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"TIA prelim info: character capsules"
 
   As promised, here are some capsule bios and reference images for some of the characters you'll meet in Bubblegum Crisis: The Iron Age.

Ben Stark
(no picture)

Benjamin H. Stark is a freelance reporter who operates his own independent news feedsite, StarkWire, on the InfoWeb. He's known for his uncompromising stance on corporate responsibility, especially as it applies to GENOM's constant denial of any culpability in rogue-boomer incidents, and is one of the foremost mainstream-media champions of the existence of the Knight Sabers. He supports his penchant for globetrotting journalism through his ownership of a successful American technology and cybernetics company, Stark Industries.

Dr. MegaZone
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MegaZone, no other name, is a biomedical and cybernetics researcher for Stark Industries. He has doctorates in medicine and cybernetics; with those skills, he develops cyberware and the equipment and medical procedures used to install and maintain it. His inventions range from medical replacements like the StarkMed Model 74 bionic heart to modifications primarily employed by military and police forces, such as nano-infiltrative bone and skin reinforcement technologies. An old friend of Ben Stark's from college days, he is often found in his boss's company, leading many to speculate that the large, imposing cybersurgeon - who is known for testing his inventions himself - is also Stark's bodyguard.

Sylia Stingray

Sylia is the daughter of the late Dr. Katsuhito Stingray, inventor of the first-generation BUMA technology which made possible, several years after his death, the Boomer Revolution. Publicly, she lives on the income from her father's patents but shares none of his technological genius, instead supplementing her inheritance by designing clothing and operating her own ladies' wear shop. Stylish and sophisticated, Sylia is a well-regarded designer, but no one who knows her from that world would imagine that she's the chief engineer, organizer, and driving force behind the Knight Sabers.

Priss S. Asagiri

A rough-and-ready rock-n-roll girl, Priss is the lead singer of the retro rock band Priss & the Replicants. She writes most of the band's songs and is also a guitarist, though she rarely plays on stage. She's a former member of an outlaw motorcycle gang and still has connections in that world (as well as an unabated passion for fast bikes). Though she's rough-edged and abrasive, Priss is very loyal to the few friends she has, and she does possess a sense of humor - it's just dark and sardonic. She's arguably the deadliest of the Knight Sabers; her hardsuit is optimized for firepower and durability, and she never hesitates to take the fight to the enemy. Some of her friends suspect she may harbor a suppressed death wish.

Linna Yamazaki

Linna is the Knight Sabers' close-quarter-battle specialist. A former dancer and trained martial artist, she has the most advanced formal combat skills of the group (even if she can't quite match Priss's sheer ferocity). She's also the most grounded of the group, more in touch with reality than bike-and-rock-obsessed Priss, computer-obsessed Nene, or just-plain-obsessed Sylia. She works as a fitness instructor because the work is easy for her and the hours are flexible, but she's also interested in subjects as diverse as finance, the fine arts, and travel. Linna's hardsuit is optimized for melee combat, with a full set of concussion arrays and a pair of flexible vibrocutters ("razor ribbons", as they're known in the trade).

Nene Romanova

The youngest Knight Saber, Nene is also the only one with a real day job - she's a dispatcher for the Advanced Police, the paramilitary city agency tasked with responding to boomer incidents and other situations in which the public is endangered by forces beyond the regular police's ability to confront. The consummate hacker, Nene can do almost anything with a computer - including falsify her own birth records to obscure her actual age. Her main function with the Knight Sabers is information support; in the field, she's an unimpressive combatant, lacking either real fighting ability or the equipment to allow her to user her native ingenuity to make up for it. She's a happy-go-lucky girl who believes that things will usually work out for the best, but the fact that the other Knight Sabers consider her a liability in the field bothers her more than she'll let on.

Mackie Stingray

Sylia's younger brother Mackie serves as a sort of handyman for the Knight Sabers. He helps out with the gear, drives the mobile equipment bay that the team often deploys in field missions, and provides logistical support from the rear during combat operations. He's also the chief vehicle mechanic for the group. He's a quiet kid, doesn't make a lot of waves, but he's very reliable. If anybody in the group gets into trouble, they know Mackie's reassuring voice and extensive support resources are just a phone or radio call away.

Leon McNichol

Leon is a detective sergeant with the AD Police, the youngest officer ever to be elevated to that lofty rank. He did his time in an armored uniform as one of the force's tactical grunts, surviving through a combination of quick wits, toughness, and blind luck to become a detective. His hard-charging style makes him the kind of guy who either does well in an outfit like the ADP or die trying, and so far he's avoided the dying part. He thinks he's a smooth-talking ladies' man, and maybe he is with the right kind of ladies, but he has an unfortunate tendency to be attracted to the kinds of girls his patter doesn't work on - like Priss. Unlike most ADP officers, Leon doesn't hate the Knight Sabers; if anything, he finds them intriguing.

Daley Wong

Leon's partner Daley is a quiet intellectual, which makes him a good counterweight to Leon's full-speed man-of-action persona. Daley's always looking at the angles, trying to figure out the big picture; he leaves obsessing over the details to Leon. He also usually drives the car; it tends to get wrecked less often that way. Daley and Leon have worked together for years - they came up through Uniform together - and the fact that Daley's gay and Leon's not ceased to be an issue in their friendship a long time ago - although Daley still finds it deeply amusing that he knows better than Leon how to a) keep a relationship stable and b) talk to a woman.

--G.
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1. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   That's quite possibly the best combo of old-school and new-school BGC characters you could have assembled!

(Though some of Leon and Daley's lines from 2040 were absolutely awesome.)

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2. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   LAST EDITED ON Jan-26-06 AT 02:21 AM (EST)
 
>That's quite possibly the best combo of old-school and new-school BGC
>characters you could have assembled!

It is perhaps worth noting (for those of you who didn't pick up on it from the band name) that, though Priss in The Iron Age looks like the Tokyo 2040 version, she's more like the original in most other ways. She sings like the original Priss, with a much more retro musical style, and has more of a sense of humor than the 2040 version (though she's still not what you would really call a nice girl).

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3. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >It is perhaps worth noting (for those of you who didn't pick up on it
>from the band name) that, though Priss in The Iron Age
>looks like the Tokyo 2040 version, she's more like the
>original in most other ways. She sings like the original Priss, with
>a much more retro musical style, and has more of a sense of humor than
>the 2040 version (though she's still not what you would really call a
>nice girl).

Or, as I noted to Gryph earlier, "2040 Hair. Good choice."

:)


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   LAST EDITED ON Jan-26-06 AT 06:36 AM (EST)
 
Out of all the Sabers, Priss' 2040 design is the one that most resembles the original, really. When I first saw sketches of how she was going to look, I can recall commenting to someone that she rather looked like Priss.. just drawn by a very different character designer than Sonoda.

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14. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >>It is perhaps worth noting (for those of you who didn't pick up on it
>>from the band name) that, though Priss in The Iron Age
>>looks like the Tokyo 2040 version, she's more like the
>>original in most other ways. She sings like the original Priss, with
>>a much more retro musical style, and has more of a sense of humor than
>>the 2040 version (though she's still not what you would really call a
>>nice girl).
>
>Or, as I noted to Gryph earlier, "2040 Hair. Good choice."
>
>:)

The big complaint about ClassicPriss always seems to come down to "80s Hair". So doesn't it figure that my first thought when I first saw the design of 2040 Priss was "Joan Jett." In other words - "80s Hair".

Nobody can win when it comes to hair, I guess :)

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16. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >The big complaint about ClassicPriss always seems to come down to "80s
>Hair". So doesn't it figure that my first thought when I first saw the
>design of 2040 Priss was "Joan Jett." In other words - "80s Hair".

I think if I had to pick between Trashy '80s Hair and Joan Jett '80s Hair, Joan Jett would win; I thought "Joan Jett" wrt 2040 Priss as well. :)

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19. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >>The big complaint about ClassicPriss always seems to come down to "80s
>>Hair". So doesn't it figure that my first thought when I first saw the
>>design of 2040 Priss was "Joan Jett." In other words - "80s Hair".
>
>I think if I had to pick between Trashy '80s Hair

also frequently known as "Jersey Girl Hair". I lived in New Jersey for most of the 80s, and sure saw enough of it. (no, I didn't have JGHair - it wouldn't have worked with my hardhat at work, and I look awful with long hair anyway)

>and Joan Jett '80s
>Hair, Joan Jett would win;

Oh, agreed!


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20. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >>I think if I had to pick between Trashy '80s Hair
>
>also frequently known as "Jersey Girl Hair". I lived in New Jersey for
>most of the 80s, and sure saw enough of it.

I lived one town over from Revere, MA. AFAIK, hair like that has *yet* to go out of fashion, along with greaser haircuts on guys and purple zebra-striped weightlifter pants. ;)

Fortunately, Priss is unlikely to commit any such fashion nightmares.

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21. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >>>I think if I had to pick between Trashy '80s Hair
>>
>>also frequently known as "Jersey Girl Hair". I lived in New Jersey for
>>most of the 80s, and sure saw enough of it.
>
>I lived one town over from Revere, MA. AFAIK, hair like that has
>*yet* to go out of fashion, along with greaser haircuts on guys and
>purple zebra-striped weightlifter pants. ;)

Hee. There was a woman who worked in the customer service department at Leading Edge who had Revere Hair. We used to tease her about it. "So hey, Renee, how are things in Revere?" "I'M NOT FROM REVEEAH!!"

Which, to be fair, was the truth.

She was from Everett.

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24. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >Hee. There was a woman who worked in the customer service department
>at Leading Edge who had Revere Hair. We used to tease her about it.
>"So hey, Renee, how are things in Revere?" "I'M NOT FROM REVEEAH!!"
>
>Which, to be fair, was the truth.
>
>She was from Everett.
>
Having grown up in the Boston Area and dealt with various peoples' local accents (Mefed, anyone?), that just broke me. Quietly, to be sure (I'm at work), but definitely a good one.

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17. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >The big complaint about ClassicPriss always seems to come down to "80s
>Hair". So doesn't it figure that my first thought when I first saw the
>design of 2040 Priss was "Joan Jett." In other words - "80s Hair".

Joan Jett hair is better than 'Just as soon as I get out of this hardsuit I'm going to put on my leotard and head over to my Jazzercise class' hair, IMO.

It works on Linna, though. ;)


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18. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >Joan Jett hair is better than 'Just as soon as I get out of this
>hardsuit I'm going to put on my leotard and head over to my Jazzercise
>class' hair, IMO.
>
>It works on Linna, though. ;)

Very occasionally, they would show Linna without her headband.

And, you know, not to be indiscreet or anything, but, rowr.

Oh, here's a couple better shots of Nene:

It's hard to get the colors right - she keeps appearing in scenes with odd lighting :) - but you get the idea.

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   >He has doctorates in medicine and cybernetics; with those skills, he develops >cyberware and the equipment and medical procedures used to install and maintain >it. His inventions range from medical replacements like the StarkMed Model 74 >bionic heart to modifications primarily employed by military and police forces, >such as nano-infiltrative bone and skin reinforcement technologies.

It's been years since I last saw any part of the BC, and the parts I do remember are mostly associated with Bob's DWII, so I might be wrong in my recollections but isn't their some cultural or possible technical taboo about cybernetics? Are people going to be freaked out by ol' Doc MegaZone and his black bag or is it more of a "the Japanese hate/fear cyber but everyone else, ehhh not so much?" If this is a plot point, I'll cheerfully mind my own buisness and any other buisness that needs minding :D

>Publicly, she lives on the income from her father's patents but shares none of >his technological genius,

HA!

>Nene Romanova

...

This is the first time I've ever seen the 2040 Nene, and in all honesty I have no idea how I feel about the new look. I don't feel apathy, which I guess is a good thing, but it'll take some getting used to for my mind to "see" her when I read. I will say that I do like the fact that the blond is a realistic sandy color instead of something out of a 1st graders Crayola box. And speaking of redesigns...

>Daley Wong

Am I the only one who thinks Daley should be teaching English Lit 101?

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6. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >>Daley Wong

I loved Daily's redesign. Leon's was TERRIBLE.. But Daley was great, if only in that he was no longer a pure flaming cliche any longer. Certainly, he dressed entirely too well, but he was no longer looked like a Liberace clone.

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   >I loved Daily's redesign. Leon's was TERRIBLE.. But Daley was great,
>if only in that he was no longer a pure flaming cliche any longer.
>Certainly, he dressed entirely too well, but he was no longer looked
>like a Liberace clone.

Also, from certain angles he looks like Thomas Dolby, which is cool.

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   >It's been years since I last saw any part of the BC, and the parts I
>do remember are mostly associated with Bob's DWII, so I might
>be wrong in my recollections but isn't their some cultural or possible
>technical taboo about cybernetics?

I haven't seen much evidence of same in my recent poke through the DVD set. Then again, there's not much evidence of cybernetics in BGC in the first place. Oh, sure, in AD Police Files there was the freaktastic Robocop guy everybody was afraid of, but that was AD Police Files. Its view of the BGC universe is only a couple of steps removed from the world of SCUD: The Disposable Assassin. :)

The Iron Age universe is kind of its own thing in that regard, I guess. It's got a little bit of both BGC universes in it, and the rest, pretty much by default, had to be invented in-house.

>Are people going to be freaked out
>by ol' Doc MegaZone and his black bag or is it more of a "the Japanese
>hate/fear cyber but everyone else, ehhh not so much?"

Well, those who know about it think it's kind of weird that he likes to test his inventions himself, and he's definitely more wired than your average citizen, but at the same time, he's not obvious about it unless he's doing something. He's not one of these ostentatious kromeboiz who sits around polishing his bio-armor.

Anyway, no, there isn't a big cultural bias against cybernetic augmentation. Some people don't want to get it themselves, for various reasons - because of the cost, the maintenance requirements, it's just not their cup of tea - but most don't really have a problem with it in other people, especially if there's some indication that it was necessary. For example, neuroprocessors are gaining in popularity because they're very useful, but people have security concerns about them and they're the kind of specialized technology that the man on the street has no real use for in the first place.

Having a limb replacement because you were in a car crash isn't a big deal. Having one because you had a perfectly good arm cut off and replaced with a cybernetic one, and then making a big deal out of it in public, will get you thought of as a big time freak, but that has more to do with the "deliberate mutilation" part of the picture.

>This is the first time I've ever seen the 2040 Nene, and in all
>honesty I have no idea how I feel about the new look. I don't feel
>apathy, which I guess is a good thing, but it'll take some getting
>used to for my mind to "see" her when I read. I will say that I do
>like the fact that the blond is a realistic sandy color instead of
>something out of a 1st graders Crayola box.

I have to admit it's not the best picture of her, but it was getting late and I didn't want to take the time to go get my DVD set and get some decent screencaps.

Anyway, here's the thing about Nene: unlike, say, Sylia (who has markedly different personalities in the two versions, but one of them is irritating as shit), Linna (who has pretty much no personality in the original, and whose 2040 characterization doesn't fit the TIA story because it's pretty well bound up in the 2040 plot itself), or Priss (who is, conversely, kind of a cipher in 2040), both versions of Nene are a lot of fun to me, but they manage it in different ways. I didn't know which one I was going to go with until midway through production on issue #1, at which point the way a particular scene I was working on broke down pretty much made the call for me.

If you want to stretch a metaphor, they both got to audition, and for this particular storyline, the more, uh... peppery version won. 2032 Nene is still one of my favorite characters, and the fact that she was passed over for Iron Age isn't supposed to be some kind of snub or partisan thing, so I hope it's not taken that way by any of y'all out there.

As for those of you who are big 2032 partisans, I'll just ask you to give her a shot. Maybe you'll like her better separated from most of her original context. It's worked before.

And don't despair; this doesn't necessarily mean that redheaded Nene will never work for EPU again...

>Am I the only one who thinks Daley should be teaching English Lit 101?

He needs some suede elbow patches. :)

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10. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >Linna (who has pretty much no personality in
>the original, and whose 2040 characterization doesn't fit the TIA
>story because it's pretty well bound up in the 2040 plot itself

I had been wondering why you'd chosen to go 2032 Linna - when you mentioned that a blend of characters were going to be in this I suspected you'd be using 2040 Nene and Linna (who, based on the original flavor's aforementioned personality issues, is now my mental default image of Linna even though the 2032's design is cuter) - but that makes perfect sense to me. It would give you room to actually develop 2032 Linna. I'm also glad you went with the original Leon; while I don't mind the 2040 version he's really overly serious and humorless. Instead of just providing a handy target for Daley, I'm looking forward to your depiction of their relationship and interactions.


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15. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >>It's been years since I last saw any part of the BC, and the parts I
>>do remember are mostly associated with Bob's DWII, so I might
>>be wrong in my recollections but isn't their some cultural or possible
>>technical taboo about cybernetics?
>
>I haven't seen much evidence of same in my recent poke through the DVD
>set. Then again, there's not much evidence of cybernetics in
>BGC in the first place. Oh, sure, in AD Police Files there was
>the freaktastic Robocop guy everybody was afraid of, but that was
>AD Police Files. Its view of the BGC universe is only a couple
>of steps removed from the world of SCUD: The Disposable
>Assassin
. :)

AD Police Files had that law that anyone who became >=80% cybernetic was considered a boomeroid and therefore an open target for police (see OAV#2, "The Ripper"). I don't recall it being said that the reason for the cybernetics (by choice or due to accident) made any difference to the law.

I don't think that people were all that afraid of Billy in OAV#3 (who appeared to be a lot more than 80% cyber, but Billy was working for the police too), but some folks sure seemed uncomfortable around him. I don't know if it was *him* or his *situation* ('if I get shot up bad, will they do this to me too?')that was making them uncomfortable. Like you, I don't recall anything like laws against massiver cyber or the like mentioned in BGClassic.

Of course, BGClassic *fanfic* is another story entirely.... but then fanfic usually is :)


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9. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 03:01 PM (EST)
 
Yay! Nene! As the only person here who's never seen the 2032 version in action, let me just say it's good to see the Nene I know. :)

I would, though, be interested in knowing what the differences between 2032 and 2040 Nene are. Based solely on the Dark Horse book, my guess is that 2032 Nene is a more Leet-minded hacker ("I can do anything on the network.") than 2040, who seems to be more programmer-like ("You want it done, fine, there, praise me now!") to me.

Also, just because I am curious, are Ben Stark and Tony Stark related in anyway, or is Ben Stark this universes analogue of Tony -- with Ben being a hero more because of what he writes than what he wears?

And, because I am an OS-tan fetishist, is system:starkwire.com the Friday I think it is? :)


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11. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >I would, though, be interested in knowing what the differences between
>2032 and 2040 Nene are.

The original Nene is less confident away from the keyboard and considerably less perky, but quieter and in many cases easier to deal with. Beyond that, distinctions are hard to draw; the 2040 version had a lot more screen time to work with (although I haven't actually seen most of the show yet, so I'm basing my version on just the first few episodes). I can't speak much to their differences in hacking style, since the computer stuff one actually saw on screen in the OVAs tended to have been... how shall I put this... designed by animators who had, I suspect, never actually seen anyone use a computer before except on TV. :)

>Also, just because I am curious, are Ben Stark and Tony Stark related
>in anyway, or is Ben Stark this universes analogue of Tony -- with Ben
>being a hero more because of what he writes than what he wears?

I can't answer this; the first couple of episodes will answer it for me.

>And, because I am an OS-tan fetishist, is system:starkwire.com the
>Friday I think it is? :)

Filtered through the fact that I haven't actually read the issues she appeared in for at least five years, yes.

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12. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 03:01 PM (EST)
 
>Filtered through the fact that I haven't actually read the issues she
>appeared in for at least five years, yes.

That said, knowing what you did with other characters in UF, she'll probably end up being a better version for it.

That said, WOOOO!

Also, since I don't want to start a new thread about this, have you read Cory Doctorow's Themepunks story over at Salon.com? It's about a freelance tech journalist in the same era (though vastly different world) as Ben Stark. I wasn't sure you considered the similar employment of a fictional character as valuable research or not.


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13. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >Also, since I don't want to start a new thread about this, have you
>read Cory Doctorow's Themepunks story over at Salon.com?

Nope; Salon's ad policy bugs the crap out of me, so I generally don't go over there unless Ardie finds something she wants me to look at and twists my arm a little get me to sit through one of their "be our bitch for a few minutes and then you can go look at our website" things.

Much of Ben Stark's memetic heritage, as far as what he does for a living (albeit practically none of his actual characterization), comes from Transmetropolitan. That and my own experiences as a newspaperman, which are admittedly of peripheral relevance to the life of a 21st-century cyberjournalist.

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22. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   > His inventions range from
>medical replacements like the StarkMed Model 74 bionic heart to

OK, I have to ask, being a big Iron Man fanboy... OK, if we have this, why the heck does Stark need the chest plate?

(Yes, I know the answer is "Explained later...", but I still have to ask. It's obligatory.)

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23. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   >> His inventions range from
>>medical replacements like the StarkMed Model 74 bionic heart to
>
>OK, I have to ask, being a big Iron Man fanboy... OK, if we have
>this, why the heck does Stark need the chest plate?

The short answer is "post-traumatic stress disorder".

The long answer is going to be most of issue 2.

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25. "RE: TIA prelim info: character capsules"
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   Ooooh, right. Little of column A, little of pillar q.

This would explain why certain people (Nene) I recognised, while others (Linna) I did not.
I'd begun to assume "2040" version from blone Nene. Stems somewhat from being familar with about half of 2040, and none of anything other variant.

~Silv'


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