Ouch. I've never tried the Genesis -- didn't even know it existed until now -- but... ow.

Oh, and a quick return to the Saturn topic for a final testimonial. I was impressed from the start with Saturn's safety features, and recently we got dramatic proof that they were far more than just marketing hype. We loaned our 2002 SL1 last year to a friend who needed a car. (This was after buying the Hyundai.) She put another 25-30K on it, before getting sunglared one morning during her commute and rear-ending the car in front of her. She totaled the Saturn and was able to walk away with only scratches and bruises.

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.