• Where did Gui/Guy come from (not biologically! :), given that
  >>he apparently wasn't in the Author's mind when Priss was first
  >>conceived (pun intended :)?
  >
  >Well, King of Braves Gaogaigar, mostly.
  >
  >>
• Does Gryphon have any children other than the 5 (+Vision) that
  >>we've already seen?

Now there's an evasive answer, if ever I saw one... Still, Gryphon doesn't strike me as the sort to have kids and not know about them. Though I suppose I can think of situations where that may happen, he just doesn't strike me as the medival womanizing baron type...

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yeah, but remember there is the wife whose paper trail disappeared

Vision(Mk. 1.0)?

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i believe gryph actually calls her reika, but yes
last he knew she went to earth, and then the records were lost in gemon takeover

• Where did Gui/Guy come from (not biologically! :), given that
  >>he apparently wasn't in the Author's mind when Priss was first
  >>conceived (pun intended :)?
  >
  >Well, King of Braves Gaogaigar, mostly.
  >
  >>
• Does Gryphon have any children other than the 5 (+Vision) that
  >>we've already seen?

From Christmas Rose:

"So where's Kei?" Zoner asked.
"Yamaki," said Gryphon in a rather disgruntled tone as he sat
down next to Kate's place. "She left last night."
"At Christmastime? She never takes holiday assignments
anymore."
"Oh, she'll be back for Christmas Eve, or there'll be -hell-
to pay," Gryphon assured his friend. "What about Yuri?"
"She's with the Other Man," said Sylvie offhandedly.
"I thought -I- was the Other Man," Gryphon protested.
"The -other- Other Man," Sylvie said patiently. "The
Corporate One."
"Oh, him," said Gryphon with a dismissive gesture. "Bah. And
Didi?"
"With her mother," Zoner answered over his shoulder, "she
should be here for Christmas dinner."

Who's Didi? An as-yet-unseen sibling of Sylvie's?

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... sort of.

I really should Stalinize that line.

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She's my daughter, but not with Yuri. She's never appeared, as of yet.

She is the oldest of all the children, having been conceived during The Exile. But it is in one of the stories I never got around to writing, but may still someday.

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Does she have a younger brother (on the way) named Dexter? :)

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If I'm parsing the reference correctly, given previous UF episodes, I would say that no, she does not. She probably is a pretty lady, with pale skin and dark hair, like her mother's. The kohl around the eyes is optional, as is the ankh. And her mother's family is very, very old. One might even say ... endless.

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Bingo. She's taller than her mom - gets that from me. I'm pale too (Irish blood) so she gets that from both of us. Dark hair, thin - very pretty.

Doesn't go for the kohl or the ankh.

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Funny. Her mother, even what we've seen of the UF mutation, doesn't strike me as the maternal type. Unless it has something to do with that once-a-century thing?

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This has gone completly over my head. Probably comes with me burying myself in fantasy novels. I've missed half of the refrences in UF but I've got to ask, who's the mother???

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Crops and wells alike despoiled,
Mountains levelled, forests felled,
-footprints of the beasts of Keld

Death.

the daughter of death is named didi? where is that from?

Death: The High Cost of Living. Sort of. Not actually her daughter; an incarnation's name. As I've said, she's not really the maternal type, though if she did have a child, I'm sure she'd be a much better parent than her younger brother.

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As opposed to her granddaughter, who is named Susan and swings a mean poker...

Lo, I am become Susan, destroyer of worlds...

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Heh, I only got around to reading that one yesterday.

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ya know, this makes sense, this makes alot of sense.
thanks for answering what, in hindsight, is a question I should of known.

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No. No relation at all, completely different source.

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Does one of those stories involve MegaZone being 'hogtied and dragged to the altar' by Yuri, or hasn't she got round to sending out a posse yet?

drakensisthered

SHE'S the 'Pirate Killer,' 'Klingon Spooker,' 'Big Trouble in a Little Package,' 'She Who Must be Avoided,' and 'Go Around the Other Side of the Nebula.' I'm the dumb blonde comic relief.

They definitely aren't married at the end of Core. I haven't really decided if they've married by the time of SotS - but I lean towards probably not.

In the real world I'm not as down on marriage as an institution as I used to be, but I still don't really see the point aside from the tax breaks and other legal crap.

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Which means that UF-Gryph a) has children he doesn't know about, or b) there are no examples of them as yet in Gryph's mind, but he doesn't want to eliminate the possibility of Gryph's past deeds in Exile coming up and knocking on his front door, so to speak.

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>Balance things a bit so it doesn't look like the men are off sowing
>their wild oats while the little women stay home... since it
>certainly isn't the case.

Eta pravda. Yuri's boyfriend gets to sleep over - she's not sounding repressed. Kei always seemed a little bit more monagamous, which is cool. After all, she makes the calls on these things, Gryph certainly doesn't.

Once upon a time I though that the boys were having a little too much fun, and while the girls weren't kinder, kirche, and kuche, they seemed less wild and crazy. Then the management reminded me of above. They are the Dirty Pair, after all...

Anyway, Yuri's teddy bears, and Kei's apparent (no evidence to the contrary yet!) monogamy balances them out.

t.

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Kei has her "wouldn't that be nice" list (who doesn't?), but doesn't seem terribly inclined to pursue it, at least not at the moment. Perhaps she's waiting for the kids to be out of the house, who knows. :)

By sheer coincidence, we'll be meeting one of the fellas on that list in the next installment. :)

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It'll be pretty plain.

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Why yes, it was.

- Tom

And the truth comes out... now we all can see that the reason Picard kept getting offers on Risa had NOTHING to do with that little statue Will gave him! ^_^ Clearly, that's not a lack of hair, its a solar power cell for a sex magnet.

<<Author takes off running in a vain attempt to outrun the NBS>>

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Jer told Vaughn about me. I am once again a victim of Murphy's law...

*trips him as he pounds by* *PHWEET!!*

tramptramptramptramptramp

_tramptramptramptramptramp_

TRAMPTRAMPTRAMPTRAMPTRAMP

*WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAM*

Y'know, the really strange thing is that part of my mind keeps trying to insist that Kei&Jean Luc should be a bad image, even though it isn't, really.

Blessed be.
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Nice thing is, Kei can fend off Lwuxana much better than Jean-Luc can.

--rR

This generated a really strange mental image for a minute until I parsed your actual meaning. I think you could have phrased that better, since if Kei did lean in that direction, I don't think Lwaxana Troi would be quite her type.

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Yummy! Kei has excellent taste. How did you make him sexy? He wasn't sexy on the TV show! His affairs always seemed a little too precontrived. I could never watch without flinching. Wow, you made Jon-Luc sexy...without being stilted.

(please note my amazement, since I've seen practically every episode of ST:NG, and thought Patrick Stewart was ok, but not a babe magnet.)

I am amazed,
t.

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(shrug)

I don't really know - I mean, it's not a personal impression or anything. I just... sort of went with what was there.

I suspect part of the problem on the TV show was that they were always pairing him up with extremely unlikeable women, like Lwaxana and Vash. In Insurrection, he has an interesting little to-do with one of the people he's trying to help, and it has some rather nice moments - largely because that character isn't horribly annoying and/or comically dishonest. (I especially like the part in which he warns the woman, with a straight face, that he's always had a thing for older women - it makes sense if you've seen the movie... :)

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ummm...memory serves yuri did at least once
and we know him well

>ummm...memory serves yuri did at least once
>and we know him well

Actually, Yuri had two flings... One was R-Type, and the other was just some college kid named Ben.

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Damn, I'd forgotten that one. Classic.

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So, Yuri had a child with someone else? I must've missed that...

Please, pay attention.

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I believe he was talking about Yuri having had a fling with someone other than story-Zoner and story-Larry, not having children with someone other than story-Zoner.

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... which would have been fine, if non-child-producing flings had been what the conversation was about.

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Well, that's true, and it's also not true. While the original message in this part of the thread was about child-producting flings, all non-MZ messages (which is every other message, #25, 29, 36) in this part of the thread contain references to a non-cpf. So one could say that the conversation had changed from one about a cpf (1 message) to a non-cpf (3 messages).

I'm trying to figure out why people are getting snide comments by the moderators for commenting about Yuri's one night stand.

Teach me to try to clarify anything around here.

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Jeanne

... One of us is analyzing things too closely, and I don't think it's me. :)

Ah, well. Back to work...

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No, it is true - period.

The post in question was a direct reply to my post, and even quoted the relevant bit. But in the reply he hinted at her fling with Ben as if it contradicted my statement. Which, of course, it in no way does.

Other branches don't enter into it. Nor do other replies that followed his, my reply was to his incorrect refutation of my statement about Yuri's reproductive history.

>I'm trying to figure out why people are getting snide comments by the
>moderators for commenting about Yuri's one night stand.

1. Because the comment (singular) that produced my snide reply was factual incorrect when presented, as it was, as a counter to my statement.
2. Because I felt that the reply to my post was, itself, snide.
3. Because I'm in a terrible mood.

BTW, it isn't a one night stand. It is an ongoing event.

>Teach me to try to clarify anything around here.

Nothing needed clarifying though, I think we all knew what was being said - it was just wrong.

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(For sufficiently sporadic definitions of "ongoing". :)

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I'm not asking for further explanantion - the distinction is to my mind irrelevant - I just thought your response was commentworthy.

Apologies for the WOG* reference.

drakensisthered

*WOG: World of Grayness. Like the World of Darkness, but less so.

Uh... whatever...

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ROIGHT! Stop that! Its silly... and a bit suspect I think.

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>>>I guess I can't see Kei doing it in the Exile - but I could see it
>>>with Yuri. Maybe with Larry - or maybe with someone else to be
>>>introduced.
>>ummm...memory serves yuri did at least once
>>and we know him well
>So, Yuri had a child with someone else? I must've missed that...

no, a fling
this, boys and girls, is why your english teachers try to get you to avoid the word 'it'

the statement as i read it
>>>I guess I can't see Kei doing {having sex} in the Exile - but I could see
>>>{having sex} with Yuri. Maybe with Larry - or maybe with someone else to be
>>>introduced.

and thus my reply should now make sense

>Please, pay attention.

i do
please make sure that you're clear in what you mean next time

How is this unclear - unless you reply to one paragraph out of context:

I said:

I think it'd be kind of neat if Kei or Yuri had a child from The Exile, or a child with a different father. It just seems kind of lopsided that Gryph and Zoner both have kids with other mothers (moreso Gryph).

I guess I can't see Kei doing it in the Exile - but I could see it with Yuri. Maybe with Larry - or maybe with someone else to be introduced.

It should be clear that the 'it' in the second paragrph refers to the childbearing of the first paragraph. At least that's what they taught me when I got my writing degree...

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OK, yellow card. Thread's beyond 50 posts and you've got Zoner waving his degree around. Time to let this one die.

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But, but... I'm certified!

(Private joke, nothing to see here...)

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