>BTW, Juri was right; I don't think I can look at Miki the same
>way ever again. :)

Goth Miki, a new action figure - coming to a toystore near you - with genuine velvet pants.

Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

Goth Miki, a new action figure - coming to a toystore near you - with genuine velvet pants.

So that's why Gryphon's brain tormented him with visions of vampires. Good call leaving them out, though; I figure if real vampires existed, they'd have nothing but contempt for the goth crowd. (No offense meant to goths in specific; from what I've seen of them, though, they're merely a manifestation of the 'I want to be an individual, just like everyone else' trend.)

--Zenigame, who'd look really lousy in vampire makeup, even if his skin is naturally pallid

Touch me, I'm velvet...

>So that's why Gryphon's brain tormented him with visions of
>vampires. Good call leaving them out, though; I figure if real
>vampires existed, they'd have nothing but contempt for the goth crowd.
> (No offense meant to goths in specific; from what I've seen of
>them, though, they're merely a manifestation of the 'I want to be an
>individual, just like everyone else' trend.)

That, or he put in the goth section to foist of the vampire muse.

And, nah the vampires wouldn't have contempt for the Goth crowd...no more then you have contempt for cattle...I mean think about it, it's built in camoflage. We stay up all night, are asleep all day, plus enough of us are junkies that track marks on the arms wouldn't be noticed. And enough of us wear fake fangs that those would just be passed off as well, except for maybe they would get compliments..."Hey man, who did those? They look great. I wish I could get mine to be anything but 2 shades lighter then my real teeth."

And yeah, we are. Just lke everyone else does...we just like this way. That, and dressing like a 19th century streetwalker is fun. :-)

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-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

Actually, it's a parallel coincidence. The vampire thing may yet turn up at some point. Darn it, I used to like them, before the World of Pretention crowd got hold of them.

--G.
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Dorthy's maintanince bay goes on the fritz, and she starts requiring blood to affect internal repairs!

--
-Pasha
Walks towards members of the Narn Bat Squad.

Er... since Dorothy is an electromechanical robot (or, to use a phrase my friend Andrew Petrarca coined and of which I'm very fond, a "galvanic girl"), not a bioroid, that wouldn't work very well... it'd just get her mock alimentary canal all sticky.

--G.
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It was something of a joke...I doubt that vampires would fit well into SoS. .45, maybe, but not SoS..

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-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

Not right now, no, but keep in mind that I have a plot arc right now that leads to something like 2420. Anyway, I'm not thinking of a whole rampaging horde of them; that would be unwieldy. :)

--G.
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Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

Whoever said that Vampires should go rampaging and keep
in hordes ?

A smart one , who would know how to adapt to the
whole tech thing , smart enough to feinge body-heat emmisions
and vital processes , cunning enough to have survived
a few centuries . If he were really smart he wouldn't even
have to feed , he'd think of something like blood-synthetyzing
nano-machines in his bloodstream or one of numerous other
choices that come to mind .
If the Vampires we're talking about here ignore simple religious
icons when those aren't backed up by true faith and the effect
the sun has on them is merely caused by their body chemistry
and/or extremely sensitive skin then implants and modifications
would handle that easily enough .

And if they are a species you'd think they'd adapt naturally
at some time .... the possibilities are awsome !!!

All the more reason to pay attention to Gryph's creative cycle
IMO , ne?

-Griever
being a human Malkavian is tough .

It sounds to me like this is your big chance to knock some wind out of the pretensious vampire crowd, or to reinvent them. Vampire skatepunks, anyone?

--rR

no, that's cruel and unusual punishment...and we don't want his brain damaged...

>--
>"Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading
>human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon,
>firing on a Vree cruiser.

--
-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

You forget, Pasha, I live in Rochester. :)

--
"Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon, firing on a Vree cruiser.

Have you dug out from Winter yet?

(Lived there for a while - nice place, but winter comes far too early...)

--
Geoff Depew - Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals
(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

These days, 'winter' - as defined by "snow deep enough to need digging out from" - generally lasts from late january/early february through mid-april.

It's now September, and yesterday it was 90 degrees out.

--
"Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon, firing on a Vree cruiser.

Geez, back in 1992 when I lived there I remember digging my car out in November twice. Which wasn't fun...

--
Geoff Depew - Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals
(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

Trade ya. Over here it's a case of:

"Doing anything this summer?"
"No, I'm working that day."

drakensisthered

So I simply said one of the great trite truths: "There is generally more than one side to a story." - Corwin, Roger Zelazny's 'Courts of Chaos'

Damn, you were here in '92?

Then again, November of '92 I was in the dorms at SUNY Buffalo, and the
day after a huge storm dumped shitloads of snow on us - before the plows came by the drifts were about 12 feet high in places - I had to walk across a quarter mile of it to try to reach campus and deliver a paper that was due...
>
>--
>Geoff Depew - Mephron
>Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech
>Support Professionals
>(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

--
"Eat hot blazing photonic pulse fire, you alien invading human-abducting saucer-alien bastards!" -- Captain of EAS Bellerophon, firing on a Vree cruiser.

What does that have to do with anything?

--
-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

Immense impressedivness on Azalynn's part for the whole 'poise' thing that Urd's capable of. On Urd's part, probably a 'hey, I know you!', assuming that Urd, being at some point (not sure about now) the Cupid, can recognize various worshippers....

>Another thing that I'm sure I'm not the first to wonder: I know it
>doesn't matter at all, but is Kate, in fact, of the lesbian
>persuasion? I get the impression she's a bit of a bi, myself. And Juri
>is... crud, I can't remember. There was something odd about her
>unrequited love, but I can't rember what is was.

Himself stated that Kate is bisexual a bit back. Juri... well, according to a check over at http://www.duellests.tj Episode 17 shows Juri to have a crush on Shiori, as she keeps her picture in the locket that gets smashed by Ruka later on (in episode 28). So... make your own conceptual leaps....

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Geoff Depew - Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals
(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

Actually, technically, Ruka -threatened- to crush Juri's locket (which
had a picture of Shiori in it from their Ohtori Junior High years) in
Episode 29, not 28. But, he didn't follow through, instead managing to
get Juri to duel Utena one last time. -Technically-, if one wants
to be pendantic, it was the Power Of Dios (tm) that shattered Juri's
locket at the end of the episode, and right after that, Juri forefited
the duel to Utena.

Hope this helps... :)

-- Philip Jeremy Moyer
{Resident Juriologist, who feels the Juri/Shiori/Ruka/etc thing
warrants a full degree on its own...}
Philip's Webpage

Geez. I haven't seen the series, I'm just skimming web pages, and I still get pissed on by experts.

This makes my workplace look like fun.

-.-

--
Geoff Depew - Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals
(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

Acpth! Gomen, gomen, I didn't mean for it to come out that way. ^_^;
(if anything, I'd thought you -had- seen the series, and was just needing
a reminder, as I know full well it gets totally weird near the latter stages...)

Apologies if I came off sounding like I was 'pissing off' on you, I assure you
it wasn't meant to sound derogatory or a put down. ^_^;

-- Philip Jeremy Moyer
{Who is the Resident Juriologist of the EPU group, but only a novice in
the eyes of the maintainer of the Utena Fanfiction Archive...}
Philip's Webpage

I have had a horrific few days at work - moved to another department and seen the department I built and wrote the book on how to do things (literally - they're working out of the manual I wrote on it), and watched the trouble tickets move from the ZERO that were there when I left on Wednesday to 100 pending issues by today, plus the filled mailbox of issues.

And the guy that's doing it now says >I< left it that way. Thankfully, the VP in charge of our group checks things at the end of every day, so he's got the records. But still, you spend two years buildig something and watch someone tear it apart in two days... it makes you more bitter than usual. (And I can already transmute milk into cottage cheese at twenty feet.)

So I was feeling evil and snarky and that just got me at a bad time, and I apologize for lashing out at someone who didn't deserve it at all.

--
Geoff Depew - Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals
(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

<rimshot>

-- Bob, obligatory rimshotter to the stars
(At least, I assume you were making a pun...)
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Maya: Isn't there anything we can do?
Ritsuko-chan: Well, there is one thing we haven't tried. We can pray real hard!
-- from Tenshi Muyo! Rei-o-ohki

*blink*

You know... it hadn't even -occured- to me until you'd pointed it out. o_O

One of these days I'm going to have to give my subconcious a stern talking-to...

-- Philip Jeremy Moyer
{standing in for Captain Oblivious...}
Philip's Webpage

>Bleh, I wrote this once already but my computer choked before I could
>send it.
>
>-Warning! Brain droppings follow!-

Heh, George Carlin is cool...heh heh..

>I have a feeling Juri will be quite at home in france, seeing as so
>much of RGU is french-inspired.

Yeah, probably. That, and Gualia seems to be an exact copy (or close enough) of France, and all it's crappiness.

>Something I really like in symphony is the intricacies of the
>relationships between all the people, like Utena and Saionji's issues
>with their freindship.

"So if I up and -whipped my shirt off- right here and now,"
she said, taking hold of the top button of her pajama top (just for
illustration, he hoped), "you'd just sit there and say, 'Get out of
the way, Tenjou, you're blocking the television'?"

I just straight shattered when I read that...

>I hope we get to see the meeting between Urd and Utena sometime. It
>may have been very interesting. Also, what'll happen if Urd meets
>Azalynn?

Azalynn goes "Wow! Pleased to meet you Urd!" Urd goes, "Hi, you must be Azalynn, Utena told me all about you."

>Another thing that I'm sure I'm not the first to wonder: I know it
>doesn't matter at all, but is Kate, in fact, of the lesbian
>persuasion? I get the impression she's a bit of a bi, myself. And Juri
>is... crud, I can't remember. There was something odd about her
>unrequited love, but I can't rember what is was.

Umm, no offense, but are you braindead or something? "Aw, how nice, you brought me a redhead"
For some reason, the day's activities had put Kaitlyn in a
slightly odd mood; with their post-prandial course of action decided,
she spent the rest of the meal girlwatching, an activity for which the
BCE Place courtyard, and indeed the City of Toronto as a whole, is a
place admirably suited. Shortly, she'd involved Miki (with slight
embarrassment) and Saionji (with faint amusement at Miki's
embarrassment) as well. Utena supposed she could have countered by
trying to interest Dorothy in a spot of guywatching, but such a scheme
didn't seem likely to be profitable, so she didn't bother. (Well,
actually, Kate was doing a bit of that too, but she wasn't commenting
about that so much, since she figured in doing so she'd lose her
collaborators.)

If you've not figured it out from this, and *several* other bits in the stories, well...Grow a Brain

>Huhuhuhu.. lesbians. Yeah Beavis, lesbians. Yeah.

Thank you very much for reminding me about that horrific bit of my past...Now I'll be making cornholio jokes all day. Bastard.

--
-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

Eesh, no need to get abusive. I just wanted clarification/confirmation. It's never safe to assume, even given the evidence from the story. I know lots of girls that girlwatch. Also the Juri thing could very well be the idolization that is found in so many anime's. Not really even lust, just sincere adoration, such as all the girls' of Ohtori squealing Utena's name while she plays basketball.

-Nightmare Butterfly
Ex-CUSE me. It's not like I wasted more than, say, 4 seconds of your time.

Could be, but Kate hasn't known Juri long enough to idolize her, even if she were the sort to do that kind of thing. :)

--G.
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Sorry..I need to stop posting from work. I wind up being more then a little abusive...vehmenace not directed at you, but at moron lusers who think that they are techs....

>Ex-CUSE me. It's not like I wasted more than, say, 4 seconds of your
>time.

:-) And I wasted more time ranting about it then you wasted posting it in the first place...

--
-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

Thank you. I am very pleased with the way Utena and Saionji's friendship has developed; over the course of Hogtown it toddled off in its own direction, and in doing so amused the hell out of me. Pure fun, and for characters who've really earned it, too. :)

>I hope we get to see the meeting between Urd and Utena sometime. It
>may have been very interesting.

Well, since I skipped over it and don't know if I'll ever get the opportunity to backfill it, I can tell you what happened - Skuld and Belldandy had warned Urd ahead of time that she was not to interfere ("Don't try to be cute, and don't try to 'help'. Keep your hands, your potions, and your 'advice' to yourself."), and now that Skuld's an adult (and Urd has matured some since Ragnarok), Urd pays attention when she puts things that seriously. So Urd was on her best behavior, and there was no havoc. She spent most of the week sitting on the toolbox and cheerleading. :)

>Also, what'll happen if Urd meets
>Azalynn?

Offhand, I would guess that they'd go out and paint the town red.

>Another thing that I'm sure I'm not the first to wonder: I know it
>doesn't matter at all, but is Kate, in fact, of the lesbian
>persuasion? I get the impression she's a bit of a bi, myself.

She's bisexual, but at the moment she's mainly looking at women. This may be due mainly to the fact that her sole (very bad) experience so far has been with a man, and thus it will take her a lot longer to dare trying to get involved with another one. Kaitlyn is very much a romantic; she has to feel as though she's in love with someone before she can go to bed with them, and that's much more likely to happen with a woman than a man at this point. (It's kind of academic right now, since she's not seeing anybody.)

>And Juri
>is... crud, I can't remember.

Juri is complicated. :) She thinks of herself as pretty much entirely homosexual, but perhaps, theoretically, if the right guy came along... not that she believes the right guy actually, literally exists, but as a skeptic she's leery of absolutes, even in labeling herself. :)

--G.
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Yeah, Miki-goth is just kinda perfect...Although I'm not so sure if Azalynn would approve. (The whole "I don't care about anything" bit of goth-hood.

>One blue eyebrow was cocked above one black-rimmed blue eye, the
>expression on his handsome, powdered, painted face an intriguing
>combination of ennui, amusement, and frank, slightly mocking sexual
>challenge.

The best part about it is the way that you get to look at mundanes...

>Because, see, when I first read this, I immediately knew that *this*
>was the subject of the picture that we were warned not to look at
>before we read the story. However, my brain immediately latched upon
>the first >picture on this page> as a possible template. And, as much as I
>like that picture, I have to say that it's probably a good idea it
>didn't provide the form for the portrait of Goth Miki. Too many
>disturbing images.

Yeah, that page is just full of disturbing images...Thank you ever so much for that bit of insanity...

>Still, that is a nice pic.

Oh, yes...Now I just wanna see a pm version of the three of them...

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-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

Well, she can't really be forced to take it, unless you mean forced by circumstances. (OK, I suppose she could if Corwin ordered her to go, but we've already established that he doesn't want to do that.)

>- The discussion only briefly touched on the passage of the
>Extension to the Psi Act; after all, though it boded ill for the
>structure of society at large, it would have no direct effect on any
>of -them-, right?
>
>For once in her life, Azalynn dv'Ir Natashkan missed a trick.
>
>Why does this last sentence feel like it's written all-caps,
>bold-face, underlined, red, extra-large font, surrounded by flashing
>lights, with ominous music for a soundtrack? Is it possible to write
>something more obviously intended to be foreshadowing something?

... OK... actually, it isn't intended to be anything particularly momentous. All it means is that Azalynn has, for once, failed to notice something about one of her friends - namely, that Devlin Carter is an unregistered telepath. Had she known that, she wouldn't have passed off the subject of the Psi Act Extension nearly so easily.

--G.
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Corwin's made his feelings about ordering her to take it quite clear, I think. And speaking of clarity, I should have been clearer. Yes, forced by circumstances to take the test (as in, "only independent, sentient beings can <do X>" "all right, give me the #&*^%$ test now") before she has an opportunity to voluntarily take it (as in, "I've scheduled myself to take the test a week from next Tuesday"). But that's my evil, suspicious sub-conscious for you, always looking for the darker side of life ;)

>>- The discussion only briefly touched on the passage of the
>>Extension to the Psi Act; after all, though it boded ill for the
>>structure of society at large, it would have no direct effect on any
>>of -them-, right?
>>
>>For once in her life, Azalynn dv'Ir Natashkan missed a trick.
>>
>>Why does this last sentence feel like it's written all-caps,
>>bold-face, underlined, red, extra-large font, surrounded by flashing
>>lights, with ominous music for a soundtrack? Is it possible to write
>>something more obviously intended to be foreshadowing something?
>
>... OK... actually, it isn't intended to be anything particularly
>momentous. All it means is that Azalynn has, for once, failed to
>notice something about one of her friends - namely, that Devlin Carter
>is an unregistered telepath. Had she known that, she wouldn't have
>passed off the subject of the Psi Act Extension nearly so easily.

Everyone has a bad day, even Azalynn. At a guess I'd say the huge majority of that entire group Devlin hangs around with has missed it. So OK, no foreshadowing beyond the Psi Act, and possible (probable?) PsiCorps raids for unregistered folks (I'd ask if we're going to get to see just how good those forged PsiCorps cards Zoner's been handing out like candy really are, but asking that sort of thing is against the rules so I won't <weg>)

Regards,

Jeanne

Jeanne

Like what? Go rescue Corwin on some other planet, when kate can't be bothered to go? (Hence requiring that she be able to go of her own free will)?

>Everyone has a bad day, even Azalynn. At a guess I'd say the huge
>majority of that entire group Devlin hangs around with has missed it.
>So OK, no foreshadowing beyond the Psi Act, and possible (probable?)
>PsiCorps raids for unregistered folks (I'd ask if we're going to get
>to see just how good those forged PsiCorps cards Zoner's been handing
>out like candy really are, but asking that sort of thing is against
>the rules so I won't <weg>)

Well, 100% is a pretty good majority...
And being as the method by which psi-corps finds out if you are a teep or not is a simple genetics test (ref: the psi-corps trilogy) and about 30% get through, well you've got a pretty good chance that even if devlin *does* get tested. And I'd assume that anything that zoner passes out is either legit, or a perfect copy.

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-Pasha
Umm, right....I'll be with you in just a sec now...

And that doesn't even touch on Utena...

Offsides

#include <antipsi.h> (and I don't mean passive psi-negation :)

#91;...#93; in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.
-- David Ben Gurion
EPU RCW #pi;
#include <stdsig.h>

Decapitation is extremely messy, and somewhat irreversible, so it really depends on the degree of pushing around. I mean, look at her duel with Saionji in Wounded Rose; she doesn't even bare her steel until he's drawn blood. She doesn't see deadly force as a first or even second option most of the time.

There are conditions, though, under which she would say, "If you do that again, I will kill you," and mean every syllable of it.

>And that doesn't even touch on Utena...

If they know what's good for them, they'd better not, too. :)

--G.
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The Psi-Corp? They wouldn't know good from a hole in their heads.
Which might actually be an improvement, as it would let some fresh air
into those brains.

Random Thought: You know, there's a whole BUNCH of enchantment on the Thorn Of Rose...a fair portion of that done by someone who has (even if he doesn't realize) rather strong feelings for Utena...

Makes me wonder just what the sword's rection to a psi-cop getting to close would be, much less Utena's (much less the rest of the IBGF)

hmmmm....

Nothing.

People ascribe a lot more to things than they should. The sword is an extension of its weilder.

And using this as a jumping off point:

I am amused/annoyed by the posts were people are like "Well if they do anything the WDF will just come in and stomp them."

Um, no - not gonna happen. The universe is way too messy for that - that would start an intergalactic war and there are decent odds the WDF would lose it. There are already issues on the frontier, and trying to fight the UFP in the rear area at the same time would be like Hitler jumping the gun and invading Russia - a bad idea.

As for the "They did it with Salusia" - a handful of people ran a Spec. Ops. mission and reinstated the rightful ruler. They succeeded because the public supported the action. If they'd put in some puppet there would have been an uprising. As it is they unseated a usurper, who was an unpopular ruler to boot, and put the proper, and popular, ruler on the throne.

Also, Kate isn't going to behead anyone. The moment she does that - she's dead. Shot at range by every PsiCop there. Many have noted that things have leveled out to be more 'normal' in SOS - that's true, and they aren't going to suddenly jump into being a superhero comic. The old core group has done many things that are nigh-impossible - most of them after a few hundred years of experience, and of late they aren't just Detians but are abnormally powerful even for that race. After Twilight they are nearly demi-gods in many ways.

But the cast of SOS are still teenagers. The cream of the crop, very exceptional teenagers, but still teenagers. If they try to stand and fight against the Psi Corps, I wouldn't bet on them. They corps is a professional, militaristic force. If the corps makes a move on them, they their only real chance is to avoid a fight.

The Psi Corps are not the Keystone Cops, and the IDS is not the JLA.

-MegaZone, megazone@megazone.org
Personal Homepage http://www.megazone.org/
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See what I'm selling on eBay

You mean those aren't Green Lantern rings? Dang

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Whoa! What IS it?!

"In reddest rose and darkest blight,
No psi-cops will escape my sight.
Let all who worship the Psi Corps' might
Beware my power -- the Rose Bride's light!"

-- Bob
---------------
Maya: Isn't there anything we can do?
Ritsuko-chan: Well, there is one thing we haven't tried. We can pray real hard!
-- from Tenshi Muyo! Rei-o-ohki

I hate to say it, but you might be sympathising with your charecters a bit too much, Bob.... that sounds like something L.T. would come up with! ^_^

___________________

Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

<chuckle> Well, out of whose warped subconscious do you think he sprang, anyway? <grin>

(Did I mention, btw, that they charge their rings with a great big red rose?)

-- Bob
---------------
Please to remember
Eleven September --
Hijack, destruction and plot.
Our outraged reaction
To terrorist action
Should never be forgot.

::SHATTER::

::Bastard!:: ^_^

___________________

Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Jeeze, my first DYO! and my first shatter, both in the same week. I feel somehow honored... like I just joined an exclusive club.

-- Bob
---------------
Please to remember
Eleven September --
Hijack, destruction and plot.
Our outraged reaction
To terrorist action
Should never be forgot.

I'd have figured they'd have to touch them to that gem on Anthy's vest chain.

--G.
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Huh. Didn't think of that. (Desperate handwaving) That's what they do, all right, but they can use a rose, because it's symbolic of the Rose Bride, and therefore by Similarity and Contagion acts as if it *were* the Rose Bride and her gem.

Otherwise, they'd have to wait until Anthy actually gets into the story before they could do anything!

-- Bob
---------------
Please to remember
Eleven September --
Hijack, destruction and plot.
Our outraged reaction
To terrorist action
Should never be forgot.

Careful, Bob. You're mixing up your metaconsciousness with my plotting crisis.

--G.
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Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

But they taste great together!

-- Bob
---------------
Please to remember
Eleven September --
Hijack, destruction and plot.
Our outraged reaction
To terrorist action
Should never be forgot.

Less Filling!

-Z

---
We are Dyslexic of Borg. Your ass will be laminated.

-Z

Bastards.

SHATTER

Blessed be.
Nathan Baxter
(Two minutes from being late!)

True, but mixing them like that creates a whole in the space time continum so large MY avatar can use it as a bloody portal! ^_^;

Thinking, though... If they use a rose, since its red, wouldn't that mean the rings don't work on the color green? (Since Green is the chromic opposite of red) Might explain Lisa da B developing a sudden intrest in Woodlands camoflauge gear. ^_^!

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Actually, this assumption is pretty much... well, wrong, but thanks for playing. Sure, the Society couldn't take on the whole Psi Corps; there are thousands of them. But they wouldn't all fit in Alden Hall.

I do wish you wouldn't use that "Thus have I spoken; Thus shall it be" tone when you're talking about something I'm designing. It confuses the boys 'n girls, and since the public assumes we have some kind of mind link, it makes me look like I changed my mind later on when I do things differently than you assumed I would.

--G.
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I know what has been planned - I helped plan that bit, if you recall.

I didn't say there wouldn't be any confrontation, I said they couldn't have a stand up battle against the corps. Small group action, smash and grab, etc, against a small group - sure. But they couldn't stand and fight for an extended period because the Corps would send in a large force and stomp anyone who opposed them.

>kind of mind link, it makes me look like I changed my mind later on
>when I do things differently than you assumed I would.

Not that you ever have changed your mind. ;-)

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Yeah, well, it helps when what I was thinking of doing before hasn't been presented to the public as inviolate fact.

--G.
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(gasp)

You mean you don't?

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net

I hope the hell not. Like I want to wake up one morning with a sudden fondness for Gundam Wing...

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::snarf::

ow... bastard...

<PS, GW wasn't horrible, it just wasn't memorable. Giant Robot Blow Shit Up filler is what it is. Pity it pretends to be more>

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Darkness beyond Twilight"

	-={(Astynax)}=- "Sometimes fanfic is a love letter to canon, sometimes it's a polite disagreement, and sometimes it's 95 things canon did wrong nailed to a door."

Um, and you'd get that from me exactly how?

Hell, I haven't gotten around to watching more than the first couple of episodes as of yet.

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Oh, that's right. You buy entire series you don't like. Mental lapse on my part.

--G.
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Well, I have seen bits of *most* of the things I buy. When I started buying GW I watched a couple of eps and thought it looked ok, and I was still employed so I kept buying it.

Sometime this week I'll probably be doing a massive eBay sale of VHS anime - and probably my Jeep on eBay motors.

Now, if we had a mind link maybe you'd pick up my fondness for terrible Hong Kong action movies like Butterfly and Sword. (I watched it tonight - Gryph was in the room at the time.) Ok, so the main appeal for me there was Michelle Yeoh.

(Sidenote from CNN just now - the location they are taking the WTC wreckage is the recently closed Fresh Kills Landfill. The commentator mentioned it was an unfortunate name - but 'Kills' is Dutch for 'stream'. Funny thing is I never really thought of the other meaning because the area of NY I grew up in had a bunch of such places, like Lisha Kill. I used to drive Lisha Kill Road a lot, and I've known the meaning for about as long as I can remember... Anyway I just tossed this in here since I was typing this message as I heard it.)

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(Shudder.)

>(Sidenote from CNN just now - the location they are taking the WTC
>wreckage is the recently closed Fresh Kills Landfill.

Yeah, I noticed that the other day, and had pretty much the same thought. "Gee, I bet most people don't know that's Dutch for 'creek'."

That opens up a whole different can of irony, the whole concept of "Fresh Creek Landfill", but...

--G.
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Going even further off topic, there was a brief movement by some ASPCA-types to rename the Fishkill to something else... Having gone to college in upstate NY, I was surrounded by rivers and streams named Postenkill, Thiskill or Thatkill, I thought it was both amusing and an incredible waste of time...

-Z
For the Revolution of the Landfill!

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We are Dyslexic of Borg. Your ass will be laminated.

-Z

Heh...

>college in upstate NY, I was surrounded by rivers and streams named
>Postenkill, Thiskill or Thatkill, I thought it was both amusing and an

Yeah, Postenkill...

Though I really like the idea of Thiskill and Thatkill.

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>Though I really like the idea of Thiskill and Thatkill.

During a day off from the conference, Kaitlyn and Juri take a drive up to Holland...

"Interesing names for things they have here"
"How do you mean?"
"I'd never have thought of naming a river 'Thiskill'"

...

-Z

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Hey, I didn't coin that one... the band in the cantina scene in Star Wars is, IIRC, described in the novelization as a jizz band. :)

>days later, my mind has now permenantly associated 'We Will Meet
>Again' to the scene of Utena's toast to Anthy,

Not a bad image, though to make it work as an in-story music cue, that scene would have had to be considerably longer, and contain a retrospective montage. :)

>It probably was helped that it had become my favorite song on the
>disc, and I've been playing it constantly since I picked it up, but it
>still fits to me.

Yeah... there are several songs on that album that have a spot someplace in the Symphony. The spot for "To Be Alive Again" hasn't come around yet, so the post of the lyrics was kind of a preview in itself. :) "Higher Place" appeared as incidental music in Wounded Rose, and will appear as incidental music again at least once, but it could also be a cue someplace. "World Gone Wild" is an image song for a place in the timeline I haven't reached yet. The rest of the album's too darn sappy to work with. :)

>Was curious if Dorothy has any interest in actually joining the IDS?

She can't - she can't get a weapons license because she's not a person.

--G.
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Hummm. One too many Tank Girl comics and one too few Star Wars novelizations I guess. :)

>>days later, my mind has now permenantly associated 'We Will Meet
>>Again' to the scene of Utena's toast to Anthy,
>
>Not a bad image, though to make it work as an in-story music cue, that
>scene would have had to be considerably longer, and contain a
>retrospective montage. :)

A fellow Real Genius fan and you think I'd have a problem with a good 'gettin' it together' montage? :) And that's why I quoted the one chorus, because it was the one that really struck home with the moment. A clip to fit the space.

>>It probably was helped that it had become my favorite song on the
>>disc, and I've been playing it constantly since I picked it up, but it
>>still fits to me.
>
>Yeah... there are several songs on that album that have a spot
>someplace in the Symphony. The spot for "To Be Alive Again"
>hasn't come around yet, so the post of the lyrics was kind of a
>preview in itself. :)

Upon first listening it struck me as the perfect end credit music to a good 80's teen buddy movie. I'm interested to see where it works in.

>"Higher Place" appeared as incidental music in
>Wounded Rose, and will appear as incidental music again at
>least once, but it could also be a cue someplace. "World Gone Wild"
>is an image song for a place in the timeline I haven't reached yet.
>The rest of the album's too darn sappy to work with. :)

It's not Duel music, no. :)

>>Was curious if Dorothy has any interest in actually joining the IDS?
>
>She can't - she can't get a weapons license because she's not a
>person.

Well, I'm assuming that that's going to take care of itself in one way or another. And the answer in another post about Dorothy's non-violence pretty much answers the rest of my question. At some point or another there's going to be an instance of Dorothy not having a proper authority at hand to deal with something. The mechanics of what it takes a person like that to cross that line is always an emotion packed moment of revelation, and it's one of the things I enjoy seeing build up, as stressful as it might be for the character. That she's now defined enough where I can maybe see a glimmer of that moment forming on the horizon is a very cool thing, I think.

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The montages in Real Genius weren't flashbacks, at least. :) (You may have noticed that the Symphony does not lack for Real Genius-style montages; heck, there are two in Wounded Rose alone. :)

>>The rest of the album's too darn sappy to work with. :)
>
>It's not Duel music, no. :)

Scoring battle scenes is harder than it looks... though I could actually see "Higher Place" working for a friendly duel - or, rather, given the song's tone, a duel between people who are somewhat more than friends, perhaps.

Yes. Definitely something to consider...

Oh I crash
And burn inside my mind
It happens time and time again
I can't explain the way you make me feel
Oh I know
I don't have much to give
But what I have I give to you
With all the madness left inside of me...

>Well, I'm assuming that that's going to take care of itself in one way
>or another. And the answer in another post about Dorothy's
>non-violence pretty much answers the rest of my question.

Mm, not necessarily. Dueling isn't necessarily "violence" in the same sense that busting some guy's head because he wasn't keeping his hands to himself is. In fact, when some pairs of characters do it, it's more like a dance. The expressiveness might appeal to her, once she has her feet a little more firmly under that whole "emotional feedback" thing...

All I can say is, keep an eye on her and see where she goes. :)

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No response, really, other than, while re-reading a few things the other night the following bit of twisted dialog popped into mind:

"C'mon, Kate, Miki invented a new virus and we're going to release it into Liza's room!"

It was probably due to everyone calling him 'Boy Genius' as of late. And lack of sleep on my part. :)

>Scoring battle scenes is harder than it looks... though I could
>actually see "Higher Place" working for a friendly duel - or,
>rather, given the song's tone, a duel between people who are somewhat
>more than friends, perhaps.
>
>Yes. Definitely something to consider...
>
>Oh I crash
>And burn inside my mind
>It happens time and time again
>I can't explain the way you make me feel
>Oh I know
>I don't have much to give
>But what I have I give to you
>With all the madness left inside of me...

I know -exactly- what you mean, if not the who (I have an idea, but I don't want to know, as the mental image is a good one and I'd prefer to coast with it a while even if I'm wrong). Indeed.

>Mm, not necessarily. Dueling isn't necessarily "violence" in the same
>sense that busting some guy's head because he wasn't keeping his hands
>to himself is. In fact, when some pairs of characters do it, it's
>more like a dance. The expressiveness might appeal to her, once she
>has her feet a little more firmly under that whole "emotional
>feedback" thing...
>
>All I can say is, keep an eye on her and see where she goes. :)

Ahhh, that was the clarification I was looking for. Thanks, and gotcha.

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Digital Bitch
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>No response, really, other than, while re-reading a few things the
>other night the following bit of twisted dialog popped into mind:
>
>"C'mon, Kate, Miki invented a new virus and we're going to release it
>into Liza's room!"

Bastard.

<SHATTER>

I can actually SEE IT IN MY HEAD NOW! Double Bastard!

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Geoff Depew - Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals
(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

Sheesh, you might as well at least share with the rest of the class. I won't comment one way or the other, so you keep your image. :)

--G.
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Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>>>Scoring battle scenes is harder than it looks... though I could
>>>actually see "Higher Place" working for a friendly duel - or,
>>>rather, given the song's tone, a duel between people who are somewhat
>>>more than friends, perhaps.
>>
>>I know -exactly- what you mean, if not the who (I have an idea, but I
>>don't want to know, as the mental image is a good one and I'd prefer
>>to coast with it a while even if I'm wrong). Indeed.
>
>Sheesh, you might as well at least share with the rest of the class.
>I won't comment one way or the other, so you keep your image. :)

Well, if you're going to be like that... :)

The very first image that came to mind was Kaitlyn and Juri, either after the ice is cracked, so to speak, or, even more intriguing, as the specific event that starts as a friendly duel and ends as a more-than-friendly duel. Maybe the latter is a little Top Gun-ish, but then I have a soft spot for moments like that, so sue me. :) <edit> Just dawned on me that going into a duel would also place Kate in 'combat mode', thus clearing out the stutter that's still pretty strong with Juri, and significantly bolstering her confidence. Hmmmmm, interesting... </edit>

(And, given the title of the next Entr'acte, insert said duel into some out of the way yet picturesque Paris spot--one of the boardwalks down below street level on the Seine after dark would be nice and pretty and out of the way enough to not draw too much attention, especially later at night. Refer to Woody Allen's Everyone Says I Love You, specifically the dance between Woody and Goldie Hawn towards the end in a similar spot. If you can stand Woody Allen movies, anyway. :)

Then, tonight whilst driving about in a fit of insomnia, I saw it with Amanda and Devlin instead. The new dynamic in their relationship combined with the fact that a duel with Devlin might be as good as foreplay for our favorite Gamilon Princess would make it a good match. :) Now that I think about it, though, is Devlin a duelist? I'm blanking if it was even mentioned now. Haven't seen him with a melee weapon, and I certainly doubt the PPG counts. It was a thought, anyway.

There, I shared, and I feel better now.

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Chad Collier
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