>>... first segment just went up.
>
>Since when are you in Marlborough, Gryph?

I wrote the introduction at work, and automatically put down where I was at the time.

>I am still amused by the baseball, I have to wonder how much of that
>is a direct result of Truss and me watching RedSox games while you
>write. (Must get a Varitek jersey.)

A direct result, I'm not sure. Indirectly, I blame the drugs I was on in California for altering my brain chemistry so that I like baseball in the first place. I hated it when I was a kid.

--G.
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You have to love it. In the state that is the heart of Eyrie, you have a professional athelete named Varitek. Better yet, he plays the only position in his sport that requires one to fold up into Gerwalk mode.

... Eh?

>Mmmm.... Baseball.

I've liked baseball for several years now; I think this is the first opportunity I've ever had to do much with it.

(By the way, in case anyone is curious: Yes, Coco Martinez is a distant descendent of Pedro Martinez.)

>Saionji seems to have bitten off more than he can chew, unless he's a
>member of the Q Continuum or something.

Well, he didn't really bite it off so much as have it shoved in his mouth, but... well, that would be telling. :)

--G.
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I'll take that as a no. Laurence. Archangel of....

Polychrome

Oh. I thought you were talking about Larry Mann.

No, UF isn't an In Nomine-styled universe, particularly. If there is such a being as Laurence, he's probably just an aspect of Tyr Grimjaws, god of war. The arc title is just a reference to Kate's two main hobbies. :)

--G.
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Me too.

Speaking of R-Type, does he have anything planned or plotted for after TWILIGHT?

Maybe it's just me, but I'd love to see Redneck & R-Type in a buddy movie type story. Redneck did Die Hardly, and that was a hoot, so maybe we need to see something inspired (very loosely) by Lethal Weapon or somesuch.

Oh, I finally saw Gunsmith Cats (or is it Gun Smith Cats?), and William Collins is my hero. There were only the three episodes made, right? Is there a Manga?

-
The web is still broken. <blink> works.

Yes, only three episodes of the anime and 19 or 20 volumes of the manga. But I've heard that some new GSC stuff is in the works.

Benjamin Brill
who lives near one of the (former) largest cities of the world and is still as far away from civilisation as Tatooine.

Don't be doing that... Don't make me have to go edit the DCF code to block blink, I have too much to do.

I appreciate the sentiment, but I'd rather not have thinks blinking on the forums...

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I love it! Classic UF flavor with a hint of new-age that comes with the future imperfect connection! wOOt!

Very well written. Out of all the books I must have read in the past 15 years I have yet to even see anyone attempt the creation of character that embodies Kate.

Excellent! As usual, it was SO worth the wait. I can't wait for the next part of the series!! :)

-Malis out

Er well... I'm not sure I'd go that far, but I thank you, and Kate thanks you, all the same. :)

--G.
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EPU. Not just fiction. Addiction.

-- Sean --
and now I find out that Zoner is also what's holding up UF:FI: Twilight ;-P
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Sshhh! You actually want to discourage the release of new UF material, for whatever reason?? Infidel! ^_^

-
This is not the signature.

You (and, seemingly, everyone else) are incorrectly assuming that Twilight is being held up by a segment that Gryph has control over... when, in fact, the culprit is one of the other Twilight authors.

--truss.
(One word, rhymes with "FetaPhone".)

OH, is it just hung up on me now? Sorry... I'll get on it.

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<shatter>

-- Juniper
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"Fac me cocleario vomere!"
--Onatah, on NE:CiF MUSH

Yeah... I ran into that full-force last night while working on a sequence for A Rose at Christmas. There's really only so much you can do in ASCII before it becomes as hard to read as it is to understand hearing it, which, while possibly an effective display of the problem, isn't much fun for the reader. (And it's hard to type, too.)

But I'll muddle on as best I can...

>> a mental feeling rather like the sound a carbonated beverage makes when the
>> last of the foam has gone
>
>This is the single weirdest metaphor I've ever encountered outside the
>works of Terry Pratchett. WTF???
>

Actually, it's a simile, not a metaphor, but... I rather like it. That little shivery sound a soda makes when the fizz breaks is just like the thing my mind does when it finally starts working in the morning... :)

>Descriptions in prose of musical performances have yet to do anything
>for me,

I have a tough time writing them, too, trying to give them that dynamic feeling. I'm reasonably pleased with the way the ones in Wounded Rose came out, though, and it's not as though I could leave them out in this case.

>So, what did the originsl AON do aside from "In Visible Silence"? I
>haven't seen any of their stuff anywhere for years.

Not all that much. Aside from the various compilations (Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise?, The Best of the Art of Noise), they had one other album that I can think of (In No Sense? Nonsense!). They also did the theme for the 1985 Dragnet movie, the version of "Peter Gunn" that was used in Cool World, that one song with Max Headroom...

--G.
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There are also 3 albums of remixed Art of Noise tracks: The Ambient Collection, the FON mixes, containing the Prodigy mix of Instruments of Darkness , and the Drum and Bass collection, which is OK if you like spazzy synth-drums over everything.

-jer, Art of Noise fanboy

--
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...and damn do I love Kaitlyn. But her stuttering brings up a bit about Detians for me-- if the Detian body is basically damn near perfect, how is it that Kate has a speech impediment? Or is it largely psychological? (I don't know a heck of a lot about stuttering, despite having some amusing speech issues of my own. Bear with me...)

Bring on more Corwin. Bring on the other two brothers and Priss, too. :)

Ardie
who was uber-depressed not 10 minutes before checking "What's New" today. don't be a disabled dot-commie in this Valley, it blows.

Ard Sumhenner
Ronin Research, Silicon Valley, CA

Actually, I was wondering just the other day what happened to you.

-- Sean --
who, for personal reasons too long to explain here, finds it vastly amusing that one of Gryph's UF kids is named "Corwin Ravenhair"
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I am yet still about. Been, uh, just too overwhelmed by the sheer volume of forumage to contribute.

that, and working on my own shit. and not having a job/ having eye issues (I get laser surgery in September, w00t!). and playing the AI the Movie game. and editing friends' fics. and trying to keep up some journaling and whatnot.

And I want to see more Corwin. Definitely.

Ard Sumhenner
Ronin Research, Silicon Valley, CA

Oh, you will. He's extremely important to the Symphony. The others, not so much, though they'll appear off and on since they're part of Kate's family; but Corwin is the one she's closest to, and his arc with her roommate is developing into something quite fascinating.

--G.
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Polychrome

Perhaps. Corwin is only named after Prince Corwin of Amber - he's not supposed to be the same character. (He does have the same favorite colors, but that's a reference, not a borrowed trait. :)

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Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

Very good, you've been paying attention. ;-)

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Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

Heh. My first thought when I read that last name was "Oh, my (goddess)."

Zack Seaholm - Anime fan, weathernut, worshipper of the goddess Belldandy.

Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

Ask Gryph about what he left out of Corwin's description ^_^.

-- Sean --
who finds the whole thing immensely amusing
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Or just reread the last twelve paragraphs (which have been updated to fix that omission).

--truss.

Really? Gryph finally abandoned that "when it's posted, it's posted" moral high ground? *goes to look* So he did. Wow.

-- Sean --

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Oh, he's done the Stalinization thing before. But he only does it in cases where it bothers him.

He's the line editor, he gets to make up his own rules. :)

--truss.

No - it didn't get posted to RAAC before he caught it. ;-)

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Psst... Zoner... we have a web site. ;)

--truss.

Look, I'm *rules lawyering* here...

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Then try this: It's a correction, not a revision. The occasions posters may be thinking of where I've resisted altering a piece after it's gone up have been after suggestions of changes in structure. This is the equivalent of JMS dubbing out the fuck-up in the location of the Jack the Ripper murders in that one episode of Babylon 5.

--G.
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Nobody really knows why Kate stutters. Theories range from "it's all in her head" to "something to do with the assassination attempt on her mother a couple weeks before she was born". Investigations have been made, but haven't turned up anything. We'll also see in the next episode that there's another special condition under which she doesn't do it, which lends credence to the psychological theory.

(I'm not eager to define it fully myself; it's a trait that the character came to me having, and I don't really feel the need to nail it down much beyond that. If I had to make a guess, though, I'd say it's a combination of several factors, psychology among them. It does get worse when she's under stress, except in the case of extreme anger, where it goes away entirely.)

As for Detian physiology, it's kind of odd, especially in second and subsequent generations. When we first meet her in Wounded Rose, Kaitlyn isn't a regenerative immortal yet; she hasn't finished growing, and in born Detians (as opposed to made ones), that's when it "locks in", if you will. That's why she needs glasses; that need will probably go away when she reaches adulthood and "freezes".

>Bring on more Corwin. Bring on the other two brothers and Priss, too.

They'll all be in A Rose at Christmas, and Sylv too - fun for the whole family.

--G.
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Hmm... Does this mean then that "born" Detians are vulnerable to injury and death until adulthood?

Yes, although there's a good chance that a mortal wound or illness will cause the aging freeze to kick in and induce regeneration prematurely. Usually that's not a problem, since normal Detians can then age forward and back to their freezing point at will; but in a small number of cases the trauma leads to Edgerton's Syndrome, a total premature aging freeze, which traps the victim at whatever age it struck them. Which is generally a lot of no fun.

--G.
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Man, I can see folks with certain kinks trying to induce that...

"No officer I am *NOT* underage - I'm 237! I only *look* 13!"

> but in a
>small number of cases the trauma leads to Edgerton's Syndrome, a total
>premature aging freeze, which traps the victim at whatever age it
>struck them. Which is generally a lot of no fun.

You end up like that kid in the one Bebop episode...

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-={(Astynax)}=-
"Darkness beyond Twilight"

But then I wouldn't be able to make stuff up arbitrarily later on without some statistics-quoting yobbo getting on my case about the Reference Guide, and where's the fun in tha'?

><On a side note, does it amaze anyone else how Gryph answered that
>without skipping a beat?>

(shrug) I'd already developed Edgerton's - there's a character in a mostly-complete-but-behind-other-things-in-the-release-queue story who suffers from it.

--G.
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Trekkies' Disease ::shudder::

>><On a side note, does it amaze anyone else how Gryph answered that
>>without skipping a beat?>
>
>(shrug) I'd already developed Edgerton's - there's a character in a
>mostly-complete-but-behind-other-things-in-the-release-queue story who
>suffers from it.
>

hehe, you should've just let that slide instead of explaining it, would've been more 'Great and Powerful Oz' like that way <OK, sue me, I've spent too much time working the help desk and cultivating a 'font of all knowledge' persona... if the various users realized how simple most things really were, tech support people the world over would be out of jobs;) >

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Darkness beyond Twilight"

Unlikely - you underestimate the power of stupidity.

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And the inability to grok.

To most people, even those who are fairly competent in very narrow areas of computing, computers as a whole are scary and intimidating, and they're afraid of making a mistake. Then there's people who don't know nearly as much as they think they do, who are even worse. I'd rather have to deal with timidity due to ignorance rather than brazenness formed from idiocy any day.

For example, my sister is reasonably computer-literate in a few narrow areas. She can do far more with MS Excel and Word than I've ever bothered to learn, and she can navigate the web reasonably well, and can find how to access a program so long as it's either in the start menu or on her desktop. But she was scared sh!tless to try to install additional RAM in her laptop, even when I offered to talk her through it over the phone, and insisted that I do it when I came down. (Took me ten seconds.) Forget trying to troubleshoot i-net problems over the phone, or talking her through configuring a dialer. So I wind up just doing things the easier way (i.e., spend fifteen minutes in front of her laptop whenever I'm in town to fix any problems she might or might not be aware of).

Then there's my grandfather, who's a WPI alumnus and worked as an electrical engineer for about fifty years. He was on the team that installed and ran the first computer ever in Wappingers Falls, NY. But modern computers are so different from what he knew that he has problems even connecting to get his email. (I had a promise forcibly extracted by my uncle that after I move to GSO, at my earliest convenience I'd drive down to my grandfather's house near Charlotte and make his life easier.)

So there'll always be a spot for tech support, and as computers get more complicated, there'll be more room.

-- Sean --

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Sounds like me... except that I know I could figure it out if I wasn't so lazy.
Generally either bug someone about it (and they're probably on this forum) for detailed instructions to jot down on the back of a busticket or just forget it as it wasn't important anyway.

>Then there's my grandfather, who's a WPI alumnus and worked as an
>electrical engineer for about fifty years. He was on the team that
>installed and ran the first computer ever in Wappingers Falls, NY.
>But modern computers are so different from what he knew that he has
>problems even connecting to get his email. (I had a promise forcibly
>extracted by my uncle that after I move to GSO, at my earliest
>convenience I'd drive down to my grandfather's house near Charlotte
>and make his life easier.)
>

Oh gods! The time it took to explain 'Save As' on Windows to my mother... who earned a BSci in computers in 1973. Or the wonders of 'cut&paste' from her email onto wordpad and saving to a floppy. I think she still uses my handwritten notes as a guide today.

drakensisthered

>
>-- Sean --
>
>http://www.thebrokenlink.org The
>Broken Link 4.0 is live!
>"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
>"It's not easy being green." -- Kermit the Frog

Wow, a known fellow Eyrie fan within shouting distance. That'll be a new experience. Let me be the first to welcome you to Greensboro, All-America City, 1991, and general bastion of vast boredom B-)

TRB

"I wish I was reaper, culling lost souls. I wish I could cast them into deep and lonely holes."

*laugh* Say, if you know anyone who's looking for a random techie -- I'll do tech support, hardware tech, and I'll try just about anything -- drop me a line.

As for boredom? After knocking around there on vacations to see family, I have to say it'll be an improvement over the Lehigh Valley. And, for being in the South, it's not all that Southern, culturally. (Get much outside of it and that changes, but, oh well.)

-- Sean --

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Let me know where in Greensboro, and I can throw a stone your way. I'm in Morrisville, the city that might as well give up and be absorbed by Raleigh, Durham, or Cary.

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Whoa! What IS it?!

Is that why you decided to deep-six the Tech Reference rather than updating it?

(grin)

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net

I removed it because it had become horribly out of step with developments. I decided not to update it and put it back merely because I haven't got round to bothering yet; I'd rather focus on things that have characters. :)

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Only three?

-- Sean --
who is waiting for WL5, HL5, NXE: TMP, UF:FI:Twilight, and now SOS...
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Yes, definately eager to see ANY update to ANY arc. They're all great.
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Offsides

#include <drool.h>

I was wondering if I was the only one who did that.

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net

I am frequently Just That Lazy, also. :)

Ard Sumhenner
Ronin Research, Silicon Valley, CA

So now where do we go from here? ::shivers from Eyrie withdrawl::

-Malis out

Oh wait! Hey Gryph mind if I yank the Evangelion logo off the website and have it done on a hat? :)

Not lazy, just efficient. I have to go through one other page to get here from the main page anyway. It might as well be "What's New". Kills two birds with one stone.

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net

Exactly! Besides, even if new fic isn't available, there might be a new hat on the griffon.

Speaking of the new fic, very good. I've happily devoured the Utena story, and started re-watching it from the beginning - where I then started yelling in surprise about how much they give away from the beginning, but you just don't realize that they are.

-john, humorless toad
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-Victor Borge

No way... I'd prefer my kids to get along with each other, and not conspire to kill me. :)

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Although that would be an extremely interesting story line. Lot's of family angst and stuff. And almost always a lose/lose conflict. I think it would fit right in with a lot of the exile stuff. Perhaps a child inadvertantly fathered by Gryphon during that time period. One he never knew about, and who wasn't real hapy about finding out he/she was immortal? (Mother, siblings, etc. growing old and dying while they stayed young. Maybe even a failed suicide attemp or two?) I would love a story line like that.

Frank

I'm not entirely sure the Detian race as a whole doesn't keep an eye out for stray Detians coming into their abilities to give them an understanding of what's happening to them.

Plus, I tend to suspect that anyone Gryphon was sufficiently interested in to sleep with would also get told that he was indeed THAT Benjamin D. Hutchins, who's been around forever and ever, etc. But, who knows.

Ard

Ard Sumhenner
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I wouldn't. Blech.

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Heh heh... you'll probably regret having asked this. I did. :}

--truss.

Oh, probably.

>How would someone handle "R U a girl??"?

In this case, by claiming that "Utena" is Keltarian for "Crusher". :)

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Hmm, did you drop her name? Maybe you should - then see who laughs and who needs an explanation. :-)

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No, I haven't mentioned a thing about her yet. Probably in A Rose at Christmas.

Or I could drop it here.

Oh, what the hell. Kaitlyn's freshman-year roommate, who lasted precisely one and one-fourth terms, was named Hiroe Ogawa.

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Looks like I'll have to wait on that one, then. I'm not an anime fan (I got into UF through Chris Meadows' Misfold, having been a Robotech fan in my youth).

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net

Well I AM an anime fan and I've got absolutely no idea where she come from. I only know it's a girl from other posts here.

A casual Google search for "Hiroe Ogawa" answers the question rather quickly. :)

I also had no clue until I did that. If Gryph were to write *that* story, would there be an installation of an 18 or older/may not be legal in your state/country/province warning page on Eyrie? :)

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