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"Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
 
   All right, this is going to take a bit of backstory. Let's jump right in: Years ago, I lost my gaming dice.

I had a lot of them, accumulated over the years from when I started playing Dungeons & Dragons in Smart Kid Class in grade school (I must have told that story sometime) through my time at WPI. The last time I saw them was in... gosh... 2002 or 3, a year or so after I moved back to Maine, when I went back to MA for a day to play in the finale of Eric Reuss's D&D3E campaign (the Einar Skinnarland game).

At some point between that trip and the last big rearrangement of my house (ca. 2009), the suitcase I took on that trip disappeared. I've looked everywhere I can think of for it and can't find it anywhere, which is weird, since it's a full-size vintage Samsonite and it's orange, so you wouldn't think it would be particularly elusive. Nevertheless, I've lost the damn thing somewhere, and I was absolutely certain that wherever it had gone, it had taken three things with it that I had last seen on that trip:

1) My big bag of dice;
2) A journal I used for gaming notes, and which had the latest version of Einar's gear and some crib notes Eric provided for what had happened in the game world since I last played; and
3) A copy of Morgan Robertson's novel The Wreck of the Titan, or Futility,* which I was reading at the time.

Of the three, I was most annoyed about the loss of the dice. I don't play tabletop games any more, but those things had a lot of sentimental value.

Fast-forward to a few weeks ago, during part of the operation to rearrange things out on the porch, clear away some of the rubble, etc. At one point, quite at random, I noticed a red clothbound book sitting on the arm of the old sofa that's been parked out there for years. Picking it up, I discovered that it was my copy of Futility. This completely baffled me, because I was certain it was in the lost suitcase, and equally certain that there had been no book where I found it the last time I was out there. This sent me on another furious tear looking for the suitcase, which still did not appear.

Now let's skip ahead to today, when Dad and I were bringing boxes of overflow books in from the porch to shelve in the new bookcases. While I was out there checking one of those boxes, I happened to move out of my way an old peach basket that someone had put some random gubbins into during some previous clear-away. This contained some random nicknacks that probably came with the house, some old mail that I almost certainly didn't need to keep, and, lying right on top in plain view... this.

Now... what the hell? Has that been there the whole time? Why have I never noticed it in any previous search?

And where in Christ's name is that feckin suitcase?!

So, uh, anyway! Found my dice.

And also my gaming journal. And a pen that almost certainly doesn't work, given that it's been through however many winters' freeze-thaw cycles out on the unheated porch—assuming it hasn't been stashed in some lost-items parallel dimension this whole time.

Here are some of the highlights:

These are the d10s from a Marvel Super Heroes Advanced Set. I think you were meant to read the green one as the tens place and the red one as the ones place, though I might have that backward. In any event, I've never been in the habit of rolling 2d10 for a percentile roll, so I didn't use them that way.

These are the dice I always used to play BattleTech and MechWarrior. They're also the only green pip d6es I've ever seen.

When I started playing Shadowrun in high school, I suddenly needed many, many more d6es. Fortunately, I found them by raiding my family's board games cabinet (note to the young: every family used to have one of these, as far as I know), wherein there was a copy of Challenge Yahtzee we had tried to play once and then put away forever. Challenge Yahtzee was a weird dice-poker variant that my family just didn't cotton to. You rolled the big red dice, and the little white ones were for keeping track of your "hand". There should be four more of the small ones, but they evidently got lost somewhere along the way.

I bought these dice as an act of sarcasm, after my Shadowrun GM accused me of using the tiny Challenge Yahtzee dice to gloss over failed rolls. The next time I was in Bangor, at the little game store that used to be down there, I saw these oversized novelty dice (normal-sized red one for scale) and bought as many of them as were needed for the most common roll my character had to make (I think it might have been the size of his Hacking pool). Unfortunately, I seem to have rolled only three successes this time.

These battle-scarred survivors are the dice from an original 1977 Dungeons & Dragons Basic Set. They are the first RPG dice I ever used, as they were the ones in the set we used for the campaign in Smart Kids class. When that class closed at the end of the year, and it had been made clear to the instructor that D&D would not feature in future curricula, I think I won the set in a drawing, or possibly I was just the ony one who wanted it. I was nine, I can't remember for sure now. Either way, I ended up with it.

Compare those dice, beat as they are, to the ones from a 1983 red-box Basic Set. It's kind of funny in retrospect that D&D was a much bigger phenomenon, and TSR presumably had a lot more money to throw at the product, in 1983 vs. 1977, and yet the 1983 dice are kind of puny and lacking. Somewhere along the line, I lost the d12 and d4 from this set.

This is not a die, it's a wumpa fruit, but it was in the bag. It originally came with a Crash Bandicoot action figure, and was probably in my dice bag because I played Crash in a homebrew tabletop game for a while. I RPed him with an Australian accent that would probably be prosecutable as a war crime, but I think the statute of limitations has expired by now.

There are lots more in there, but those are the ones that have particular stories attached that I can still remember now. There is a translucent orange d10 in the bag—you can see it just below the lefthand end of the Ziploc banner next to that blue d8—that I feel has some significance, but I can't remember now what it is, only that it feels like it was once important. The Force is strong with it, if that makes any damn sense at all. No idea why, though; the actual memory itself is gone.

--G.
* Futility is a story about the largest ocean liner in the world, the Titan, which hits an iceberg and sinks with great loss of life, largely because there are not enough lifeboats aboard. If that sounds like a pretty obvious plot, please note that this book was published in 1898, fourteen years before the largest ocean liner in the world, the Titanic, hit an iceberg and sank with great loss of life, largely because there were not enough lifeboats aboard.
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  RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 MuninsFire Mar-20-19 1
     RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 Gryphonadmin Mar-20-19 2
         RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 MuninsFire Mar-20-19 3
             RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 Gryphonadmin Mar-20-19 4
                 RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 MuninsFire Mar-20-19 5
  RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 Zemyla Mar-24-19 6
  RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 BobSchroeck Mar-28-19 7
     RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 Gryphonadmin Mar-28-19 8
         RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 Zemyla Mar-29-19 11
         RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2 BobSchroeck Apr-23-19 12
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MuninsFire
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1. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   Sarcastic dice are always funny....somewhere around here, if the cats haven't moved it, I've got a bag of joke dice - like, a d5, a d36, that sort of thing. I've been meaning to bring 'em along when I DM to see how long it takes the players to realize that something's funny.

And yeah, I have...a lot of stories about things showing up in places that those things were certainly not at the previous day/month/whatever.

--
In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome
decree,
Where Alph, the sacred river,
ran
Through caverns measureless to
man
Down to a sunless sea


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2. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   >Sarcastic dice are always funny....somewhere around here, if the cats
>haven't moved it, I've got a bag of joke dice - like, a d5, a d36,
>that sort of thing. I've been meaning to bring 'em along when I DM to
>see how long it takes the players to realize that something's funny.

Is a d5 just a d10 that only goes from 1 to 5 twice?

--G.
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3. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   No - that'd make -sense- ;-)

It's something like this set but IIRC I have one more in mine.

(unfortunately, I think the cats have hidden it on me as I couldn't find 'em just now)

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In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome
decree,
Where Alph, the sacred river,
ran
Through caverns measureless to
man
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4. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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>It's something like
>this set but IIRC I have one more in mine.

Oh, OK. Weird irregular polygons and/or curved shapes.

I used to have a Zocchihedron, but it's not with the rest of my dice. No idea what became of it. It didn't work very well, anyway; like the golf ball it resembled, it would tend to just roll indefinitely on any surface hard enough for it to roll on at all, despite the weights inside that were meant to stop that from happening. More of an amusing novelty item than anything else.

(It's also a great case study in an engineer solving a problem that nobody had in the first place. :)

--G.
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5. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   Yep. More of a novelty than owt I'd use seriously (and, well, most of my TTRPG is via Roll20 at the moment - my shadowrun group is, shall we say, "distributed") but kind of a fun little gag.

I've seen the zocchihedrons before, but never owned one myself - I just use 2d10 like Gygax intended ;-)

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In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome
decree,
Where Alph, the sacred river,
ran
Through caverns measureless to
man
Down to a sunless sea


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6. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   I've lost so many dice in the past, too. My dice and my gaming notebook were in a laptop bag, which didn't actually have a laptop in it. Someone broke into my dad's car, swiped the bag, and probably just threw it out afterwards. D:


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7. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   Whoa, that brings back memories... When I saw the first pic, my eye immediately fell on the blue d12 in the middle of the bottom of the bag and I said to myself, "that's an original D&D die". Because I had the same set once.

Unfortunately, my original dice and the handmade red doubleknit bag they were in was one of the things taken when our apartment was burgled a good 25 years or more ago. I've since rebuilt my supply, of course, but I lost a few things I've never gotten around to replacing, like the backgammon doubling die I used to roll to generate a target percentage for a player to beat when I couldn't be bothered to reason one out, or the 30-sider that was surprisingly useful at times.

-- Bob
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8. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   >Unfortunately, my original dice and the handmade red doubleknit bag
>they were in was one of the things taken when our apartment was
>burgled a good 25 years or more ago.

What a weird thing to take. Did the thieves think it was a bag of unset gems, or gold nuggets, or something, do you suppose? Bizarre.

That reminds me tangentially of the time that the GweepCo apartment got broken into, late one night during the '91-'92 school year. Whoever it was got in late at night, while everyone who was at home was asleep. One of the guys, and I can't remember which one, had his girlfriend sleeping with him; she woke up while the intruder was in the room and whispered to her boyfriend about it, and his only response was to mumble, "It's just someone who broke in to steal all our stuff." (He claimed the next day that he thought it was just his roommate, who was out that night and who he assumed had forgotten his wallet or something.) The next morning, a bunch of things were missing, including—simultaneously a bit chillingly and a bit hilariously—a pile of Canadian money that had been on that guy's bedstand.

(A Canadian dollar was worth about 60 U.S. cents at the time, so I'm guessing that was one disappointed thief when he got someplace where the light was better. He also took the keyboard from Derek Bacon's PCjr—approximately the most worthless keyboard ever issued with a personal computer. Not, I think it's safe to speculate, one of the underworld's leading citizens.)

>or the 30-sider that was surprisingly useful at times.

Oh wow, I remember 30-siders. I can't remember if I had one myself, or if one of the others in my little gaming group did, but somebody had one, back in the day.

--G.
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11. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   30 siders may not be that useful, even in RIFTS (which I've played a couple of times), but they sure are fun. They're not too round to roll reasonably, even if just barely so, and seeing the skewed rhombuses is pleasing to me in a way I can't quite articulate.


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12. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   >>Unfortunately, my original dice and the handmade red doubleknit bag
>>they were in was one of the things taken when our apartment was
>>burgled a good 25 years or more ago.
>What a weird thing to take. Did the thieves think it was a bag of
>unset gems, or gold nuggets, or something, do you suppose? Bizarre.

I haven't a clue. 25 years ago, the mainstream was still looking askance at roleplaying games, worried that they might get too close, so either I was burgled by gamers, or J. Random Thief thought all the weird dice were cool and took'em just because.

>>or the 30-sider that was surprisingly useful at times.
>Oh wow, I remember 30-siders. I can't remember if I had one myself,
>or if one of the others in my little gaming group did, but somebody
>had one, back in the day.

I keep meaning to see if anyone still sells them, but I never do.

'Scuse me while I open another tab and finally find out.

Well, whaddaya know, Amazon sells them. Of course. Amazon sells everything, even stuff that doesn't exist.

<clicks "add to cart">

-- Bob
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9. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   I'd like to hear more about this time you played Crash Bandicoot.


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10. "RE: Blast from the Past dep't, Item 2"
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   >I'd like to hear more about this time you played Crash Bandicoot.

Well... you remember that random gaming recap from a while ago? Joe Drake wasn't the only character I played in that game, he was more of a one-off for that session. My usual character was Crash, which I think happened for no better reason than I was totally stuck for an idea during character generation and I chanced to notice the original game sitting by the PlayStation.

He was... pretty much like you find him in the game; cheerful, indestructible, not too bright. With an added layer of "mutant Australian animal" tropes from the old Palladium Mutants Down Under supplement to TMNT/After the Bomb, simply because his portrayal in the original platformer game wasn't exactly what you would call deep enough to sustain a serious (or even not-very-serious) roleplaying effort. I seem to recall I played him as quite a lot swearier than you'd actually get in an OG PlayStation game aimed at kids. :)

Sample dialogue, paraphrased from very, very old memory fragments:

OTHER CHARACTER
So... you were genetically engineered by a mad scientist as part of a plan to take over the world?

CRASH
'Sright.

OC
How does one mutant animal get anyone closer to taking over the world?

CRASH
(cheerfully)
Fucked if I know, mate. I'm a fuckin' bandicoot.

--G.
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