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"Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
 
   So I just went digging around in the studio chat archives for something that came up last year when we were talking about XCOM 2, and was reminded that some of this stuff was pretty funny. Here is a scattering of fragments, in roughly the order they came up but otherwise pretty much random. May contain spoilers, if anyone is still concerned about that kind of thing.


gryphon
I'm amused that they've named the currency in the second game "Supplies". Given some of things you spend them for, it seems a bit incongruous. Gives me the image of Lily down there somehow managing to build medi-kits and flashbang grenades out of boxes of MREs and socks.

mephron
[joke about inedibility of MREs redacted]

gryphon
Automatically crosses with the resource scarcities of Fallout 4 in my head, so that I picture Bradford rummaging through the boxes at one of those "supply drop" scan points and going, "All right, a three-pack of duct tape!"

And then Lily and half the squaddies crowd around like "Oh, rock on, score, you the man, Central."


gryphon
I have to admit, much as I have reservations about XCOM 2's premise, it does make a lot of things make meta-sense.

I do command the organization much as a man recovering from a severe head injury probably would.

:)

bzarcher
hehe

Yeah, something to that.


gryphon
"What have we here? An officer! Looks like someone wants to be skulljacked."

bzarcher
"Don't worry, this won't hurt! Except for the part where it really, really hurts."

gryphon
"Dies könnte ein wenig verletzt!"

"Frankly, pal," said San conversationally to the corpse, "if you didn't want your skull broken into with an invasive cyber-intrusion device, you should have made sure your brain wasn't the easiest point of entry into the ADVENT intranet."

bzarcher
Jon: "Could you PLEASE stop doing that?"

San: "No."

gryphon
(random image of someone having to be configured for that kind of work in UF and Laura volunteering.)

LAURA: I can do that.

SKEPTICAL TECHNICIAN: How are you going to provide a conductive pathway into the dude's actual brain?

LAURA (expressionless): <snikt>

SKEPTICAL TECHNICIAN: ... Good answer.

bzarcher
heheh


gryphon
Wheatley, did you just blow concealment and hurt yourself trying to skulljack a dude? That's so... Wheatley.

gryphon
I like how it will let you skulljack a non-officer, it just doesn't do anything useful. no subject, no message - hope that's ok

bzarcher
Skullmine will at least produce Intel and sometimes facility leads

gryphon
I will admit, it at least elicited one of the best-chosen of the sounds in the Wheatley voice pack:

"... OK, so how much pain are we talking YYEEEAAAAAGGGHHHH"


gryphon
I love it when Sectoids panic my troopers, and my troopers' response is to shoot them.

You can almost see the alien player going "faaaack, why the hell am I playing Ironman."

bzarcher
"That did not work!!"


gryphon
heh, "Burning Convoy"

XCOM 2 map item or limited-edition Japanese Transformer?

bzarcher
Yes!


gryphon
... OK, I have to admit, that outcome was very Croftian.

This mission's ride-back-to-base screen could, by rights, have read,

DEALT MOST DAMAGE
Cpt. Caroline "GLaDOS" Johnson
MADE MOST ATTACKS
Lt. Steve "Wheatley" Merchant
MOST UNDER FIRE
Mag. San "Version 3" Ayanami
MOVED FURTHEST
Cpt. Zaeed "The Cleaner" Massani
BLEW SELF UP
Cpt. Derek "DJ" Croft

In DJ's defense, it did not occur to me that firing the Shredder Gun from a cover position behind a car would cause the car to explode. That would seem to me to be a slight liability in the weapon's design that should, perhaps, be brought to the attention of the Proving Ground.

Still, blowing himself up in the process of completely annihilating a Muton's face (because the SG blast also set off the car he was hiding behind) is a very DJ sort of outcome, so the judges will accept it. It was, at least, easier on the team than Wheatley's uncanny ability to be Wheatley, e.g., constantly busting concealment by stepping in places that the game did not warn me would do so. :)

Also, holy shit, powerful psionics are powerful. "OK guys, line up so I can kill you all at once with Null Lance. Thanks, b'bye!"

bzarcher
:)

gryphon
I think it's unfair that they ding you for "squad member wounded" if an enemy you mind-controlled gets shot. What was I supposed to do, evac him with us? The ride-back-to-base screen would've been amusing, but... :)

(picturing a Muton doing the cheerful thigh-slapping "well gosh that went OK!" mission-accomplished animation)

bzarcher
Heh

gryphon
[ Advent Shieldbearer has DEFECTED ]

bzarcher
That'd be kinda great.

"Oh, Sparky? Don't mind him, he decided he liked it better on this side of the fence. Damn if we can get him to speak English, though."

gryphon
(squad breaks concealment) "Zutok! Mors balakan!" "Yeah, you said it, buddy. We're zutok'd, all right."

gryphon
"Given how much hassle Shen gives Dr. Tygan, I can only imagine how she reacted to this dude."
"Actually, it's fine. They're even kind of buds. He lets her play with his gadgets."
"... Cannot un-see mental image."
"I mean his equipment. I mean oh goddammit."

Actually, given all the sniping, I am half-convinced that when no one is looking, Lily and Tygan are meeting up in the dark, untraveled corners of the Avenger for furtive but furious makeout sessions.

bzarcher
Ew. ew. ew. ew.

Entirely possible.

But ew.

gryphon
Sorry. Here is a picture of Hibiki with a pot on her head, blazing away with a Bren gun for no readily evident reason.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2301173

bzarcher
:) Apology accepted.


gryphon
Also, I'd just like to note that the GLaDOS voice pack works really well for a sniper. That coldly aloof death-from-above thing meshes pretty much perfectly.

bzarcher
Does she like to passive-aggressively imply the Muton has put on weight before she shoots him?

gryphon
(She's a god damn rock star, too. Her crowning achievement so far was acing both of the suddenly arrived Sectoids from a highway overpass a block away from the convenience store where the data thingy was located. Overwatched one, which triggered Death from Above, pistoled the other one. "You, subject name here, must be the pride of, subject hometown here." :)

bzarcher
Oh, nice.

gryphon
DJ's all "I've got eyes on an ADVENT - never mind."


bzarcher
"Misato, is there an editorial bent in calling this Operation SENSELESS HERO?"

"Probably not?"


gryphon
converting 3:8, got to the scene where the SEELE goons grab DJ and Asuka prep. to Ichi ordering their execution

having had them in my XCOM 2 squad for so long now, I automatically hear the "overwatch!" sound and see the little flag above Ranger Langley's head

[ ! BLADESTORM ]

melee range? bad call, brutha


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         RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2 Peter Eng Nov-24-17 4
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MoonEyes
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1. "RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
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   With just the slightest bit of editing, this sort of works as (un)intended.

"Also, holy shit, powerful psionics are powerful. "OK guys, line up so I can kill you all at once with Null Lance. Thanks, b'bye!"

bzarch"

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2. "RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-23-17 AT 06:10 PM (EST)
 
>With just the slightest bit of editing, this sort of works as
>(un)intended.
>
>"Also, holy shit, powerful psionics are powerful. "OK guys, line up so
>I can kill you all at once with Null Lance. Thanks, b'bye!"
>
>bzarch"

Hee.

There was a guy at WPI named Schletzberger, whose username on the (eight-letter limit) Encore was schletz. After some consideration, we decided that was the sound it makes when a redshirt gets vaporized on Star Trek, as well, as the verb describing the occurrence ("did you see that guy get schletzed?").

In fact, now that I think about it, I believe Schletz appears in UF Core 3, getting schletzed by Yuri on her way out of the SDF-17. There are a number of patently gratuitous deaths in early UF, almost all of them of people whom the authors found a bit irritating IRL (except for Fritz Koopman's, which was, strangely enough, requested by Fritz himself). In hindsight, it was all rather juvenile and unkind of us. :)

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3. "RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
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   Should I admit that I know that he, in the guise of a Dominos Pizza guy, got mind-crashed by Yuri's cyber attack utilities? Or is that showing that I'm a bit too creepy, as it were?

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4. "RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
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   >
>In fact, now that I think about it, I believe Schletz appears in UF
>Core 3, getting schletzed by Yuri on her way out of the SDF-17.
>

I think that Yuri was covering UF-Gryphon's escape.

>
> In hindsight, it was all rather juvenile and unkind of us.
>:)
>

Based on what I've seen, it's one of the little joys of being a writer.

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5. "RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
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   >gryphon
>I think it's unfair that they ding you for "squad member wounded" if
>an enemy you mind-controlled gets shot. What was I supposed to do,
>evac him with us? The ride-back-to-base screen would've been amusing,
>but... :)
>
>(picturing a Muton doing the cheerful thigh-slapping "well gosh that
>went OK!" mission-accomplished animation)
>
>bzarcher
>Heh
>
>gryphon
>[ Advent Shieldbearer has DEFECTED ]
>
>bzarcher
>That'd be kinda great.
>
>"Oh, Sparky? Don't mind him, he decided he liked it better on this
>side of the fence. Damn if we can get him to speak English, though."
>
>gryphon
>(squad breaks concealment) "Zutok! Mors balakan!" "Yeah, you said
>it, buddy. We're zutok'd, all right."
>
>gryphon
>"Given how much hassle Shen gives Dr. Tygan, I can only imagine how
>she reacted to this dude."
>"Actually, it's fine. They're even kind of buds. He lets her play
>with his gadgets."
>"... Cannot un-see mental image."
>"I mean his equipment. I mean oh goddammit."

In which Gryph manages to predict the Skirmisher faction. =]

Also, it kinda makes sense that a datajack-gone-wrong would result in the Skirmishers being, y'know, a thing. Given how ritualised a lot of the leader's dialogue is, I think it's telling that their melee weapon looks like a skulljack, deploys like a skulljack, and is even called a Ripjack.

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FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

I just kinda wish they'd done more with the Skirmishers. Like, you can unlock the ability to use a souped-up GREMLIN that's basically a tiny Cyberdisc or smth.


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6. "RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
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   >Also, it kinda makes sense that a datajack-gone-wrong would result in
>the Skirmishers being, y'know, a thing. Given how ritualised a
>lot of the leader's dialogue is, I think it's telling that their melee
>weapon looks like a skulljack, deploys like a skulljack, and is even
>called a Ripjack.

It appears that it can even be used kind of like a skulljack. In the cutscene where he's introduced, Mox uses his to glean some information from a Purifier he's in the process of killing with a Ripjack uppercut. He's not hacking the whole dang ADVENT network like the XCOM model is shown to do, but there's definitely information transfer happening there.

As I discovered a little while ago, the actual origin of the Skirmishers is in the game after all, it's just that it's buried in the big raft of flavor text that's sorta-semi-hidden in the (non-game-critical) Commander's Quarters screen. The explanation given there is that Betos (their leader) had a defective chip that wasn't fully effective, and she eventually piled up enough spoons to desert, then figured out a way to dike others out of the network.

(This passage further notes that the Chosen Assassin was originally created to police deserters like her, which implies that Betos is not the first this has happened to, but is the only one badass enough to avoid getting wasted long enough to establish a movement. Which is great, except that the game appears to randomize which Chosen is aligned against which Resistance faction in any given campaign. So annoying.)

>I just kinda wish they'd done more with the Skirmishers. Like,
>you can unlock the ability to use a souped-up GREMLIN that's basically
>a tiny Cyberdisc or smth.

I dunno, that would be kinda cool, but it would probably require replacing the Ripjack as the Skirmisher's secondary, and Justice is too hilarious for me to support that. :)

The Reaper's secondary is the one that irritates me the most. They're meant to operate at range, and yet their secondary is an explosive charge they can't throw very far. So if you're playing them the way their primary ability wants you to, they can never make any worthwhile use of it. What?

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7. "RE: Internal Musings on XCOM 2"
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   I actually really like the Claymore. The way I use it is to rock up close to an untriggered formation with a Sharpshooter in tow, chuck the Claymore on the formation, and blow it up via squadsight. Which I think fits in more with their theme as saboteurs rather than outright snipers - there's a reason the Vektor rifle isn't a squadsight weapon, I guess. =]

Now the Autopistol, that there's some hot garbage.

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