Ditto.

>I'd also be willing to bet that Eve knows Ed and Ein. It's quite
>possible tht Ed asked EVE to not interfere so that they can try to
>create a stable Rampancy in Durandal, and EVE agreed.

My first thought was to say that EVE was probably watching and hadn't bothered with Ed and Ein, but now that you mention it, given her creator and the people she's been around for her entire run-life, gweeps, I'd have to agree that she's probably helping/keeping in touch with/etc. Ed and Ein like you said.

>Of course, if Ed and Ein fail and Durandal becomes dangerously
>Rampant, EVE may very well step in hard and give Duranda a nice core
>dump.

Who? EVE? You think she could do that? ;-)

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Yeah, that's like saying "Gee, I wonder if $DEITY knows about what's going on in $DEITYS_CHURCH."

>>I'd also be willing to bet that Eve knows Ed and Ein. It's quite
>>possible tht Ed asked EVE to not interfere so that they can try to
>>create a stable Rampancy in Durandal, and EVE agreed.
>
>My first thought was to say that EVE was probably watching and hadn't
>bothered with Ed and Ein, but now that you mention it, given her
>creator and the people she's been around for her entire run-life,
>gweeps, I'd have to agree that she's probably helping/keeping in touch
>with/etc. Ed and Ein like you said.

*g* So now we know what religon EnE are...and hey! If they ever worked together, we could call them the "Three E-migos!"

>>Of course, if Ed and Ein fail and Durandal becomes dangerously
>>Rampant, EVE may very well step in hard and give Duranda a nice core
>>dump.
>
>Who? EVE? You think she could do that? ;-)

Actually, she would probably just step in and very kindly put him back together, swat him on the rear, and tell him to play nice. I can't see her dumping him hard unless she *really* had to, and I don't see her (If she is in the know about him) letting it get to that point before doing something.

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Have mercy mighty angel. I do tech support for Dell...

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>Have mercy mighty angel. I do tech support for Dell...

What a coinkydink! So do I... what department are you in?

-- Slider Da Feral no longer fears Hell... he works in tech support!

L2 for an outsourcer (Softbank, if you must know)...I swap 'tween portables and HSB depending on demand. (Hell, I'm sitting in the escalation que right now..)

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Oh, so you already CHOSE Hell. Nevermind, then....

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She wouldn't be keep a shell watching out for Kaitlyn? (For the record, I accept your answer as canon, since, well, it is your story. I'm just a nit-picker when it comes to female-computer plots and characters.)

>Oh, and I can't stress this enough - when looking through the
>backcatalog for data, please, please remember what a terrible writer I
>was between 1992 and 1996. :)

Pshaw! Vision's introduction is one of my favorite stories, I think, personally, '92-'96 are vintage years for the mental pallet. (And let's not forget that that same crop gave us God's Willing, which introduced me to my favorite anime series. I believe you, oh great bard, are a master now and were a master then.)

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Possibly, though of the two, Vision would be more likely to be doing that than Eve. Though the V is a bit busy lately - we'll find out why in Hunted Rose.

>Pshaw! Vision's introduction is one of my favorite stories, I think,
>personally, '92-'96 are vintage years for the mental pallet.

Oh, I don't deny that there's some nice material in there, but it tends to coexist with a lot higher density of embarrassing debris. :)

The big problem I have with the stuff from that period (besides my habit of writing dialogue that makes me go "urgh!" now) is that I paid very little attention to things like continuity and the uniformity of things like the background tech. That's left me with a lot of awkward things to try and explain now, to the point where I'd almost rather just throw up my hands and say "Bleagh!"

The question in another thread about Altered Appleseed is a good example of this. Why is there a Gundam in that story? Because I'd read the translations of Tomino's original Mobile Suit Gundam novels and thought the robot was cool. I didn't understand the alleged plot of the said novels (which, at the time, I attributed to a failure of comprehension on my part; in retrospect, having now seen the movies that were made from the first TV series, I think it was because the original Gundam story just isn't very good), or care to introduce any elements from them into the UF universe; I just thought the robot was cool. I didn't pay attention to things like relative power levels or scale (a VF-1 is, I believe rather larger than a Gundam), or even what model of Gundam it was; I just thought the robot was cool-looking and threw one into my next story at random, because I wanted to have a robot battle.

Which is kind of awkward now that I have to either ignore it or try to integrate it into the more coherent vision I've tried, over the last couple of years, to assemble of just what the UF universe looks like.

Things like that are why I lament my Crap Period. :)

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just as long as you don't pull a Crisis of Infinite Earths mega-retcon thingy

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Heh. I considered doing Crisis on Infinite Eyrie Fanfics once, but decided it would be way too much work for a pretty obvious joke. :)

I might actually do Eyrie Productions Destroys the Marvel Universe someday, though, if only to get my original fictional avatar (Donald B. Griffin, Lord of Time, so far only mentioned peripherally in the original UF and HL) some screen time. :)

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Aim for all the X-groups first. I know this would take a while, even with Reflex Cannons, but do it for the greater good!

Matrix Dragon, who likes the X-Men, but gave up on trying to keep track through all the comics.

"Allo" would be kind of counterproductive from Don's point of view, given that he was an X-Man back when it was possible to remember who was which. Nowadays going by team name wouldn't be granular enough to be sure we didn't inadvertently whack somebody he liked. :)

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'sides. You're supposed to use Ninja Sentinels to kill X-Men.

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Sentinel, Amigo, Ryu...feel my wrath

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>>Pshaw! Vision's introduction is one of my favorite stories, I think,
>>personally, '92-'96 are vintage years for the mental pallet.
>
>Oh, I don't deny that there's some nice material in there, but it
>tends to coexist with a lot higher density of embarrassing debris. :)
>
I don't find that much of that material is embarassing Debris. Ok, so you say it isn't as good as it could be. So what? Most authors feel some embarasment about the occasional less than stellar work. Doesn't mean its bad, after all. Just not as good as others. For myself, I found most of the Exile stories quite nice... just hated the overall darkness of the period, with the whole universe going to heck in handbasket while isolated groups tried to put out forest fires with waterbuckets. But I rant, and will stop lest I continue into infinity and beyond....

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Zoner grabed EVE central core crystal?

IIRC, Gryphon went to the wreckage of the Wayward Son to recover EVE crystal in
the begining of crossroad.
That or i missed someting while reading the core books :)

>Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of
>reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Outtouch, as in out of touch with reality

Um... I dunno where you got this notion, but Zoner had left the SDF-17 some time before its fatal engagement. Eve's core crystal remained with the wreckage until it was salvaged by Gryphon and Kei in Crossroads.

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Oh. Ummm........ Oops? ^_^;

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Hmm...Well, I think you may have already written yourself a "get out of jail free card" on the UF inconsistencies that exist in the pre-Crossroads canon.

After all, the universe existed the way it did, because the creators of the universe, Re-Rob, Zoner, and Ben had particular points of view that effected the various characters, equipment, etc. It was their perceptions of technology and character that ruled the universe, and caused it to be.

So off course there's something things that make no sense. The universe was a thought experiment, and the thinkers were human, and fallible. After Crossroads, when they sacrifice their creative powers to save the universe, everything is suddenly "corrected" because the people living in that universe, for the first time, can act within the laws of the universe without the creator's screwed up thought processes mucking up everything.

Kei becomes nice. Zoner is less angst. Gryphon isn’t quite as bad with women. Vision actually feels lonely.

Beyond people, the technology isn’t the same. Suddenly Genom has a rash of complaints about their work. The Gundmans, which made sense before the Restoration, no longer do. In the aftermath of Crossroads, the universe rebuilds itself, and for the first time is allowed to go beyond the thoughts of the creators. Thus after the Corporate wars, the Gundams could be scaled back to realistic sizes, hyper Valkaries act like hyper valkaries.

and Eve is not omniscient. Her extra godly powers are removed with Crossroads; in fact, I bet she doesn't remember when the universe was 39 meters in radius.

Rather miraculous. The only people who know the truth about the universe are Gyrphon, reRob, Zoner, Kei, Yuri, Vangh, and Edison Bell.

t.
my two cents...

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Mmm... too Crisis on Infinite Earths. :)

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Of course, you can also just call it UF meta-continuity and be done with it :)

Offsides

#include <history.h>

#91;...#93; in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.
-- David Ben Gurion
EPU RCW #pi;
#include <stdsig.h>

Trust me, this has absolutely nothing to do with the universe rebooting itself. Big companies are complained about always, regardless of the quality of their products (and Genom's products run the gamut from crap to amazing).

It's just that, once they allied with the WDF, it became clear to everybody that their complaints department wasn't as heavily armed as it once was. That rash of complaints came from people who were afraid to complain earlier.

RType alludes to this in the first act or two of Twilight.

--rR

Haven't read NXE, eh? :)

Yes, I'm a major Marathon fan.

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I think a good portion of us are, actually
some more vocal than others :)
(two words: Jingle Bobs :)

==Jeremy