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Topic ID: 12
#0, New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Norgarth on Apr-01-09 at 09:46 PM
Well, As Rickdominated said in response to the first trailer, KICK ASS!

Well, to start with, the most obvious theme from the trailers is 'Covenant War 2'.

Trailer one focuses on several of our favorite IPO agents. My initial interpretation is as follows:

- Steve Rogers' visit to Janice might involve her boyfriend (who's name I'm blanking on) being MIA/KIA.
- Silvar is unhappy
- Some ODSTs are a) quite possibly underestimating their targets (whomever they are) and b) in more trouble than they realize.
- More Covenant, Our favorite furry photographer and Truss, who's wondering when his last name became Connor. 8P
- Janice making a Decision, followed by the appearance of a new Spartan (Janice?)
- Xander Cage conversing with someone my subconscious insists on calling M.
- Skuld showing why she leads the Valkyries.

Trailer 2:
the quality/numbers of troops required to make this group of characters fall back/retreat is disturbing. I don't know what's in the droppods but they can't be good news, especially since this appears to be a Big Fire operation.
Sounds like there's be a strong need for urban renewal in the near future.

Trailer 3:
It looks like the cast of CSI:NA arebeing upgraded across the board, from cops, to super-cops. 8P Did someone order a bulk shipment of Interesting Times?

Cathrine + Kirk, going to be interesting.
Gotta wonder if Atomic Robo's dance partner is connected to the Covenant or just unfortunate timing.
Warrick hanging with Tesla
the CSI coroners seeing stuff even they aren't prepared for? yeesh.
Calleigh Appearantly picked a target that if not bullet resistant, appearantly doesn't have it's vulnerable spot where she expected.
Nick meets his dad


#1, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Ardaniel on Apr-01-09 at 09:53 PM
In response to message #0
>- More Covenant, Our favorite furry photographer and Truss, who's
>wondering when his last name became Connor. 8P

Reckon ye not lightly with the force of the mighty Cameron 'pon yon Great Magnet. I sat in front of that one for almost an hour, unable to write it any other way.

Ard Collier
that Janice chick
Usual Suspect and general menace


#2, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Rickdominated on Apr-01-09 at 10:24 PM
In response to message #0
Yes, all this is nice and all, just wake me when the Date rolls over so I can be sure that this is not a horrible joke... D:

Unfortunately, the final line of Trailer 4 seems to say so...


#3, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by BeardedFerret on Apr-02-09 at 01:31 AM
In response to message #0
So... Covenant invasion of a large section of the galaxy (including New Avalon), terror groups mentioned during the meeting at the end of Twilight start making a big push, Kei comes back (which kind of makes me think she got nabbed by the Covenant in the first place), Cybertron is in trouble (hi Unicron) and suddenly Gryphon and Skuld are using their suits in the mortal world which suggests that some kind of fundamental change has happened.

It would appear that Surtur's plan is coming together.

Also some stuff happens with CSI and the monks. And apparently the Flying Nun.


#4, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Meagen on Apr-02-09 at 07:45 AM
In response to message #3
Also, Nazis. Lots and lots of Nazis.

#5, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Polychrome on Apr-02-09 at 10:17 AM
In response to message #4
When you're looking for bad guys, you can't go wrong with Nationalist Socialists.

Polychrome


#10, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Droken on Apr-02-09 at 12:37 PM
In response to message #3
It's really just the Griffin suit, since Skuld's already pulled out the Black Talon during the Exile. But still, you -know- it's going bad when that comes to play.

#6, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Maeglin on Apr-02-09 at 12:02 PM
In response to message #0
Don't let this be an April Fool's joke. Please. Please?

When I saw the flying nun... I started to think it had to be... but... UF has stranger things. ;) I guess I'm going to wait and see.


#7, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Mephron on Apr-02-09 at 12:08 PM
In response to message #6
It's hard to find superpowered clergy, man. I did the best I could with what I had available.

I mean, it's not like I dropped in Battle Pope.

--
Geoff Depew - Darth Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support.
"And Remember! Google is your Friend!!"


#8, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Wedge on Apr-02-09 at 12:29 PM
In response to message #7

>I mean, it's not like I dropped in Battle Pope.

ooooo, Battle Pope. *scribbles notes*


Chad Collier
Smirking Kilrathi
The Captain of the Gravy Train


#9, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Droken on Apr-02-09 at 12:35 PM
In response to message #7
"Battle Pope" just makes me wonder what he's hiding under his hat...

#11, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Peter Eng on Apr-02-09 at 02:07 PM
In response to message #9
>"Battle Pope" just makes me wonder what he's hiding under his hat...

In UF, it would probably be a subspace access device for storing weapons and booze.

Peter Eng
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I'm only a Charter Member because of the DCForum upgrade, and because there's no rank below "Clueless F!wit."


#13, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Droken on Apr-02-09 at 05:42 PM
In response to message #11
Either that, or just the power generator for a buster cannon.

#12, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Meagen on Apr-02-09 at 05:34 PM
In response to message #7
>It's hard to find superpowered clergy, man.

Ahem.


#18, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by McFortner on Apr-03-09 at 07:25 PM
In response to message #12
"Crikey - it's the Bishop!"



Michael C. Fortner
RCW #2n+1

"I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a time."
-- Mark Twain



#14, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Rickdominated on Apr-02-09 at 07:14 PM
In response to message #7
Well, theres always the XIII Iscariot guys from Hellsing
Regenerating Knife Throwing Paladin, Lightswitch Japanese Samurai Berserker Nun with Glasses (Approaching Fetish Critical Mass...) and a crazy German Gunslinger.
Then there's Hellsing's Nazis...


Anyway, I'm surprised no ones talking about what is apparently Nemesis Prime/Scourge smacking around Shockwave in Trailer 5
This whole Cybertron ark promises to be VERY interesting


#15, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by O_M on Apr-02-09 at 08:59 PM
In response to message #0
Trailer 2:
the quality/numbers of troops required to make this group of characters fall back/retreat is disturbing. I don't know what's in the droppods but they can't be good news, especially since this appears to be a Big Fire operation.
Sounds like there's be a strong need for urban renewal in the near future.

Well, given the choice of music, I have this large sinking feeling in my stomach that Alberto just decided the Flood make an admirable terror weapon without really considering the consequences...


#16, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by StClair on Apr-03-09 at 03:57 PM
In response to message #15
Would it be worse if he did?


"Actually, Detective, we have counted."


#17, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Gryphon on Apr-03-09 at 06:01 PM
In response to message #15
>Well, given the choice of music, I have this large sinking feeling in
>my stomach that Alberto just decided the Flood make an admirable
>terror weapon without really considering the consequences...

Mind you, to reach that conclusion, one would have to take Peter Gabriel lyrics literally...

--G.
which would certainly put "Sledgehammer" in a whole new light
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#19, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Barricade on Apr-04-09 at 09:59 PM
In response to message #0
>Trailer 2:
>the quality/numbers of troops required to make this group of
>characters fall back/retreat is disturbing. I don't know what's in
>the droppods but they can't be good news, especially since this
>appears to be a Big Fire operation.
>Sounds like there's be a strong need for urban renewal in the near
>future.
>
The part that worries me is that, and I admit its probably due to playing this too much, that Dawn of War II just came out, and the droppod part instantly made me think of that. Also it'd likely neatly explain just why Sivar is pissed off as the IoM (or Chaos) makes war just to make war.

#20, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Lethosos on Apr-06-09 at 03:46 PM
In response to message #0
Just some clarifications:

> - Silvar is unhappy

Obviously--he has plans on revitalizing the entire Kilrathi race, and this... Coveant nonsense is fast-tracking his plans too fast for his liking. But hey, he's a wargod--they tend to be notoriously good at making do. The only hint we have is that Chad's the linchpin of his plans...

> - Some ODSTs are a) quite possibly underestimating their targets (whomever they are) and b) in more trouble than they realize.

Given that this is likely to be Earthforce troops, I'm not suprised. The Psi Corps havea funny way of taking advantage of pre-existing conditions, and they'd be mighty interested in the Spartan formula...

> - Janice making a Decision, followed by the appearance of a new Spartan (Janice?)

Speak of the devil. I wouldn't hold my breath--Gryph hasn't said anything about sucessive generations of SPARTANs AFAIK. If we use the HALOverse material as reference, we can infer that the Salusian improved the orignal formula--there was a high rate of mortality among the first generation, with better rates in the second and third generations.

So I'm thinking Big Blue here is at least <i>fourth</i> generation quality, for the formula to be that sucessful as a rapid-deployable SPARTAN. (I will still say that it's possible for Janice to be one--she has the training and skills to be one, if not for the fact that Master Chief is also Salusian--we don't know if the procedure works on humans.)


#21, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Gryphon on Apr-06-09 at 04:37 PM
In response to message #20
>If we use the
>HALOverse material as reference, we can infer that the Salusian
>improved the orignal formula--there was a high rate of mortality among
>the first generation, with better rates in the second and third
>generations.

The Salusian project's earlier revs were also somewhat less ambitious than those found in the source material, if I remember the early Halo novels right. They weren't trying to make a soldier with the full capabilities we see in a SPARTAN-III back in the first attempt. The early procedures were a lot less radical, and as such, they didn't have a catastrophic recruit mortality rate in SPARTAN-I or -II. The products were just less capable. SPARTAN-I troopers weren't so much Super-Soldiers as Really Good Soldiers.

The reason most of them are dead in the early 25th century is simply that SPARTAN-I was a long time ago. SPARTAN-II subjects received extended lifespans, but they also had very dangerous jobs, so there's only one of them left, and the SPARTAN-IIIs, well... they had the original Covenant War to contend with.

(As an aside, Project MJOLNIR actually ended up with longer legs than Project SPARTAN; after the Mark V, it changed from developing powered armor suits to cyborg parts, culminating in the the MJOLNIR Mk IX military/security cyborg full-body replacement system. In the present day it's still possible to find cyborg products branded with the "Mjolnir" name, but nowadays they're usually replacement parts for wounded soldiers and whatnot, built by the semi-private company (Mjolnir Systems) that the Salusian government spun off after the weapons-project part was wrapped up in the 22nd century.)

--G.
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#22, RE: New Frontier Speculations
Posted by Peter Eng on Apr-06-09 at 06:51 PM
In response to message #20
>
>So I'm thinking Big Blue here is at least <i>fourth</i> generation
>quality, for the formula to be that sucessful as a rapid-deployable
>SPARTAN.
>

Either that, or the SPARTAN shown earlier in trailer #1 is another survivor. The Master Chief thinks he's the last of the SPARTANs. Tuncer thought he was the last Elite.

Peter Eng
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