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Pasha
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"Thermal Katie"
 
   Ok, being as Katsujinkenryuu students can pull a Shadow and dissapper, but can only hide themselves, not their influence on the world (Their shadows, footprints, stuff like that) would they show up pretty much clear as day on a thermal scan? being as all they air around them would be nice and hot.
Or do I need to stop thinking that these things that I think up at 0300 are good ideas?

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Thermal Katie Griever Dec-29-01 1
  RE: Thermal Katie Gryphonadmin Dec-29-01 2
     RE: Thermal Katie Mister Fnord Dec-29-01 3
     RE: Thermal Katie Shadowhavoc Dec-29-01 4
     RE: Thermal Katie Star Ranger4 Dec-30-01 5
         RE: Thermal Katie Kylone Dec-30-01 6
             RE: Thermal Katie megazone Dec-30-01 7
         RE: Thermal Katie Pasha Dec-30-01 8
             RE: Thermal Katie Laudre Dec-30-01 9
                 RE: Thermal Katie StClair Dec-31-01 10

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Griever
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Dec-29-01, 12:32 PM (EDT)
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1. "RE: Thermal Katie"
In response to message #0
 
   >Ok, being as Katsujinkenryuu students can pull a Shadow and dissapper,
>but can only hide themselves, not their influence on the world (Their
>shadows, footprints, stuff like that) would they show up pretty much
>clear as day on a thermal scan? being as all they air around them
>would be nice and hot.
>Or do I need to stop thinking that these things that I think up at
>0300 are good ideas?
>

Hmm , pay heed to the fact that this is only an uneducated
guess , and that I've noly seen the movie about the Shadow .

I suppose that they _would_ show up on thermal scans ,
seeing as the Shadow trick influences only the minds of other
people (I think) . 'The clouded mind sees nothing' or
something like that .

The fact is , however , that since somebody using that
technique is likely good at clouding other peoples'
minds , it should be no problem to make them think that
there are no anomalous readings on the thermal scanners .
Therefore , they _do_ show up on the scans , but the
guy with the scanner ignores it .

On the other hand , that probably works only against
those who the person using the technique can see , or
is otherwise aware of.

Or I'm shooting _waaaayyy_ of target here and the above
is utter nonsense .

-Griever
no.1 worst smelling food ? - packed buttered popcorn .
Smells like old socks . Ewwwww.


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Gryphonadmin
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2. "RE: Thermal Katie"
In response to message #0
 
   >Ok, being as Katsujinkenryuu students can pull a Shadow and dissapper,
>but can only hide themselves, not their influence on the world (Their
>shadows, footprints, stuff like that) would they show up pretty much
>clear as day on a thermal scan? being as all they air around them
>would be nice and hot.

Somebody's got to be looking at the display, some conscious entity interpreting it.

Or -

say it with me, kids -

"Don't investigate this too closely."

--G.
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Mister Fnord
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3. "RE: Thermal Katie"
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>say it with me, kids -
>
>"Don't investigate this too closely."

Ain't fans just the most wonderful critters in the world?


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'No, no! The adventures first,' said the Gryphon in an impatient tone: 'explanations take such a dreadful time.'"

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Shadowhavoc
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Dec-29-01, 10:35 PM (EDT)
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4. "RE: Thermal Katie"
In response to message #2
 
   >Somebody's got to be looking at the display, some conscious entity
>interpreting it.
>
>Or -
>
>say it with me, kids -
>
>"Don't investigate this too closely."
>
Like broken snowshovels.

Sunspots.....


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Star Ranger4
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Dec-30-01, 05:33 AM (EDT)
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5. "RE: Thermal Katie"
In response to message #2
 
   >
>Somebody's got to be looking at the display, some conscious entity
>interpreting it.
>
>Or -
>
>say it with me, kids -
>
>"Don't investigate this too closely."
>

Heh. I was going to split the difference, myself... people in direct vision contact (wearing IR goggles, for instance) would have their minds clouded, while someone who owasnt (and therefore kate didn't know about wouildint.. like someone watching a videotape at a later date.

However, the MST3k rule makes much more sense in the long run. ^_^


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Of COURSE you wernt
expecting it!
No One expects the
FANNISH INQUISITION!

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6. "RE: Thermal Katie"
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>
>However, the MST3k rule makes much more sense in the long run. ^_^
>

I must admit that I only have a psssing familiarity with MST3K, and as such don't get the reference above. Would anyone be so kind as to enlighten me?

--Chris

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"The warrior is (easily) defeated, especially at higher levels."


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Dec-30-01, 09:27 AM (EDT)
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7. "RE: Thermal Katie"
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   >I must admit that I only have a psssing familiarity with MST3K, and as
>such don't get the reference above. Would anyone be so kind as to
>enlighten me?

From the theme: "If you're wondering how he eats and breathes, or other science facts / Repeat to yourself 'Its just a show, I should really just relax'"


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Pasha
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Dec-30-01, 03:29 PM (EDT)
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8. "RE: Thermal Katie"
In response to message #5
 
   >Heh. I was going to split the difference, myself... people in direct
>vision contact (wearing IR goggles, for instance) would have their
>minds clouded, while someone who owasnt (and therefore kate didn't
>know about wouildint.. like someone watching a videotape at a later
>date.

See, the thing that I had pictured in my head was that the air around her would be hot. So thermal directly from her body would be ignored, but her thermal "shadow" would still be there. Actually, I think that I keep thinking of it, 'cause it think that it would be a *really* neat fx shot...

>However, the MST3k rule makes much more sense in the long run. ^_^

This is, however, true to a letter. :-)

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9. "RE: Thermal Katie"
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   >See, the thing that I had pictured in my head was that the air around
>her would be hot.

Possibly. Humans radiate, but not much; not enough to cause a significant change in the air around us. Most of that is captured by our clothing, anyway; that's part of the reason we wear clothes in the first place, so that we can be comfortable in temperatures cooler than our own body temperatures. (One of the reason I'm partial to cooler climes is because my own normal temperature is higher than human average by more than a degree, and because I prefer wearing clothing that covers most of my body.)

-- Sean --

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10. "RE: Thermal Katie"
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   Random factoids on this general subject:

Last I checked, a human is about equivalent to a 100 watt bulb. (Add lampshades as appropriate.) And almost half of that goes out through the head - all that blood flow to the brain, doncha know. The ancient Greeks thought the brain's function was a radiator, to cool the blood. (Makes sense to me. It even explains the convolutions of the cerebellum: to increase surface area to volume, just like the radiator in your house. The Greeks were *wrong*, but they weren't stupid.)

That's why putting on a hat warms you up so fast, by the way.

I could go on about sweat glands, but I think that would be even more off topic. :)


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