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15. "RE: A shadowy flight, etc."
In response to message #10
 
   >>And don't even get me started over the current vogue
>>for low-mileage leases for well-qualified buyers. Some of us have...
>>blemishes... on our credit.
>
>For what it's worth, I had pretty attractive lease offers made to me
>on at least two different cars (both of them Fords, as it happens, so
>mileage may vary by manufacturer), and my credit's not perfect either.
> Not as aggressive as the figures they quote on the TV
>commercials, but still quite good. I'm wary of leases because they
>used to be such a punchline in these parts—a stock device for shady
>dealers to lever money out of people who didn't have it, the
>automotive finance equivalent of payday loans—but nowadays they're
>not like that, at least not the ones offered through the manufacturers
>by main-line franchised dealers.

My primary objection with a lot of lease offers is that they're teasers, especially the hyper-aggressive ones you mention, the ones on TV that have "five grand down" and "you'd better have a FICO score of 800, bitch" hidden in the fine print. Those basically exist to lure people in the door and encourage them to overbuy. I know it seems weird to be irked about that, since "encourage people to overbuy" is one of the bedrock principles of the American car market and has been since before my parents were born, but still.

But leases in general? Yeah, they're pretty okay. My brother and sister-in-law swear by them, because they're the sort of people who want to get a new car every three to five years anyway. So lease deals are phenomenal, because they're fine with having a monthly payment from now until infinity, and it's way lower than it would be if they were financing since they're basically only paying depreciation and sometimes not even that.

That's not me. I've bought two cars in my life and both lasted 10+ years. In part, this is because I've been poor. I'm not poor anymore, but being poor for something like fifteen years leaves its mark on a man and I'm crazy paranoid about assuming debt. When I finally landed a good job and entered the middle class, my family was all "oh, I guess you'll be buying a house and a nice car and going on expensive trips and &c" and I was like "you're all fucking crazy, I will continue living in my perfectly nice apartment and instead use the extra money to pay down debt and max out my 401k."

So yeah. When I pony up the dough for my next ride, we're talking 25% down payment and taking out a 36 instead of 60 month loan and paying that thing off in two years.

-Merc
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   RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Mercutio Jul-13-16 1
      RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Gryphonadmin Jul-13-16 2
          RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Mercutio Jul-13-16 3
              RE: A shadowy flight, etc. pjmoyermoderator Jul-13-16 4
              RE: A shadowy flight, etc. BobSchroeck Jul-13-16 9
                  RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Gryphonadmin Jul-13-16 11
                      RE: A shadowy flight, etc. BobSchroeck Jul-14-16 17
                  RE: A shadowy flight, etc. TheOtherSean Jul-15-16 29
              RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Gryphonadmin Jul-13-16 10
                 RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Mercutio Jul-13-16 15
              RE: A shadowy flight, etc. JFerio Jul-13-16 12
              RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Wiregeek Jul-14-16 22
                  RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Pasha Jul-14-16 23
                      RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Wiregeek Jul-15-16 26
                  RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Gryphonadmin Jul-14-16 24
                      RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Wiregeek Jul-15-16 27
                          RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Gryphonadmin Jul-15-16 28
   RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Peter Eng Jul-13-16 5
      RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Mercutio Jul-13-16 6
          RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Peter Eng Jul-13-16 7
          RE: A shadowy flight, etc. JFerio Jul-13-16 13
              RE: A shadowy flight, etc. VoidRandom Jul-15-16 25
      RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Gryphonadmin Jul-13-16 8
          RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Mercutio Jul-13-16 14
      RE: A shadowy flight, etc. drakensis Jul-14-16 16
          RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Gryphonadmin Jul-14-16 18
              RE: A shadowy flight, etc. Meridias Jul-14-16 19
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