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"CSI Rocks!"
 
   Well, this was a real fun ride. And it really felt an awful lot like an episode of CSI - bravo! I'm too tired to go into details, but I do have to ask one thing: Is Catherine related to Imra at all?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: CSI Rocks! Gryphonadmin Apr-24-04 1
  RE: CSI Rocks! JeanneHedge Apr-24-04 2
     RE: CSI Rocks! Gryphonadmin Apr-24-04 3
         RE: CSI Rocks! BLUE Apr-24-04 4
         RE: CSI Rocks! JeanneHedge Apr-24-04 5
             RE: CSI Rocks! Star Ranger4 Apr-25-04 6
                 RE: CSI Rocks! MoonEyes Apr-25-04 7

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Gryphonadmin
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1. "RE: CSI Rocks!"
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   >Is Catherine related to Imra at all?

Good eye; they're cousins of some reasonably distant variety or another.

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JeanneHedge
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2. "RE: CSI Rocks!"
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   I was also going to ask about Catherine and Imra, so instead I'll ask if Major Thomas Boothroyd, the International Police Armorer, is a transplanted (transfictional? borrowed?) version of Major (no first name given) Boothroyd, more commonly known as "Q", of MI6 in the James Bond universe? Or perhaps a descendent? Whichever, it was nice seeing that attitude again ^_^


btw - on the Chronology page, this story is listed in the correct location, but the dates given are wrong - it says 2409 while the story itself says 2410.

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Gryphonadmin
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3. "RE: CSI Rocks!"
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   >I was also going to ask about Catherine and Imra, so instead I'll ask
>if Major Thomas Boothroyd, the International Police Armorer, is a
>transplanted (transfictional? borrowed?) version of Major (no first
>name given) Boothroyd, more commonly known as "Q", of MI6 in the James
>Bond universe?

Well... no, not quite.

You see, to me, Major Boothroyd and Q aren't the same character. Our Major Boothroyd is based on Peter Burton's character, Major Boothroyd the Armorer, from Doctor No. He's such a different character from Desmond Llewelyn's Q (first seen in From Russia with Love) that I've never quite been able to buy the idea that they're supposed to be the same person. Q is a finicky gadgeteer; Major Boothroyd's a gun snob. You never see Q do anything with normal weapons, it's always exploding laser watches and stuff. It's Major Boothroyd who sneeringly dismisses 007's Beretta as a ladies' gun and (with, er, slight hyperbole, I should think) describes the Walther PPK as having "delivery like a brick through a plate glass window."

I admit that our Major Boothroyd's irritation at not getting stuff back from the field agents is a very Q-like trait, but all the same, I think of them as separate characters. Which isn't to say that Q doesn't work somewhere in the building, but Sara Sidle generally doesn't have much need for exploding laser watches. (At least not at work. Who knows what she does on her days off?)

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4. "RE: CSI Rocks!"
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   >but Sara Sidle generally
>doesn't have much need for exploding laser watches. (At least not at
>work. Who knows what she does on her days off?)
>

Uh, probably prints her entire apartment building, or the crime lab, or Gryphon's house...

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5. "RE: CSI Rocks!"
In response to message #3
 
   >>I was also going to ask about Catherine and Imra, so instead I'll ask
>>if Major Thomas Boothroyd, the International Police Armorer, is a
>>transplanted (transfictional? borrowed?) version of Major (no first
>>name given) Boothroyd, more commonly known as "Q", of MI6 in the James
>>Bond universe?
>
>Well... no, not quite.
>
>You see, to me, Major Boothroyd and Q aren't the same character. Our
>Major Boothroyd is based on Peter Burton's character, Major Boothroyd
>the Armorer, from Doctor No.

I think I understand what you're saying - it *is* Bond's Q (Boothroyd, "Q" being the armorer's designation, as the chief is designated "M"), but it's Q-by-Burton, not Q-by-Llewellyn. A more well known example of something similar would be how people favor different actor portrayals of Bond himself - same character, yet each actor plays him differently.


trivia - "Major Boothroyd" is named in honor of Major Geoffrey Boothroyd, who advised Ian Fleming on Bond's weapons?


>He's such a different character
>from Desmond Llewelyn's Q (first seen in From Russia with Love)
>that I've never quite been able to buy the idea that they're supposed
>to be the same person. Q is a finicky gadgeteer; Major Boothroyd's a
>gun snob. You never see Q do anything with normal weapons, it's
>always exploding laser watches and stuff. It's Major Boothroyd who
>sneeringly dismisses 007's Beretta as a ladies' gun and (with, er,
>slight hyperbole, I should think) describes the Walther PPK as having
>"delivery like a brick through a plate glass window."

I think Q-by-Llewellyn was played fairly straight in his first movie or two too. I didn't find Q's gadgets getting obnoxiously silly until the Moore era, when the entire franchise got silly.

Of course, now there's Q-by-John Cleese, but that Q most definitely isn't Major Boothroyd, being that he's a different character (as has happened over the year's with "M" - 3 different characters by 3 different actors, but not with Moneypenny - 1 character, 3 different actresses)


>I admit that our Major Boothroyd's irritation at not getting stuff
>back from the field agents is a very Q-like trait, but all the same, I
>think of them as separate characters. Which isn't to say that Q
>doesn't work somewhere in the building, but Sara Sidle generally
>doesn't have much need for exploding laser watches. (At least not at
>work. Who knows what she does on her days off?)

Fingerprints bathroom ceilings? :)


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6. "RE: CSI Rocks!"
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   >trivia - "Major Boothroyd" is named in honor of Major Geoffrey
>Boothroyd, who advised Ian Fleming on Bond's weapons?
>
Funny, theres also an attribution that a Thomas Boothroyd was the one who invented the brittish Q ships used in WW 1 and 2... Which is who I thought Ian had given a nod to in naming Q Boothroyd.


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7. "RE: CSI Rocks!"
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   >Funny, theres also an attribution that a Thomas Boothroyd was the one
>who invented the brittish Q ships used in WW 1 and 2... Which is who
>I thought Ian had given a nod to in naming Q Boothroyd.

Nope, Q is indeed named after the aforementioned Geoffrey Boothroyd. They
have the same first name, too, as I remember, but on this I am unsure. But the movie character is based on Flemings advisor. And, as an aside, Q is for eQuipment branch. Q, as such, is only the head of said branch.

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