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"Dread Pirate Shustul..."
 
   I kid you not... that was my first thought when I saw Lisa ver 2.0. I only hope that this concious decision to turn her back on just about all that she was brought up with doesnt cause her torment in the end.

Seriously. If you look at it, everything about her is just about 180 from what she was prior to her trip aboard the Spirit, from dress to attitude to fighting style.

Loved the fact that "SS" was peeved over knocking AoN out of a gig, and taking steps to undo the damage. Of course, this bodes ill for Clarissa... She's now done something to incur Mac's wrath. And he has a willing acomplice in Az; no good can come of this.

About the only thing I can think of that really strikes me as 'not right' comes down to the size of the Beast's cargo hold. Even given the fact that Mac has trimmed out a decent amount of additional passenger cubage, it still seems like it should still be... well... larger. Somehow I got the impression that it was a touch larger than the Wonder; that an the description of the exterior hull form left me feeling like the interior cargo hold would be large enough to park Moose's "van" in.

And one last thought on Vi. Yea gods... that woman is so CLUELESS don't let her anywhere near a computer owned by the Hutchins family! In fact, the way she bit on the Charm line had me thinking "oh crud! She's becoming Kuno in a skirt!"

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  RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Gryphonadmin Dec-22-01 1
     RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Peter Eng Dec-22-01 3
     RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Redneck Dec-23-01 4
         RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Gryphonadmin Dec-23-01 5
             RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Redneck Dec-23-01 6
                 RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Gryphonadmin Dec-23-01 7
                     RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Croaker Dec-23-01 10
                         RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... trussteam Dec-23-01 12
                             RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Sinapus Dec-24-01 18
  RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Redneck Dec-22-01 2
     RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Star Ranger4 Dec-23-01 8
         RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Gryphonadmin Dec-23-01 9
         RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Redneck Dec-23-01 11
             RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Shadowhavoc Dec-24-01 13
                 RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... ejheckathorn Dec-24-01 14
                     RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Laudre Dec-24-01 15
                         RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... ejheckathorn Dec-24-01 16
                 RE: Dread Pirate Shustul... Redneck Dec-24-01 17

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1. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >And one last thought on Vi. Yea gods... that woman is so CLUELESS
>don't let her anywhere near a computer owned by the Hutchins family!

Dude.

She's twelve.

And she's led, in many ways, a very sheltered life.

>In fact, the way she bit on the Charm line had me thinking "oh crud!
>She's becoming Kuno in a skirt!"

... Whatever that means.

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3. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >
>>In fact, the way she bit on the Charm line had me thinking "oh crud!
>>She's becoming Kuno in a skirt!"
>
>... Whatever that means.
>
>--G.
>

Ummm...it's a Ranma 1/2 reference, therefore you don't give a rat's ass?

Peter Eng
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Assuming she hasn't figured it out already.

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4. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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>>In fact, the way she bit on the Charm line had me thinking "oh crud!
>>She's becoming Kuno in a skirt!"
>
>... Whatever that means.

Agressively obsessive over a love object and too delusional to realize that the love is strictly one-sided.

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5. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >Agressively obsessive over a love object and too delusional to realize
>that the love is strictly one-sided.

Oh.

So, Original Formula (or, if you prefer to use the Duelist injoke, Pre-Encounter) Saionji, then.

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6. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >>Agressively obsessive over a love object and too delusional to realize
>>that the love is strictly one-sided.
>
>Oh.
>
>So, Original Formula (or, if you prefer to use the Duelist injoke,
>Pre-Encounter) Saionji, then.

No, worse; instead of a threatening, serious hazard to life and limb, think buffoon. Moron. Comedy relief.

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7. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >>>Agressively obsessive over a love object and too delusional to realize
>>>that the love is strictly one-sided.
>>
>>Oh.
>>
>>So, Original Formula (or, if you prefer to use the Duelist injoke,
>>Pre-Encounter) Saionji, then.
>
>No, worse; instead of a threatening, serious hazard to life and limb,
>think buffoon. Moron. Comedy relief.

Well, that was the beauty of Classic Saionji; he was both. And a tragic figure. All at once. A remarkable performance, really. :)

--G.
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10. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   LAST EDITED ON Dec-23-01 AT 05:33 PM (EST)

>>>>Agressively obsessive over a love object and too delusional to realize
>>>>that the love is strictly one-sided.
>>>
>>>Oh.
>>>
>>>So, Original Formula (or, if you prefer to use the Duelist injoke,
>>>Pre-Encounter) Saionji, then.
>>
>>No, worse; instead of a threatening, serious hazard to life and limb,
>>think buffoon. Moron. Comedy relief.
>
>Well, that was the beauty of Classic Saionji; he was both.
>And a tragic figure. All at once. A remarkable performance,
>really. :)
>

Which is why he's so much cooler than Kuno. :)

Kuno Tatewaki is not only hopelessly in love, he's loud about it, a total buffoon, and never gets the point. He's an arrogant snob who once he gets an idea into his head will never let go of it, and it's almost universally the wrong idea. He is Samurai, therefore he is Right and all these unwashed Peasants are Wrong, and anyone who says differently is a cohort of the Evil Sorceror Who Holds His True Love In Thrall. And yes, he really does think in Capital Letters.

Unlike, say, the Dread Pirate Shustul, who has proven herself to be one of the most cool characters in the second movement... (shoehorned in in a blatant effort to pretend to be on-topic.)

>--G.
>["I said... hidden love." "Are you still here?"]
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12. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >Unlike, say, the Dread Pirate Shustul,

I wish I knew why it bothers me so much when character names are spelled wrong, but...

It's Shustal.

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18. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >>Unlike, say, the Dread Pirate Shustul,
>
>I wish I knew why it bothers me so much when character names are
>spelled wrong, but...
>
>It's Shustal.

"...well, no one would surrender to Dread Pirate Liza."

Patrick Chester
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2. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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>About the only thing I can think of that really strikes me as 'not
>right' comes down to the size of the Beast's cargo hold. Even given
>the fact that Mac has trimmed out a decent amount of additional
>passenger cubage, it still seems like it should still be... well...
>larger. Somehow I got the impression that it was a touch larger than
>the Wonder; that an the description of the exterior hull form left me
>feeling like the interior cargo hold would be large enough to park
>Moose's "van" in.

It's described as 'about the size of a large bedroom.' Jump into a truck trailer one day and see how it compares to a large bedroom; you'll find the comparison most unfavorable. }:-{D

Moose's van would just B-A-R-E-L-Y fit into the No Bull, with only a handful of inches' clearance height-wise. There's more than enough sideways clearance. Not, of course, that Mac will verify this by practice- the AoN have no real need to -hire- a ship with Corwin around.

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8. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >It's described as 'about the size of a large bedroom.' Jump into a
>truck trailer one day and see how it compares to a large bedroom;
>you'll find the comparison most unfavorable. }:-{D
>
Actually, I've been in a semi trailer... several times. I was a warehouseman for about a year after I got out of the navy. You'd be amazed at how much stuff you can get into one if the load is light enough and you can think in 3 dimensions. And don't forget, I'm from CA. A LARGE bedroom out here is maybe 20-25' or so on a side.

>Moose's van would just B-A-R-E-L-Y fit into the No Bull, with only a
>handful of inches' clearance height-wise. There's more than enough
>sideways clearance. Not, of course, that Mac will verify this by
>practice- the AoN have no real need to -hire- a ship with Corwin
>around.

Eh, true... However I could see them doing it once or twice. To be honest, I didn't think the Wonder had enough cargo cubage to hold the van. Probobly because the hull form of the 3d model whoever it was did up looks so deceptive. And I could see them doing it for another couple of reasons: 1) Mac needed the money from the charter badly, and 2) Corwin had another comittment that weekend....

___________________

Jer told Vaughn about me. I am once again a victim of Murphy's law...

Of COURSE you wernt
expecting it!
No One expects the
FANNISH INQUISITION!

RCW# 86


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9. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >Eh, true... However I could see them doing it once or twice. To be
>honest, I didn't think the Wonder had enough cargo cubage to hold the
>van.

Well, Corwin's car wasn't aboard, which was fortunate, since the garage bay was the only cargo space that had enough contiguous space for the Van. The other holds are more suited for more amorphous cargo.

--G.
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11. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
In response to message #8
 
  
>>Moose's van would just B-A-R-E-L-Y fit into the No Bull, with only a
>>handful of inches' clearance height-wise. There's more than enough
>>sideways clearance. Not, of course, that Mac will verify this by
>>practice- the AoN have no real need to -hire- a ship with Corwin
>>around.
>
>Eh, true... However I could see them doing it once or twice. To be
>honest, I didn't think the Wonder had enough cargo cubage to hold the
>van. Probobly because the hull form of the 3d model whoever it was
>did up looks so deceptive. And I could see them doing it for another
>couple of reasons: 1) Mac needed the money from the charter badly, and
>2) Corwin had another comittment that weekend....

There are issues involved. First, unless they're showing on a space station or somewhere where they get free local transport, Moose's van is an utter necessity. Second, the others are not terribly confident in Mac's shipbuilding abilities -or- his sanity behind the yoke. G'Kron particularly feels Mac should not be allowed at the controls of any vehicle, ever. Third, most of the group is somewhat aware, despite Mac's attempts to conceal it, of his transluminaphobia, and are -not- aware that his phobia is much lessened while he's at the controls of his own ship... thus, even less confidence in him.

The biggest two reasons, though, are that using the OHW or Daggerdisc is -free-, and that the No Bull is the -ugliest- thing they have ever seen flying. They regard Mac's pride in his ship about the same as we'd look at the proud owner of a Yugo... it just defies all rational explanation.

Even Azalynn, that paragon of acceptance and goodwill, who can see the decent person peeking out from behind Mac's obsessive personality, isn't going to make a second visit, much less a flight, unless she has half a dozen helpers, a few barrels of paint, and maybe a mile or two of upholstery cloth. Even then, she might drag Corwin, B'elanna, or both along as well to make some repairs that -don't- involve duct tape. }:-{D

Still, Mac -does- have customers, and even a couple of out-system charters now and again. He spent the entire Thanksgiving break busing half a dozen students to and from their homes for quick visits... and aside from the parts he spent in hyperspace, it was the best Thanksgiving he'd ever had.

So don't feel -too- sorry for him, and don't expect him to become the backup band bus-driver anytime soon.

Redneck

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13. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >There are issues involved. First, unless they're showing on a space
>station or somewhere where they get free local transport, Moose's van
>is an utter necessity. Second, the others are not terribly confident
>in Mac's shipbuilding abilities -or- his sanity behind the yoke.
>G'Kron particularly feels Mac should not be allowed at the controls of
>any vehicle, ever. Third, most of the group is somewhat aware, despite
>Mac's attempts to conceal it, of his transluminaphobia, and are -not-
>aware that his phobia is much lessened while he's at the controls of
>his own ship... thus, even less confidence in him.
>

Um, just what is transluminaphobia? I can't find it on a net search.


Never heard of that one before....


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14. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >Um, just what is transluminaphobia? I can't find it on a net search.
>
>
>Never heard of that one before....

Presumably, the fear of faster-than-light travel.

As FTL travel does not exist on Earth at present, the reason your net search met with no luck should be fairly obvious. :)

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15. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >>Um, just what is transluminaphobia? I can't find it on a net search.
>>
>>
>>Never heard of that one before....
>
>Presumably, the fear of faster-than-light travel.

Close... "superluminaphobia" might be more accurate. "Transluminaphobia" sounds more like a fear of the translation into hyperspace. We haven't seen Mac react to warp space, fold drive, or metaspace, but he's quite obviously terrified of hyperspace.

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16. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >Close... "superluminaphobia" might be more accurate.
>"Transluminaphobia" sounds more like a fear of the translation into
>hyperspace. We haven't seen Mac react to warp space, fold drive, or
>metaspace, but he's quite obviously terrified of hyperspace.

In Hunted Rose, VAdm. Nakajima's battle group (with Mac and company aboard Charlemagne) made the transit from Earth to Bajor in metaspace. That was the first time we saw Mac's phobia in action.

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17. "RE: Dread Pirate Shustul..."
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   >>There are issues involved. First, unless they're showing on a space
>>station or somewhere where they get free local transport, Moose's van
>>is an utter necessity. Second, the others are not terribly confident
>>in Mac's shipbuilding abilities -or- his sanity behind the yoke.
>>G'Kron particularly feels Mac should not be allowed at the controls of
>>any vehicle, ever. Third, most of the group is somewhat aware, despite
>>Mac's attempts to conceal it, of his transluminaphobia, and are -not-
>>aware that his phobia is much lessened while he's at the controls of
>>his own ship... thus, even less confidence in him.
>>
>
>Um, just what is transluminaphobia? I can't find it on a net search.

Beyond-light-fear. Superluminaphobia also works, I suppose, but both are mixing one's Latin and one's Greek IIRC.

Mac caught a terror of FTL at a very early age, and as such FTL is one of his obsessions: he knows all the basic non-classified information on all known or theoretical FTL systems, -and- everything bad that can happen using them, -and- every medical condition ever ascribed to them.

Mac has -just- enough control over his phobia that he can function while in the grip of it, and even pretend (badly) that the phobia doesn't exist. FTL transit, however, is a wearing experience for Mac, and usually a long hyperspace journey will leave him utterly unfit for at least a day afterwards. The effect isn't nearly as severe, Mac has discovered, with his own ship and his own hand at the controls... but engaging the hyperdrive is still one of the hardest things there is for him to do.

Redneck


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