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Vehrec
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Apr-13-09, 11:42 PM (EDT) |
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"Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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I seem to recall, a long time ago, back almost four years ago now, that I saw a very upfront policy at UF of 'we will never have any Ranma or DBZ here'. Checking back now, it's still there on the 'Asuka Soryu-Langley Answers Your Rhetorical Questions' page. Now at the time, I thought nothing of it-everyone has their preferences and their opinions, and the creative staff can use whatever they like for their projects. But recently, thinking back on that made me realize that quite a bit of time had passed since both those series ground to a halt (excluding a certain live action movie). And a lot of new things have been birthed since then, some of which might be even worse in the opinions of the staff. So the question I want to ask is, has anything else joined them on the pile of things that are not appearing in, and never will appear in Undocumented Features or any other stories on this site? “Navigare Necesse Est”-'Get me out of here!' Group Captain Konstantin Vehrec |
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trigger
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Apr-13-09, 11:47 PM (EDT) |
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1. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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Who will never appear in UF? If I was to wildly speculate: Harry Dresden Arthur Wellesley Mercy Thompson Beowulf Mallorean Garion Frodo Locke Lamora John Lennon David Tennant (as himself) Barak Obama Prince Rurik of Ascalon well, that was fun. t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it.
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Wedge
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Apr-14-09, 02:46 AM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>David Tennant (as himself) >Barak Obama Bite your tongue! Barack Obama's one of Funkotron's greatest leaders. Right after David Tennant.
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trigger
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Apr-15-09, 04:59 PM (EDT) |
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11. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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> >>David Tennant (as himself) >>Barak Obama > >Bite your tongue! Barack Obama's one of Funkotron's greatest leaders. > >Right after David Tennant. *bow to the master* That is just beautiful. t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST |
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trigger
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Apr-15-09, 05:01 PM (EDT) |
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12. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>>Locke Lamora > >Who do you think stole the Stanley Cup? ...nice. I'd love to believe that. Of course to do it he'd need to pretend he was working for the team or one of the players before it vanished... And it means the Cup is probably lost for all time because when has Locke actually held on to the things he's tried to steal? t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST |
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Sofaspud
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Apr-14-09, 01:01 PM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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Bah. This question, it is too easy. Who will never appear in UF? -ME-. There, now that THAT's answered... In a more 'serious' vein (if that applies to this topic), I'd take a wild guess that Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter, won't be appearing in UF. Just... doesn't seem the type to be a good fit, y'know? :D --sofaspud --then again, The Flying Nun?!? |
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Gryphon
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Apr-14-09, 09:22 PM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>But recently, thinking back on that made me realize that >quite a bit of time had passed since both those series ground to a >halt (excluding a certain live action movie). And a lot of new things >have been birthed since then, some of which might be even worse in the >opinions of the staff. > >So the question I want to ask is, has anything else joined them on the >pile of things that are not appearing in, and never will appear in >Undocumented Features or any other stories on this site? This question is kind of a no-op from my perspective; it assumes I've been paying attention to more recent new developments to the extent of developing strong aversions, which is, in the main, not the case. Anyway, the rules against Ranma 1/2 and Dragonball were instituted in response to specific annoyances. In the case of Ranma, the main stimulus was the fact that, at the time the rule was formulated, almost everything else in the entire world of English-language fanfiction was based on it, and I got mightily tired of people coming to me with notions of how they could "correct" this obvious "oversight" in the structure of UF's source matrix. Dragonball's ban, similarly, was a direct result of people looking at the super-esper-martial-artist segment of the FI cast's population (or of Warrior's Legacy, back in the day) and assuming that I had just forgotten (or, more appallingly, intended to reformat various established characters into) the characters from Dragonball. Nothing newer has (so far) achieved the same sort of pernicious ubiquity in the EPU fandom's hive mind, and even if something did, I'd have to be familiar with it before I knew quite how bad the suggested course of action would be - which, statistically, grows less likely with each passing year. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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trigger
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Apr-15-09, 05:05 PM (EDT) |
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14. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>Nothing newer has (so far) achieved the same sort of pernicious >ubiquity in the >EPU fandom's hive mind, and even if something did, I'd have to be >familiar with it before I knew quite how bad the suggested course of >action would be - which, statistically, grows less likely with each >passing year. ...nothing new? Really? I know you've got a well crafted universe to work with and all but it shocks me a bit that the most contemporary addition to UF has been the introduction of "Wall-E" and before it "House". That's...well bad given the burst of new inspiration around 2005. yours, t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST |
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Vehrec
Member since Feb-21-09
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Apr-18-09, 00:40 AM (EDT) |
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21. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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Probably not. Thanks for your answer above, for what it's worth. For anyone who actually is interested, I'll throw together some very short summaries of these bits of fiction. Code Geass: Alternative history scenario anime with mecha, superpowers and Japan being conquered by a insane hybrid of Britain and the USA at their most imperialistic. Every character seems to have their own agenda, with varying degrees of success. Main character can mind control other people, uses this to try and overthrow the government of half the world. Honor Harrington: Sci-fi novels by an author who dislikes fanfiction and asks that it be kept far away from him. Feature a lot of space combat, interupted at the drop of a hat for a lecture on the history of hyperspace. Titular Captian, now Admiral is often critiqued as being a Mary-Sue with no real failings. Probably because the author can't characterize his way out of a paper bag. Fist of the North Star: Fighting Anime. About punching people until they explode in a post-apocalyptic world. FFVII: Final Fantasy with Dystopia, green terrorists and identity issues. Spawned a huge number of spin-offs and sequel/prequel games and media. FFX: Final Fantasy with Religion and an inability to distinguish between dreams of butterflies and realities of men. Or was that realities of butterflies and realities of men? FFX-2: Direct sequel to above, infamous for letting you switch character classes for three characters and giving them unique outfits for each one. Lead to it being considered Final Fantasy Dress-up. Command and Conquer Red Alert 2: Older RTS, over the top units, and a psychic who winds up being eaten by a T-rex when he steals a time Machine. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: There is no way to summarize the story of Haruhi Suzumiya, except to say that she is functionally a sleeping God being watched over by a normal human, an alien, a time traveler and an esper. Haruhi herself is completely unaware of the existence of aliens, time travelers and espers, but has created a school club dedicated to finding and having fun with them, because they are more interesting than normal humans. Contrary to her opinions, the club is a huge success at this, since almost none of the members are actually humans and they tend to have quite a lot of 'fun'. Available in novel, managa and anime formats, the Anime having blessed or cursed the world with the 'Hare Hare Yukai' dance, posted about 11,000 times on youtube. Your Millage May Vary.
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trigger
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Apr-16-09, 10:02 PM (EDT) |
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20. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>>I think you're taking that quoted paragraph out of context. I >>personally fail to see how anything newer failing to reach the same >>fever pitch of fan stupidity as Ranma or Dragonball is a >>bad thing. ;) > >Quite so. I should also note that I mainly had Asian animation in >mind when I formulated the remarks above. I haven't seen anything in >the Western-and/or-live-action aisle lately that I really wanted to >steal either, but at least I'm not actually avoiding new >developments in that part of the store, so to speak. both good points. I still can't believe DB is a movie. <shudder> I guess what I was remarking on is that the introduction of "new" source material has slackened slightly and that the only additions in the last two years that I've noticed were Wall-E and House. Not complaining - I'm in no hurry to see sparkly vampires in UF. Just thinking that its interesting what encourages us to write. Fan fiction is reflective of the things we get excited about. I guess as we grow older we should get less, um, fan-gurlish. But I'm finding plenty in my 30s to get excited about..that isn't incredibly stupid. Well, I hope my fandoms aren't. I'd hate to think I've started regressing already. Anyway off point. I've been avoiding the amine aisle because of the incredibly deluge of awful stuff coming from Japan. US animation isn't in much better shape. Case in point - I ran into the Spiderman voiced by NPH and was all happy until I realized it died after one season. In 2003. <sigh> t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST |
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Gryphon
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Apr-18-09, 00:43 AM (EDT) |
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22. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>I guess what I was remarking on is that the introduction of "new" >source material has slackened slightly and that the only additions in >the last two years that I've noticed were Wall-E and House.Off the top of my head, since the beginning of the year: - Atomic Robo - Our Man Flint (kind of) - Enemy Ace - Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds - John Carter of Mars (kind of) Going slightly further back, but still within your two-year timeframe, there's the Ultraman material in Silver Guardian and Code Name: Ultra, the Miami branch of CSI, a wadge of newly-adapted Macross material in the Sterling Saga mini-serials, The Stig... and that's not touching on the original inventions, like the Edisonoid in Atomic Robo Hails a Taxi, the Sterling sisters who aren't from Macross, the Grushkaani over in The Fulcrum of Fate, and almost everyone in Get Carter. It's been a slow couple of years, compared to the salad days of the early Symphonies (I still can't quite believe how much of that came out in a single year), but I don't think we've been as dead as all that. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gulping Again
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Apr-18-09, 01:54 AM (EDT) |
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23. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>>I guess what I was remarking on is that the introduction of "new" >>source material has slackened slightly and that the only additions in >>the last two years that I've noticed were Wall-E and House. > >Off the top of my head, since the beginning of the year: > > - Atomic Robo > - Our Man Flint (kind of) > - Enemy Ace > - Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of The War of the Worlds > - John Carter of Mars (kind of) > >Going slightly further back, but still within your two-year timeframe, >there's the Ultraman material in Silver Guardian and Code >Name: Ultra, the Miami branch of CSI, a wadge of >newly-adapted Macross material in the Sterling Saga >mini-serials, The Stig... and that's not touching on the original >inventions, like the Edisonoid in Atomic Robo Hails a Taxi, the >Sterling sisters who aren't from Macross, the Grushkaani >over in The Fulcrum of Fate, and almost everyone in Get >Carter. > >It's been a slow couple of years, compared to the salad days of the >early Symphonies (I still can't quite believe how much of that came >out in a single year), but I don't think we've been as dead as all >that. :) > >--G. Yeah, but you're not exactly thriving, either. Just been too busy with other crap recently? |
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trigger
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Apr-18-09, 01:08 PM (EDT) |
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25. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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> >It's been a slow couple of years, compared to the salad days of the >early Symphonies (I still can't quite believe how much of that came >out in a single year), but I don't think we've been as dead as all >that. :) those are excellent points...and a lot of stuff. I guess this means I've lost my rabid fan-girl badge. :( I guess I'll spend some this weekend re-reading the Forum material.... thanks for answering! t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it.
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Mephron
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Apr-18-09, 07:01 PM (EDT) |
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27. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>Well that all depends. How many unmarked references have you found in >UF stories? I found a One Piece reference back in 'Bacon Comics >Special Assignment Vol. 1 No. 74: "A Certain Obligation"' Where the >second enemy in the series, one Marine Captain "Axe-Hand" Morgan, >appears as one of the Commer Trueborn. This is the only OP ref in all >of UF, as far as I can tell. And entirely unplanned, I assure you as the writer of the story in question. I've seen about two episodes of One Piece in my life, and that wasn't supposed to be one. It was more aligned with the Freakshow in City of Heroes, who are cyborgs with body replacements including removing their hands and replacing them with axes, maces, hammers and the occational Very Large Gun. But, uh, no, no, not a deliberate One Piece reference. (If they used the original opening, maybe, but that crap they used drove me to turn it off, unfortunately. It really looks like something I could like! I just can't deal with the opening and the really not-very-good dubbing.) -- Geoff Depew - Darth Mephron Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support. "And Remember! Google is your Friend!!" |
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Gryphon
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Apr-18-09, 08:29 PM (EDT) |
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28. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>>Well that all depends. How many unmarked references have you found in >>UF stories? I found a One Piece reference > >And entirely unplanned, I assure you as the writer of the story >in question.N.B. This kind of thing happens fairly often; people will see what they expect sometimes, whether it's really there or not. :) Also note that there is a submerged reference to something else in that same sequence; one of those guys is based on the KGBeast. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gulping Again
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Apr-18-09, 10:11 PM (EDT) |
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29. "RE: Who else will NOT be appearing in UF?"
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>>Well that all depends. How many unmarked references have you found in >>UF stories? I found a One Piece reference back in 'Bacon Comics >>Special Assignment Vol. 1 No. 74: "A Certain Obligation"' Where the >>second enemy in the series, one Marine Captain "Axe-Hand" Morgan, >>appears as one of the Commer Trueborn. This is the only OP ref in all >>of UF, as far as I can tell. > >And entirely unplanned, I assure you as the writer of the story >in question. I've seen about two episodes of One Piece in my life, >and that wasn't supposed to be one. It was more aligned with the >Freakshow in City of Heroes, who are cyborgs with body replacements >including removing their hands and replacing them with axes, maces, >hammers and the occational Very Large Gun. > >But, uh, no, no, not a deliberate One Piece reference. (If they used >the original opening, maybe, but that crap they used drove me to turn >it off, unfortunately. It really looks like something I could like! I >just can't deal with the opening and the really not-very-good >dubbing.) > >-- >Geoff Depew - Darth Mephron Huh. http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/4/09/ Could have fooled me. Also, the license for the anime passed from 4kids to Funimation like, a couple years back, so it's gotten way better (not that such a thing would be hard). Personally, I just read the manga. |
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