any rando off the street. There's no internal hiring process nor any advantage to already being an employee.

4a) I can also apply for any other opening in the company I feel I'm qualified for, with the same caveat.

5) If I don't, or I don't get it, I'll be done on June 24—unless they hire someone for the new position before then, in which case I'm gone instantly.

6) At that point, I'll get three weeks' severance pay, if I'm deemed to have remained Positive and Professional about the whole business during my dead-man-walking period. If I'm not, I get nothing.

6a) Presumably, if any of them have so much free time they google me to see what I might be saying outside of work, and they find their way in here, they won't consider this positive or professional, but, well, fuck it.

And... that was it. No consideration for four years of service, three of them spent doing whatever bizarre, not-what-I-was-hired-for nonsense they asked of me; no explanation why this time the whole position's been revamped under me is so different from the previous ones that I'm not fit to stay in it; not the slightest whiff of awareness of how ridiculous it is for a non-profit to be outsourcing shit to India in the first place.

Y'know, when I was a kid, I didn't get why unions were still a thing. They seemed no longer necessary—a good idea whose time had passed. I didn't realize then that I'd been born toward the end of a period of stability and progress that was anomalous in human history, so I grew up thinking it was normal.

It wasn't, and now that it's ending I'm finding it very difficult to get to grips with the return to what has been, superior tech level notwithstanding, much more customarily the human condition throughout history: oligarchy, sectionalism, superstition, intolerance, cruelty without consequence, an all-hands race to the bottom and devil take the hindmost.

Or possibly I'm just pissed off, and up too late, and frustrated that I can't do the Culturally Idiomatic Thing at a time like this and get hog-bladdering drunk.

--G.
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Don't Give Up Your Day Job [View All] Gryphonadmin May-24-19 TOP
  RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job MuninsFire May-24-19 1
  RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Offsides May-28-19 2
  RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job eriktown Jun-01-19 3
     RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Gryphonadmin Jun-01-19 4
  RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Gryphonadmin Jun-13-19 5
     RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Vorticity Jun-14-19 6
         RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Gryphonadmin Jun-14-19 7
     RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Gryphonadmin Jun-14-19 8
         RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Peter Eng Jun-15-19 9
         RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job McFortner Jun-15-19 10
             RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job Gryphonadmin Jun-15-19 11
                 RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job McFortner Jun-15-19 12

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MuninsFire
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1. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   My condolences. I just left a day job I didn't want to leave myself - in this case, it was a bad manager driving me out to reinforce her bailiwick - and a friend of mine just learned that she needs to find a new job -sooner- rather'n later for 'company's imminent existential failure' reasons, so I guess it's kinda going around at the moment.

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea


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2. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   Unfortunately, very few companies have any loyalty to their employees anymore, and seemingly fewer of them have any concept of what their employees are actually worth to them...

Sorry to hear this is happening to you, I hope one way or another you find a decent replacement for your job (screw them on finding a decent replacement for you).

Offsides

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3. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   This happened to me right out of my industry because it was over and over. Just zonked from one doomed project to the next. I no longer have a career.


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Gryphonadmin
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4. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   >This happened to me right out of my industry because it was over and
>over. Just zonked from one doomed project to the next. I no longer
>have a career.

Yeah, I did that already in 2001, so I was a little surprised to find myself doing it again 18 years later in textbook publishing of all industries.

--G.
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5. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   Remember when they said I could apply for other openings in the company? Just had the manager of one of the other teams basically admit that that's a waste of time. I applied for an opening on his team, and he emailed me saying that since his hiring decisions go through my current grandboss, he won't be able to offer it to me, sorry. This is a tacit acknowledgement that the fix is in; my "layoff" is really a disguised firing, and the team leads have been warned not to try and prevent it.

I wish I could say I'm as shocked as I am hurt and pissed off by this revelation, but I'm not. This guy has been gunning for me since before last summer's relapse. He's probably just been waiting until it's been long enough since my FMLA leave for same that he won't get in Dutch with the Department of Labor.

--G.
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6. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   Sorry to hear that, Gryph.

I'm not really sure what kind of work you're interested in these days. But if you're in the market for remote software development or graphic design work, my company is on something of a hiring spree. If you're interested please let me know. I've successfully recommended other devs before.

Putting in a word for this kind of thing is the least I can do. You're responsible for getting me my own job in the first place, rather indirectly. But take out the Symphony of the Sword and the probability distribution of that whole chain of events collapses.


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Gryphonadmin
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7. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   >I'm not really sure what kind of work you're interested in these days.
> But if you're in the market for remote software development or
>graphic design work, my company is on something of a hiring spree. If
>you're interested please let me know. I've successfully recommended
>other devs before.

Well, software development is well outside my skill set, but I do have some training in graphic design. No proper experience, though.

--G.
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Gryphonadmin
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8. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jun-14-19 AT 10:27 PM (EDT)
 
>This is a tacit acknowledgement that the fix is in; my
>"layoff" is really a disguised firing, and the team leads have been
>warned not to try and prevent it.

Quick update on this: I told said manager that wasn't what boss-of-boss had told me when he cut my position, and would he please put his recommendation through and let's see what happens; when he did, he got an explicit no. I expected that, but it's a data point to have the tacit acknowledgement replaced by outright proof that the guy is personally and specifically nixing my efforts to find another spot in the department. Managers who want to hire me are being flat-out told they can't.

--G.
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9. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   > Managers who want to hire me are being
>flat-out told they can't.
>

A petty-minded middle manager. I don't understand people like that, and I don't think I ever will.

Peter Eng
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10. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
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   Sounds like you have the beginnings of a good civil law suit building there.

Michael C. Fortner
"Maxim 37: There is no such thing as "overkill".
There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".


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Gryphonadmin
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11. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
In response to message #10
 
   >Sounds like you have the beginnings of a good civil law suit building
>there.

I looked into something similar last year, when a different spate of ridiculous treatment happened just before I ended up taking medical leave, and the lawyer I talked to basically said, "District of Columbia corporation? Don't bother, they can do whatever they want."

--G.
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12. "RE: Don't Give Up Your Day Job"
In response to message #11
 
   I may be showing my age now, but major suckage there.

Michael C. Fortner
"Maxim 37: There is no such thing as "overkill".
There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".


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