Speaking of GweepNet BBS traditions I forgot when I created the boards, I left out the freaking introductions area! How clumsy and stupid of me.

Anyway, I'm Gryphon. If you're here on the EPU message boards, chances are you know more about me than I have the energy to type right now anyway.

--G.
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Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>Anyway, I'm Gryphon.

Hi Gryphon! :-)

I'm MegaZone, 3rd member of Eyrie Productions.

I'm having a pretty shitting week(end), so I don't feel like saying too much about myself right now. Besides, if you're here you probably know it all already.

My unkempt website is http://www.megazone.org/

-MegaZone, megazone@megazone.org
Personal Homepage http://www.megazone.org/
Eyrie Productions FanFic http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

Hi, I'm Astynax <pronounced 'as-TIE-naks', yes, it's unintuitive, but it's my nick damnit! ;) >. I'm a relatively new, though already addicted, Eyrie fanboy <though I prefer fan-man, thank you very much;) >. Those who've been here since I first showed up, or on the IRC server, probably refer to me as "that annoying guy who will NOT shut up."

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Is he done yet?"

>Hi, I'm Astynax <pronounced 'as-TIE-naks', yes, it's unintuitive, but
>it's my nick damnit! ;) >. I'm a relatively new, though already
>addicted, Eyrie fanboy <though I prefer fan-man, thank you very much;)
>>. Those who've been here since I first showed up, or on the IRC
>server, probably refer to me as "that annoying guy who will NOT shut
>up."

Or, with shudderings and crossings of ourselves, as "He Who Does Not Like Cowboy Bebop".

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>Or, with shudderings and crossings of ourselves, as "He Who Does Not
>Like Cowboy Bebop".
>

That's one of those little conversations that somehow generate their own life force, isn't it? :)

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Shuddering at the mention of the Unmentionable Show"

>>Or, with shudderings and crossings of ourselves, as "He Who Does Not
>>Like Cowboy Bebop".
>>
>
>That's one of those little conversations that somehow generate their
>own life force, isn't it? :)
>
>-={(Astynax)}=-
>"Shuddering at the mention of the Unmentionable Show"

Okay, what's wrong with Cowboy Bebop?

The First Foundation was only the beginning.

> I'm a relatively new, though already addicted, Eyrie fanboy
> <though I prefer fan-man, thank you very much;)

Well, I'm not so new, but I'd wager just-as-addicted fanboy (-man, -thing...whatever :)

I mostly hang out, and try not to annoy the Admins/Editors/People-in-charge too much...sometimes I even succeed (in not annyoing them).

Other than that, I'm probably right in the middle of the demographic for readers of Eyrie (do we HAVE an official demographic?). Computer gnurd, gamer, anime freak...yeah, that's a reasonable over-simplification...

>Hi, I'm Astynax <pronounced 'as-TIE-naks', yes, it's unintuitive, but
>it's my nick damnit! ;) >. I'm a relatively new, though already
>addicted, Eyrie fanboy <though I prefer fan-man, thank you very much;)
>>. Those who've been here since I first showed up, or on the IRC
>server, probably refer to me as "that annoying guy who will NOT shut
>up."
>
>-={(Astynax)}=-
>"Is he done yet?"

Kind of sounds like what people will be saying about me eventually.

The First Foundation was only the beginning.

Hello, I'm Mr. Fnord, and I don't exist.

Don't you feel foolish reading a message from a fictional person?

--The little man who isn't there.

LAST EDITED ON Apr-29-01 AT 09:01 PM (EDT)

>Hello, I'm Mr. Fnord, and I don't exist.
>
>Don't you feel foolish reading a message from a fictional person?

Not really. I get them in my mind all the time.

--G.
["Mr. Director, it's Dorothy Wayneright on Line 2." "Tell her to hold, I'm still on with M. Bison."]
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

"Mr. Director, it's Dorothy Wayneright on Line 2." "Tell her to hold, I'm still on with M. Bison."

Your mind must be an interesting place to visit for about three seconds, before the telepath in question goes barking mad.

(Of course, I once had two characters have a lover's quarrel in my head while I was trying to write a scene. And when it was a love scene with the two characters, well, that got REALLY bizarre. So I shouldn't talk)

--
Geoff Depew - Mephron
"Big O! Showtime!"

>"Mr. Director, it's Dorothy Wayneright on Line 2." "Tell her to hold,
>I'm still on with M. Bison."
>
>Your mind must be an interesting place to visit for about three
>seconds, before the telepath in question goes barking mad.

Hrmm. The only part that's really semi-disturbing is that he's leaving Dorothy on hold for M. Bison. What's up with that?

---------------------------------------
"You're a louse, Benjamin D. Hutchins."
---------------------------------------
Chad Collier
Digital Bitch
J. Random VFX Company

>Hrmm. The only part that's really semi-disturbing is that he's
>leaving Dorothy on hold for M. Bison. What's up with that?

That's an unfavorable situation either way, but believe it or not, Dorothy is more easily placated. Unlike M. Bison, she doesn't believe in interpersonal violence as a stress reliever. :)

>---------------------------------------
>"You're a louse, Benjamin D. Hutchins."
>---------------------------------------

Zank you. I be here all ze veek.

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

Greetings!

I'm wxnut (the wx is shorthand for weather). I've been a fan of Eyrie Productions for about 8 years now.

If you're in the chat room, I'm the one in the corner generally keeping to himself. :)

Zack Seaholm - Anime fan, weathernut, worshipper of the goddess Belldandy.

Heya... Bob Schroeck, here, known as "he who hasn't seen 'Cowboy Bebop' but is vaguely interested in it because he's heard a few cool things about it, but can't convince the wife to add it to the list of must-try anime yet". Seriously, I discovered Eyrie's stuff when I stumbled onto HL and then UF, geeze, I guess about five years ago, but I only started to get *really* into it when I finally decided to read NXE last year right after Gryphon posted that meta-meta-continuity chat between himself and DJ Croft. (I figured anything that spawned something *that* odd had to be worth a look.) That, plus "Gods Willing II," dropped me firmly into the EPU fancamp. I'm a writer myself, too -- both pro and fan.

-- Bob

>Heya... Bob Schroeck, here, known as "he who hasn't seen 'Cowboy

>Willing II," dropped me firmly into the EPU fancamp. I'm a writer
>myself, too -- both pro and fan.

Schroeck... Schroeck... sounds kinda familiar...

*ding!*

Drunkard's Walk! Yes?

Coolness... two of my three favorite fanfic (or something... ;) authors in one place.

Anyway. Hi. ;) Glad to see a familiar, er, face (well, you know what I mean.:)

--sofaspud
--

>Schroeck... Schroeck... sounds kinda familiar...
>*ding!*
>Drunkard's Walk! Yes?

Right!

>Coolness... two of my three favorite fanfic (or something... ;)
>authors in one place.

I'm honored. (I must have done something right in the last few chapters of DW2, because I'm starting to get all these people saying, "it's/you're one of my favorites!" over the past few months.)

>Anyway. Hi. ;) Glad to see a familiar, er, face (well, you know what
>I mean.:)

A friendly keystroke is always welcome, right? <grin>

-- Bob
---------------
Come to the Wired. Ask for Lain. I will help you.
-- from Serial Experiments Lain: The Legend Continues

>A friendly keystroke is always welcome, right? <grin>

This sounds vaguely obscene.

Not that that's a bad thing.

-- Sean --

http://www.thebrokenlink.org The Broken Link 4.0 is live!
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
"It's not easy being green." -- Kermit the Frog

>>Schroeck... Schroeck... sounds kinda familiar...
>>*ding!*
>>Drunkard's Walk! Yes?
>
>Right!
>
>>Coolness... two of my three favorite fanfic (or something... ;)
>>authors in one place.
>
>I'm honored. (I must have done something right in the last few
>chapters of DW2, because I'm starting to get all these people
>saying, "it's/you're one of my favorites!" over the past few months.)
>
>>Anyway. Hi. ;) Glad to see a familiar, er, face (well, you know what
>>I mean.:)
>
>A friendly keystroke is always welcome, right? <grin>
>
>-- Bob
>---------------
Cool, I'm a fan of DW2 as well, looking forward to the next part. 8)

and to Sofaspud, any updates planned for the couch anytime soon? there's several stories I'd like to read more of on there.

Okay... I started reading Eyrie stuff back in '96 or '97 (all I know for sure is that it was at some point when I was attending Southern CT State U) when I found Warrior's Legacy while searching for quality SF fanfic. I didn't get around to plowing my way through the rest of the EPU catalog until I started reading NXE last year, thanks to reading "An Encounter at Shamrock House", which I found so quirky that I had to know what spawned it. So I read NXE, and finally read UF (I'd started UF1 several times but never finished it); after reading that, I went through the rest of the EPU catalog over the course of the following week or two.

As a quick note, I'm a writer as well, planning on self-publishing a novel in the semi-near future.

-- Sean --

http://www.thebrokenlink.org The Broken Link 4.0 is live!
"Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- Albert Einstein
"It's not easy being green." -- Kermit the Frog

I've been write for, like maybe a week now, and I had not noticed this topic, so you can shoot me later, but I am Xervis, and dont ask where I got the name, cuz I dont know! It was this or Zack, witch, by the way, can be gotten from re-arranging the first letters of my names!!!!!

Xervis
AKA
The Chrono Shifting Trigger

If death is only the begining, then
what is the end?

Me

The First Foundation was only the beginning.

I don't get it. Am I the only person on the forum who thought "An Encounter at Shamrock House" was completely and totally sane?

Completely confused,
Kitsune

Folks, don't be shy about starting new threads for your introduction - or this thread will become an unweildy monster.

-MegaZone, megazone@megazone.org
Personal Homepage http://www.megazone.org/
Eyrie Productions FanFic http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>Folks, don't be shy about starting new threads for your introduction -
>or this thread will become an unweildy monster.
>

There are a few examples of the species around here already <one thread or another is up at around 150 posts>. Anyone got an 'unweildy monster slaying sword + 5' around?

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Darkness beyond Twilight"

>Folks, don't be shy about starting new threads for your introduction -
>or this thread will become an unweildy monster.

Hey, Mr. DCForum Hacker D00d... any chance of adding a "Start New Thread" button on the "Compose your message" screen? Maybe it'd help with some of these 100-article threads whose actual subject matter shifts six or seven times along the way. :)

--truss.

>Hey, Mr. DCForum Hacker D00d... any chance of adding a "Start New
>Thread" button on the "Compose your message" screen? Maybe it'd help
>with some of these 100-article threads whose actual subject matter
>shifts six or seven times along the way. :)

I suppose it is possible. I'll have to look into how best to code it.

-MegaZone, megazone@megazone.org
Personal Homepage http://www.megazone.org/
Eyrie Productions FanFic http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>>Hey, Mr. DCForum Hacker D00d... any chance of adding a "Start New
>>Thread" button on the "Compose your message" screen? Maybe it'd help
>>with some of these 100-article threads whose actual subject matter
>>shifts six or seven times along the way. :)
>
>I suppose it is possible. I'll have to look into how best to code it.

A way for the admins to split threads would be handy, too. If I'd found a way to do that, I'd have broken up the "NXE Hostility" thread into about five different threads by now. :)

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>A way for the admins to split threads would be handy, too. If I'd
>found a way to do that, I'd have broken up the "NXE Hostility" thread
>into about five different threads by now. :)

Now, this I know would be complicated. Doable ("It's only software."), but not simple. Have to do something so you can pick which post to be the break point, then move it and any of its children to a new thread. And, to do it up right, you should probably leave behind a post with a URL that points to the new thread...

-MegaZone, megazone@megazone.org
Personal Homepage http://www.megazone.org/
Eyrie Productions FanFic http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>Now, this I know would be complicated. Doable ("It's only
>software."), but not simple. Have to do something so you can pick
>which post to be the break point, then move it and any of its children
>to a new thread. And, to do it up right, you should probably leave
>behind a post with a URL that points to the new thread...
>

OK, now you've got my geek blood going... how are the messages stored?<meaning, are they all independent records with some sort of master table, or are they like linked lists, a post has a pointer to it's parent {and maybe children}?>

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Darkness beyond Twilight"

>OK, now you've got my geek blood going... how are the messages
>stored?<meaning, are they all independent records with some sort of
>master table, or are they like linked lists, a post has a pointer to
>it's parent {and maybe children}?>

Unfortunately messier than that - posts are stored in multiple ways:
- a flat HTML file of the entire thread (what you see with View All)
- a flat .txt file with all the posts in it in a delimited format
- a database.txt file stores the list of threads for the forum and associated data in a delimited format

So to do a move you'd probably alter the .txt file - removing the posts being moved, then adding them to the new location (or altering them in the file if staying in the same forum). You'd have to renumber them to avoid conflicts with existing posts in the new forum. There is already an ability for admins to move entire threads, so I'd imagine that'd be the starting point for this code.

Then rebuild the .html files - there is already a function to do that though. You'd want to call that once the .txt files were fixed.

And you'd need to update the database.txt file to reflect the new thread - that is probably also addressed in the current thread moving code.

Oh, and the data.txt file is a counter of posts for the forum, so if you add posts to a forum you need to incriment the counter appropriate. That's also probably handled in the same code.

Of course that all ignores things like the email notification files, etc - but there is no good way to handle those IMHO, so I'd ignore them. (Cloning them for any relocated branches would be uncool, IHMO.)

-MegaZone, megazone@megazone.org
Personal Homepage http://www.megazone.org/
Eyrie Productions FanFic http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>Unfortunately messier than that - posts are stored in multiple ways:
>- a flat HTML file of the entire thread (what you see with View All)
>- a flat .txt file with all the posts in it in a delimited format
>- a database.txt file stores the list of threads for the forum and
>associated data in a delimited format

hideous hideous hideous. /me lost 2d6 SAN (I rolled a 10)
when looking at the storage structure for articles.

-jer (crusty old gweep and news admin)
--
jer@gweep.net
Ceci n'est pas une .signature

>>Unfortunately messier than that - posts are stored in multiple ways:
>>- a flat HTML file of the entire thread (what you see with View All)
>>- a flat .txt file with all the posts in it in a delimited format
>>- a database.txt file stores the list of threads for the forum and
>>associated data in a delimited format
>
>hideous hideous hideous. /me lost 2d6 SAN (I rolled a 10)
>when looking at the storage structure for articles.

The flat HTML file is cool - it cuts server load, when you 'view all' you are hitting a link to a static HTML document. That's fine.

The large flatfile on the other hand... Yeah, I'm trying to encourage the next major revision move to individual files for each post. If I knew more, or rather, anything really about USEnet post formats on an newsserver I'd probably push for something closer to that.

The database.txt file I have no problem with - it improves performance by not having to parse all the posts for the relevant info.

Of course, the next major rev is supposed to support an SQL DB backend anyway, which is the better choice overall. (Probably MySQL - maybe others.) But a lot of users don't have access to a DB and need the flat file support.

If you have suggestions for article storage, please share them.

-MegaZone, megazone@megazone.org
Personal Homepage http://www.megazone.org/
Eyrie Productions FanFic http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>The large flatfile on the other hand... Yeah, I'm trying to encourage
>the next major revision move to individual files for each post. If I
>knew more, or rather, anything really about USEnet post formats on an
>newsserver I'd probably push for something closer to that.

Take a look at /var/spool/news/articles on rei - there are directory trees for the newsgroup hierarchies, and numbered text files in the directories for the posts. So, post #11570 on rec.arts.anime.misc would be /var/spool/news/articles/rec/arts/anime/misc/11570 .

There's also a fragile, easily-corrupted, and utterly critical file called 'active' which keeps track of things for the server. Jer can tell you more about that.

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

>Of course, the next major rev is supposed to support an SQL DB backend
>anyway, which is the better choice overall. (Probably MySQL - maybe
>others.) But a lot of users don't have access to a DB and need the
>flat file support.

DCForum is perl, yesno? or am I mis-remembering?
Why not just use perlDBI, then? that way, people can use whatever database backend they feel inclined to...including the semi-evil perl-DBI-flatfile <shudder><twitch>

ok, so the flat-DBI-flatfile is not overly pleasant...being able to swap database backends between mySQL, postgres, Oracle, and about a dozen others IS...Having used perlDBI for a few CGI apps in the past, I seriously recommend it

>>A way for the admins to split threads would be handy, too. If I'd
>>found a way to do that, I'd have broken up the "NXE Hostility" thread
>>into about five different threads by now. :)
>
>Now, this I know would be complicated. Doable ("It's only
>software."), but not simple. Have to do something so you can pick
>which post to be the break point, then move it and any of its children
>to a new thread. And, to do it up right, you should probably leave
>behind a post with a URL that points to the new thread...

Perhaps a way for the users to quote to a new thread without copying and pasting. That way, when a user responsible enough to realize they are way off the original thread topic responds, they could make their own thread.

--------------------------------------
Whoa! What IS it?!

>Perhaps a way for the users to quote to a new thread without copying
>and pasting. That way, when a user responsible enough to realize they
>are way off the original thread topic responds, they could make their
>own thread.

This is actually what my original feature request was supposed to say. I don't think I expressed it all that clearly, but you did it for me. :)

--truss.

>>Perhaps a way for the users to quote to a new thread without copying
>>and pasting. That way, when a user responsible enough to realize they
>>are way off the original thread topic responds, they could make their
>>own thread.
>
>This is actually what my original feature request was supposed to say.
> I don't think I expressed it all that clearly, but you did it for me.
>:)
>
>--truss.

Not that I realized I was restating anybody elses ideas, but you're welcome :D

--------------------------------------
Whoa! What IS it?!

Heylo,

I'm Static-Pulse, self-proclaimed freelance hacker, otaku, meta-mechanic, accolyte of the Goddess Roxy, and part-time writer. I'm a big fan of Eyrie, ever since that fateful night of '99 when I read through CORE 1... Mmm.. Good times. Hail Gryphon!

Static-Pulse
http://www.darkbeast.com
http://levelx.cjb.net

>Speaking of GweepNet BBS traditions I forgot when I created the
>boards, I left out the freaking introductions area! How clumsy and
>stupid of me.

does DCF have a .private-mail group?
(not really private, not really mail)

>Anyway, I'm Gryphon. If you're here on the EPU message boards,
>chances are you know more about me than I have the energy to type
>right now anyway.

Hi Gryph,

I'm Jer. I'm one of the sysadmins of gweep.net
http://www.gweep.net/~jer/ should say the rest.

-jer

--
jer@gweep.net
Ceci n'est pas une .signature

>>Speaking of GweepNet BBS traditions I forgot when I created the
>>boards, I left out the freaking introductions area! How clumsy and
>>stupid of me.
>
>does DCF have a .private-mail group?
>(not really private, not really mail)

It does now. :)

--G.
-><-
Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/

Took me a month to get around to this. Ah well...

I'm Matrix Dragon, all round EPU fan, fanfic writer, school student and part-time Discordian (Great for pissing off my teachers, as I attend a catholic school). I've been a fan of the work here for a few years now, and I was inspired by this page to write my own fics.

Matrix Dragon
"Insert the quote of the day here."

>
>I'm Matrix Dragon, all round EPU fan, fanfic writer, school student
>and part-time Discordian (Great for pissing off my teachers, as I
>attend a catholic school). I've been a fan of the work here for a few
>years now, and I was inspired by this page to write my own fics.
>

Catholic school? Doesn't take much to piss off many of those teachers <I'm a veteran of that battle ground myself, hell, I am, as I type this, wearing 'I Survived Catholic School', a shirt that never fails to get chuckles;) >

-={(Astynax)}=-
"11 and a half years, and somehow I'm not <totally> insane"

>
>Catholic school? Doesn't take much to piss off many of those teachers
><I'm a veteran of that battle ground myself, hell, I am, as I type
>this, wearing 'I Survived Catholic School', a shirt that never fails
>to get chuckles;) >
>
>-={(Astynax)}=-
>"11 and a half years, and somehow I'm not <totally> insane"
>

Why not? Is it the anime, the fanfiction, comic books, science fiction, or what?

Whatever it is, I may need to up my supply someday.

Peter Eng

>Catholic school? Doesn't take much to piss off many of those teachers <I'm a >veteran of that battle ground myself, hell, I am, as I type this, wearing 'I >Survived Catholic School', a shirt that never fails to get chuckles;) >

Heh heh heh. Cool. Where can I get one for my last day of year 12, a few months from now? Make part of a great costume. Add a few guns (toy or real, your choice) and some fake wounds and get ready to give the nuns a heart attack.

Matrix Dragon
"5 years at a Catholic school and I'm insane, but at least I took a few teachers with me :)"

>
>Heh heh heh. Cool. Where can I get one for my last day of year 12, a
>few months from now? Make part of a great costume. Add a few guns (toy
>or real, your choice) and some fake wounds and get ready to give the
>nuns a heart attack.
>

Well, mine came from and Irish Shop <that was it's name, the Irish Shop, seems to be a semi franchise thing> in St. Augustine Florida. Not sure where else you mgith get one:)

And as for scaring nuns, you could always go the blasphemy route, more legal;)

-={(Astynax)}=-
"Darkness beyond Twilight"

>Well, mine came from and Irish Shop <that was it's name, the Irish Shop, seems >to be a semi franchise thing> in St. Augustine Florida. Not sure where else you >might get one:)

Ah well... Maybe I can make one.

>And as for scaring nuns, you could always go the blasphemy route, more legal;)

This is Australia. Blasphemy is almost illegal, thanks to minority groups.

Matrix Dragon
"Honestly Sister Sue, Eris is a far better choice then Jesus..."

>
>Ah well... Maybe I can make one.
>

Hmm, standard beach T-shirt shops often make custom shirts <for a charge per letter usually>

>
>This is Australia. Blasphemy is almost illegal, thanks to minority
>groups.
>

Really? And here I thought Australia was at least marginally ahead of the good 'ol US in the personal freedom dept. I guess idocy spreads worldwide faster than the ILOVEYOU bug.

>Matrix Dragon
>"Honestly Sister Sue, Eris is a far better choice then Jesus..."

Well, at least then my life would make a LITTLE more sense...

-={(Astynax)}=-
"My life is way to chaotic to have anything to do with jesus;)"

>Really? And here I thought Australia was at least marginally ahead of the >good 'ol US in the personal freedom dept. I guess idocy spreads worldwide >faster than the ILOVEYOU bug.

Nope, political correctness has almost crippled Australia. We had you standard anti-globalisation protesters last week, and the police were told off for standing too close to them while they wrecked a McDonalds.

>>"Honestly Sister Sue, Eris is a far better choice then Jesus..."
>Well, at least then my life would make a LITTLE more sense...

Mine did, that's for sure. Hail Eris!

>"My life is way to chaotic to have anything to do with jesus;)"

It's not his fault he doesn't understand chaos.

Matrix Dragon.
"Now, to partake of a hot dog."

http://www.lrgames.com/bio.html#eb

'Cause I'm not writing it again.

Ebony the Black Dragon
aka Draco Draconis Ebenium
known to the U.S. Census as Aaron F. Johnson,
Senior Editor, Living Room Games
http://www.lrgames.com

(Single Caucasian Male, No Kids)

LAST EDITED ON Jun-03-01 AT 09:13 AM (EDT)

...one,two,three...testing,testing...
...one,two,three...is this thing on?
...Oh .

Um,hi.Just thought it'd be nice to introduce
myself . There's a little quote that , with a little
modification , would fit in nicely .

"A gamer(addicted),a reader(ditto),
a viewer,a writer(not a very good one),
with a twisted imagination of the like
which has never(or seldom)been seen ,
egocentric to the point of fanaticism ,
there you have me in a nutshell ,
and kill me again or take me as I am ,
for I shall not change ...
Never " (original by DeSade , slightly modified by
Moonspell and then by me)

Puff ,wheeze , that about wraps it up .
Updates shall be posted (I think) .

-Griever

"Take a little walk with me in the light ...what?
There isn't any light? Of course there isnt!
We're the dancers of shadows . Luna covers itself in
mystery . Of course there is no light !
Light would ruin all the fun !"
- a Ragabash (the quote is a reverse engineered
quote from the Polish translation of the sourcebook
for Werewolf:Apocalypse so mistakes are bound to have
occured . PLEASE - correct me !!!)