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"BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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LAST EDITED ON 08-12-03 AT 06:37 PM (EDT) Babylon Project Galactic Database Text Data Extraction Search: International Police Organization Outline Special Assignment 099 SEARCH COMPLETE: JUNE 4, 2409Overview Special Assignment 099, as its code number's "0" prefix shows, is a subgroup of Special Assignment 0, Weapon Zero. Its members are not publicly known to be members of the International Police; quite a few of them are, in fact, believed to be dead, or even mythical. Many members of Special Assignment 099 are adventurers whose careers pre-date the Wedge Defense Force era, making them some of the most experienced and skilled people the IPO has to call upon. Today they work in secret, shadowy figures half real and half mythological, opposing the enemies of decency anywhere and everywhere. They are The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Key Members of the League Allan Quatermain - Hero of H. Rider Haggard's King Solomon's Mines and other two-fisted Victorian adventure tales, Quatermain is commonly believed to have been a fictional character. He was, in fact, quite real, but the stories of his adventures were presented as fiction, as was the custom of the day, and posterity has come to think of him as mythical. (This is a common thread in the histories of many SA099 members.) Quatermain died in 1899 and went to Valhalla, where he eventually became the de facto leader of the Returnists, a group of the Einherjar who chose to return to corporeal life to contribute to the defense of Midgard from Surtur's revenge following the Ragnarok. He was the first of the Returnists to cross back to the mortal plane and quickly made contact with IPO Chief Benjamin "Gryphon" Hutchins. The two men became the architects of Special Assignment 099, though Quatermain professes not to think much of the codename Gryphon gave it. Allan Quatermain remains as he always was, an old-fashioned, two-fisted man of action. Apart from learning to drive a car, he hasn't modernized much; he still does his business with his fists, an antique Webley revolver (albeit one modified by the Valkyrie armorer Skuld Ravenhair, who is also IPO Chief Technologist), and the wits that served him for decades in the African bush, overlaid with all the lore and knowledge a man can pile up in five centuries of being one of the most noted figures in Valhalla. Dr. Henry Jekyll, M.D. - Another Returnist, Henry Jekyll began as a physician and biochemist in London in the late 1800s. His life changed when he developed a chemical formula which released the dark side of his personality, eventually developing a full-blown multiple personality disorder accompanied by an actual physical change into another person. Jekyll and his alternate personality, Edward Hyde (which see below), battled for domination of the shared body for years; the struggle lasted for years, encompassing at least one suicide attempt by each personality, until they at last struck a sort of balance. Jekyll and Hyde, having learned to cooperate, went to work as secret agents for the British government. In order to achieve a more lasting inner peace and balance, as well as hold his own in the adventures he and Hyde undertook for Britain, Jekyll studied Eastern martial arts, eventually becoming a master of kung fu. The interchanging duo together made an excellent agent: Jekyll, refined, handsome, and skillful, mastered infiltration and information-gathering, and when they got into scrapes, Hyde could always let his fists do the talking. The two eventually perished in Germany, having come out of retirement at an advanced age to undertake one last mission against Nazi occultists in 1939. When the pair went to Valhalla, they discovered that that they had become separate entities. Jekyll continued his martial studies under no less a personage than Aeryn Stonefist, the Valkyrie empty-hand specialist. He also kept his medical skills current with the help of the Valkyrie medic, Kijana Whitestaff. Master Sergeant Edward Hyde, 12th Troll Heavy Infantry (ret.) - Edward Hyde was originally quite a repulsive character, a distillation of all Henry Jekyll's repressed vices and darker urges. Ironically, with those vices and urges separated entirely from his psyche, Jekyll became weak and ineffectual, while without Jekyll's self-control, Hyde became dangerously reckless, exposing himself to the danger of discovery and destruction. Eventually the two personalities struck a healthier balance - Jekyll is the intellectual, calculating, technical side, while Hyde represents boldness and physical power. On his own in Valhalla, Hyde put his massive size and superhuman strength and durability to good use as a member of Asgard's elite troll infantry brigade, the only standing force of trolls outside Jotunheim. There he was regarded as a bit of a weakling (indeed, he was nicknamed "the Shrimp") until he proved himself as a warrior. Eventually he rose to the rank of Master Sergeant and achieved widespread recognition as one of the 12th Troll Heavy's top heavy weapons specialists. Though he is not as intelligent as Jekyll (who is a genius), Hyde is a cunning tactician and an expert in the use and maintenance of a wide range of modern Midgardian and Asgardian weaponry. When Allan Quatermain, an old acquaintance, floated the idea of going back to Midgard to take up what he referred to as "the sporting life" again, Jekyll and Hyde both jumped at the chance, but there was a catch - to return to corporeal life, they had to accept being combined into a single entity again, existing one at a time. After considerable soul-searching, they agreed. Today they apply their uniquely complementary abilities to the problems of the IPO. Originally, the transformation from Jekyll to Hyde and back again was accomplished with the ingestion of a chemical formula. That limitation no longer applies, and either can now choose to give control to the other at will. Since their minds are in constant low-level telepathic contact (rather like a Lens conversation), they can also attempt to wrest control from each other, but this is a contast which Jekyll, with his highly trained mind and martial concentration, almost always wins. Tom Sawyer - An agent of the United States Secret Service at the turn of the 20th century, Sawyer participated in the special mission which ended in the death of Allan Quatermain in 1899. He went on to become the father of American special intelligence, influencing such later figures as William "Wild Bill" Donovan, founder of the Office of Strategic Services in World War II, and is virtually unique among his contemporaries for having died at home in bed. Unlike Quatermain, Sawyer has kept up with the times. In Valhalla he studied extensively the methods and devices used by more modern agents as they entered the Warriors' Hall, amassing a comprehensive understanding of galactic politics and keeping his tradecraft skills and technical knowledge up to date. As a Returnist member of the League, he uses the latest cutting-edge gear available on the interstellar black market. Sawyer's trademark is his arsenal of military-grade blaster weapons, some of them not yet available to civilians (such as the new GENOM DC-15, the replacement for the venerable E-11 as standard issue to the White Legion). The two men are similar in the fact that they are dynamic men of action who prefer deeds to words. Their differences in approach lead them to bicker occasionally, but they are a tremendously effective team and should not be underestimated. Rodney Skinner (The Invisible Man) - A Victorian gentleman thief in the style of the late Arsene Lupin, Skinner stole the details of a process for rendering animal life forms invisible from a deranged scientist, thinking invisibility would make him invincible in his profession. Instead, he quickly discovered what the process's creator had learned to his chagrin - that irreversible invisibility is as much a limitation as an asset. He made the best of it, turning his thieving skills and invisibility to the service of his country as a special government agent. Skinner was killed in 1939, on the same mission which claimed the lives of Jekyll and Hyde. In Valhalla, he found himself visible again; undaunted, he did what any master thief would do. He researched matters alchemical and learned of the existence of the greatest stealth preparation in the Nine Worlds - the Draught of the Unseen, a potent potion owned by the Goblin King of Niflheim and used to make his agents undetectable. Then, after six months of careful study of the Goblin King's palace and intricate, detailed planning of his approach and exit, he stole it, becoming the first person ever to steal from the Goblin King and live. Infused with the Draught of the Unseen, Skinner has the power to make himself not only invisible to the human eye, as he was before, but also to most other detection methods. He can be heard, but reflects no electromagnetic or sonic energy and does not show up on an infrared or thermographic scan. Coupled with his highly refined skills as a sneak thief and cat burglar - which he has kept scrupulously up to date with the advance of technology - this ability makes him an almost unbeatable intelligence agent. Captain Nemo - A mysterious figure even to his friends and colleagues, Nemo is not a Returnist, for he never went to Valhalla. An apparent contemporary of Quatermain and the others, Nemo looks just the same now as he did then, which may imply that he is indeed very much older. He reveals nothing about where he came from or what he has done in the years since his Victorian acquaintances fell out of touch with him. All that is known for certain is that Captain Nemo is today the captain of the independent vessel Nautilus, a powerful warship utilizing advanced technologies of unknown origin. He has a loyal, closemouthed crew of spacers gathered from the far corners of the galaxy and answers fully to no authority but his own conscience. He is a brilliant scientist and engineer with an encyclopedic knowledge of outer space and its wonders and dangers, and seems to be a man deeply in love with the void - not because he is a nihilist, but because he is in tune with the beauty, harsh and dangerous though it is, of the heavens. He often refers to Nautilus as "The Sword of the Cosmos". Nemo placed himself at the disposal of Special Assignment 099 for his own reasons, reasons just as inscrutable as his history. He is trusted and vouched for by many of the other members, including Quatermain and Jekyll, but even they admit that they have never truly understood what drives the man. Gennai Hiraga - One of the few pre-Victorian figures among the Returnists, Gennai Hiraga died in 1779. In life he was a sort of Japanese Renaissance man - samurai, herbalist, physician, artist, satirist, engineer, inventor, student of the West, and more. He is credited with the invention of Japan's first electrostatic generator and the invention of new styles of art and satire. It is not generally known that he was also the first Earthman to identify and harness the exotic form of cosmic energy known as Getter radiation, nearly 400 years before its appearance in the scientific mainstream of the galaxy. In death, he only broadened his horizons. By the time of his return to corporeal life in 2402, Hiraga was a disciple of Skuld Ravenhair and a master of most modern technologies. He ranks as one of the greatest scientists and engineers in the galaxy today - and has also found time to become an expert in galactic history and the pre-Salusian epochs of galactic civilization, a speaker of over 200 languages, and a keen student of modern politics. Hiraga is also a powerful warrior, having refined his samurai techniques in Valhalla as well. In battle, he employs a number of high-tech weapons of his own creation, chief among them a portable Getter ray generator (worn as a belt) and a cybernetic control system which lets him manipulate the energies thus created. With this device, Hiraga can fly, generate blasts of destructive energy, shield himself with forcefields, and energize a specially-prepared sword with Getter rays, making it function in a manner similar to a Jedi lightsaber. Otto Liliental - The 19th-century Glider King, Liliental designed and flew gliders years before the Wright brothers, developing technologies later used in the pioneering powered aircraft, such as wing warping and the traditional empennage found on most twentieth-century airplanes. Liliental died in 1896 in a glider crash. Like Gennai Hiraga, whose friend he became in short order, Liliental kept his knowledge up to date while in Valhalla, and upon his return, he reasserted his claim to the title "King of the Air". Liliental is a brilliant aerospace engineer whose creations utilize the latest technology, but tend to have a distinctively retro slant. His main craft, which he simply calls "Rocket Glider Number 17", features a modern fusion microturbine and super-composite construction, giving it a toughness and power which belie its frail, primitive appearance. In the hands of the master, No. 17 is a terrifyingly effective weapon, capable of outmaneuvering a thrusterpacked jump infantryman and outshooting many modern light aerospace fighters. The King of the Air is an expert pilot who can fly anything with thrusters (and many things without), but he prefers his own creations. On the ground, he is considerably less powerful, but not completely helpless, being an excellent pistol shot and having some training in hand-to-hand combat. Other Members or Affiliates of the League Kent Allard (The Shadow) - A mystic avenger from the early twentieth century, Allard - usually under the alias "Lamont Cranston" - waged a secretive war against crime and evil for years before disappearing mysteriously during World War II. Though it is not generally known, he was involved in the 1939 incident which cost the lives of Jekyll, Hyde, and Skinner. Allard was also killed, but thanks to the occult nature of the incident, he did not pass to one of the normal afterlives. Instead, he lingered on the material plane for centuries, eventually possessing Gryphon for a brief period before being separated from his host by the Norns and sent to Valhalla. Allard, always an iconoclast, slipped away from Valhalla on numerous unauthorized expeditions to other realms, including the forbidden Tenth World, Cephiro. It was inevitable that he would eventually become a Returnist and a member of the League, though he remains at heart a loner and only joins the group when he is greatly needed. The Shadow is the archetype of the dark, avenging hero, with the Power to Cloud the Minds of Men and numerous other psychic or metapsionic gifts. His time in Valhalla and the other realms was spent in picking up more arcane knowledge and power, but his roots in the early 20th century are strong; even when employing Cephirean shadow magic, he lets his .45 automatics do the talking while he laughs his chilling laugh. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Wilhelmina Harker - Mina Harker is unusual among the members of the League in that she is, well, not a gentleman. Also, although she is not a Returnist, she is also the only one among them whose adventuring career began with her death. In the late 1800s, Mina was killed by Dracula, the infamous vampire prince of Wallachia, and transformed into a vampire herself. She assisted the famous vampire hunter Abraham Van Helsing in the destruction of Dracula, then became a special agent for the British government, using her special powers to serve the greater good (and, not incidentally, soothe the boredom and ennui which threatened to overtake her). A century later she was recruited into the special branch of the Wedge Defense Force by then-Supreme Commander MegaZone, who has a well-documented fondness for the undead. Today, Mina is primarily a member of the CID's Bureau of Paranormal Research and Defense, walking the galaxy's shadowy backstreets and watching for occult and mystic threats, but several members of the League are old friends, and she can be counted on to assist them in any way that won't blow their cover. John "Lobster" Johnson - Another hero of The Shadow's era, Johnson is another of the League members who is not a Returnist. As he discovered early in his career as a crimefighter, Lobster Johnson cannot die - at least, not permanently. The source of this ability is unknown, even to Johnson; all he knows is that if he is killed, even if his body is completely destroyed, he will return. Johnson possesses no other superpowers, but is a master tactician and expert hand-to-hand combatant. His trademark is a device built into his glove which can burn the symbol of the Lobster's Claw on most surfaces, including the foreheads of his victims. A loner like Kent Allard, Johnson has joined the League for a few adventures but remains primarily a free agent. Bernard Quatermass - Chief of the British Rocket Group in the mid-twentieth century, Quatermass was responsible for the prevention of several alien invasions of Earth in the pre-Contact era. A brilliant scientist and engineer as well as a man of action, Quatermass serves as the League's liaison with the IPO's Technical Division. No relation to Allan Quatermain, though apparently in Valhalla people were forever mixing them up. Arsene Lupin III - Grandson of the famed gentleman-burglar turned detective of the early twentieth century, Lupin the Third is primarily known for having stolen the gift of eternal life itself. Lupin's grandfather remains in Valhalla - he intends to return one day, but first he has to roll up all his operations in the Celestial Realms, which will take years to do neatly - and the younger man, also a Weapon Zero operative, is considered by the Leaguers to be a sort of honorary member in his grandfather's place. Aided by his crew of confederates, Arsene Lupin III is a master thief and man of action with a surprisingly honest heart. He and Rodney Skinner, recognizing each other's greatest achievements, jokingly share the title "Duke of Thieves". End of Text Data Extract thank you for using the Babylon Project Galactic Database
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Wedge
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Aug-12-03, 04:30 PM (EDT) |
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1. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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[It was the first thing that popped into my head. Have 'they' ever appeared onstage with AoN:NA? :)] Dr. Heckyll works late at the laboratory Where things are not as they seem Dr. Heckyll wishes nothing more desperately Than to fulfill his dreams Letting loose with a scream in the dead of night As he's breaking new ground Trying his best to unlock all the secrets But he's not sure what he's found Dr. Heckyll is his own little guinea pig 'Cos they all think he's mad Sets his sights on the search of a lifetime And he's never, never sad Whoa oh, its off to work he goes In the name of science and all its wonders This is the story of Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jive They are a person who feels good to be alive This is the story of Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jive Believes the underdog will eventually survive Not long now till the ultimate experiment He's breaking all the rules He wants to cure all matter of imbalance In this world of fools He locks the door and looks around nervously He knows there's no one there He drinks it down and waits for some reaction To all his work and care Hey, hey he fumbles for what to say He loves the world except for all the people This is the story of Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jive They are a person who feels good to be alive This is the story of Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jive Believes the underdog will eventually survive Whoa, oh, its out at night he goes He sips easily into conversation Hey hey, he's cool in every way Sometimes he likes to sing that old black magic This is the story of Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jive They are a person who feels good to be alive This is the story of Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jive Believes the underdog will eventually survive - Men at Work "Dr. Heckyll and Mr. Jive" Cargo
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stgermain
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Aug-12-03, 06:23 PM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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Neat! Have you read the original Alan Moore comic, or just seen the movie? The interpretation of Mina Harker is... ahem... rather different in the movie. So, for that matter, is the Invisible Man -- a completely different character, in fact. |
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Nathan
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Aug-12-03, 11:48 PM (EDT) |
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6. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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Seeing Lilientarl and Gennai as good guys is definitely worth the price of admission. (You should have seen my face when I placed Gennai's name, halfway through that paragraph - "heeeey... waitasec!" O_O). And, is there a Special Assignment 00# (IE, Agent 002, Agent 003, etc.)? Blessed be. -n |
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Berk
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Aug-13-03, 06:45 AM (EDT) |
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8. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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LAST EDITED ON 08-13-03 AT 06:52 AM (EDT) I knew that it would probably take some truly startling individuals to properly flesh out the bulk of Weapon Zero. But I never imagined that Weapon Zero would contain the Great Men (shameless Read Or Die ref).Good to see some of the coolest of the Ijin on the screen on the right side. Especially Ginnai. Even if he does have the most inapporpriate sense of archetecture around. It'd be amusing to see wether or not he has that nagging habit of mistaking archetecture. Gennai: *looks back at smouldering remains of the White House* Was this a library? Secret Service Suit: N-NO! Gennai: Ah. Oh well. - Berk Watkins Student of Quantum Bogodynamics |
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trigger
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Aug-13-03, 01:53 PM (EDT) |
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9. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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Pretty fabulous - only a couple things jumped out at me: >Rodney Skinner (The Invisible Man) - A Victorian >gentleman thief in the style of the late Arsene Lupin,
Um, wasn't this guy a it of a prick and a rapist to boot? Or was that another Moore invention? >Captain Nemo - A mysterious figure even to his friends and >colleagues, Nemo is not a Returnist, for he never went to Valhalla. Um...I'm willing to believe that Nemo is the most underappreciated and underrated genius ever spawned by Victorian literature (after all, how many non-Anglo heros are there in Victorian literature). But immortal or semi-immortal? Surely Nemo wouldn't have stood idly by as India went through it's revolutions. I can't imagine him tamely taking a back seat and lurking in the shadows...particularly if his technology and knowledge were valuable. Unless of course, he's the secret force behind the sudden domination of the software industry by Bangalore.... He often refers to Nautilus as "The Sword >of the Cosmos".
Hmm? I can't place the reference...did you create it? >Kent Allard (The Shadow) Wicked. > even when employing Cephirean shadow magic,
Ooh, this I gotta see... >Wilhelmina Harker - Mina Harker She kept her name? I would have thought that Jonathan would have freaked out and she would be still Mina Murry. >(and, not incidentally, soothe the >boredom and ennui which threatened to overtake her). Interesting, was she an active agent when recruited by the WDF. And was this part of the WDF superheros recruiting that included Jackie Chan? nifty, but aren't you starting to feel that you've recruited just about the known universe into the IPO? We've already cataloged what, 100 some characters. What about the IPO's enemies? What's with all the friends?
t. who isn't complaining but is starting to wonder if this might disolve into the Universal Fanfiction Parody. I trust the writing and the plots will hold it all together, but this cast of thousands thing...tends to distract from the main characters, don't y'a think? Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "These guys are as obvious as a weasel on acid." - Corwin Ravenhair |
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Offsides
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Aug-13-03, 02:11 PM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>who isn't complaining but is starting to wonder if this might disolve >into the Universal Fanfiction Parody. I trust the writing and the >plots will hold it all together, but this cast of thousands >thing...tends to distract from the main characters, don't y'a think? > The way I look at it, Gryphon & Co. are just finding productive ways to make use of the "What if so-and-so was in the UFVerse" conversations that probably come up rather regularly, and puts them into a sort of "holding bin" in case they're needed for anything. After all, if we have their backstory first, we're less likely to go clamoring for more details when they pop on screen briefly and then disappear again. And just because they were main characters in their own original setting, doesn't mean they have be major characters in UF. Just look how many characters have gotten passing references which, while they may have interesting stories on their own, don't have to be told in more than a couple of sentances at that time.As a good example, the scene with Optimus Prime in Requiem - he shows up, sings a song, and goes away. He didn't need to be in that scene, but it worked very well, and probably worked a lot better than if he'd stuck around. Just my $0.02. Offsides [...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #π #include <stdsig.h> |
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Gryphon
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Aug-13-03, 02:12 PM (EDT) |
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11. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>>Rodney Skinner (The Invisible Man) - A Victorian >>gentleman thief in the style of the late Arsene Lupin, > >Um, wasn't this guy a it of a prick and a rapist to boot? Or was that >another Moore invention? Oh, no, that was Hawley Griffin, the inventor of the invisibility formula. He was kicked to death by a mob in 1896. This is the invisible man from the LXG movie. (And, uh, yes, Griffin having been a rapist was one of Moore's inventions. In Wells's original book he was a thief and a killer, but no rapist.) >Um...I'm willing to believe that Nemo is the most underappreciated and >underrated genius ever spawned by Victorian literature (after all, how >many non-Anglo heros are there in Victorian literature). But immortal >or semi-immortal? So it would appear. But, as I said, he's a mysterious sort of fellow... >He often refers to Nautilus as "The Sword >>of the Cosmos". > >Hmm? I can't place the reference...did you create it? The LXG-movie version of Nemo refers to his Nautilus as "The Sword of the Ocean" when introducing her to the other members of the League. >>Wilhelmina Harker - Mina Harker > >She kept her name? I would have thought that Jonathan would have >freaked out and she would be still Mina Murry. Mrs. Harker prefers not to discuss her marriage, for good or bad, except to claim that she's a widow. (Given that she's 500-some years old, that's not an unreasonable claim. :) >Interesting, was she an active agent when recruited by the WDF. Yes. >was this part of the WDF superheros recruiting that included Jackie >Chan? No; Mina's recruitment was considerably less, uh, deliberate than Jackie's, or James Burke's, or most of the others involved in that project. >nifty, but aren't you starting to feel that you've recruited just >about the known universe into the IPO? Not at all. It's a big, big galaxy out there, and there are a lot of threats to be countered. >What about the IPO's enemies? What's with all >the friends? The files don't contain as much information about most of the bad guys - they have more of an air of mystery about them - and, as such, would probably not make quite as interesting reading. I've got a couple-three specific thoughts for some of them, and an overview of some of the larger criminal organizations may be in order as well, but you have to keep in mind that I do these things pretty much at my whim, not according to any plan. They're just bonus materials. >who isn't complaining but is starting to wonder if this might disolve >into the Universal Fanfiction Parody. I trust the writing and the >plots will hold it all together, but this cast of thousands >thing...tends to distract from the main characters, don't y'a think? No, I don't. Like I said, it's a big galaxy, and there's a lot of space for supporting cast (or even alternate leads, if I feel like going off in a different direction for a bit, like I did in, oh, say, Type Mismatch Error). Just because I do a file on someone doesn't mean they're about to become the next Utena Tenjou in terms of character importance - I mean, sure, Emma Frost was in Requiem for a Lensman, but I didn't even touch on all the complex and interesting history she's piled up since arriving in the UF universe - just as an example. Managing a large cast is a lot of work, yes, and there are times when it gives me a bit of a headache figuring out where everyone goes at any given point in time, but I don't think it detracts from the story - just makes my job a little harder. I think it adds flavor to know that there's a large and detailed universe with a lot of interesting characters behind the action you're seeing on the screen at any given time; even if the League never appear, it's nice to know they're out there somewhere, and they may come in handy someday. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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trigger
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Aug-13-03, 07:33 PM (EDT) |
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13. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>I've got a >couple-three specific thoughts for some of them, and an overview of >some of the larger criminal organizations may be in order as well, but >you have to keep in mind that I do these things pretty much at my >whim, not according to any plan. They're just bonus materials. Totally understood. Despite efforts to keep track of the prolific IPO/B6 database, this really isn't a "public" doc like your fanfiction. It's more like omake for the otaku. Which, means, of course, I love it when you write it. :) >No, I don't. Like I said, it's a big galaxy, and there's a lot of >space for supporting cast (or even alternate leads, if I feel like >going off in a different direction for a bit, like I did in, oh, say, >Type Mismatch Error). Just because I do a file on someone >doesn't mean they're about to become the next Utena Tenjou in terms of >character importance - Ah. That definitely helps. I like the side stories...but I like the main tale so much that I was worried. Call me greedy. >Managing a large cast is a lot of work, yes, and there are times when >it gives me a bit of a headache figuring out where everyone goes at >any given point in time, but I don't think it detracts from the story >- just makes my job a little harder. I think it adds flavor to know >that there's a large and detailed universe with a lot of interesting >characters behind the action you're seeing on the screen at any given >time; even if the League never appear, it's nice to know they're out >there somewhere, and they may come in handy someday. Thanks for the thoughtful explanation. ;) I appreciate the detail and the philsophy. yours, t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "These guys are as obvious as a weasel on acid." - Corwin Ravenhair |
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Micah Hakubi
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Aug-13-03, 08:35 PM (EDT) |
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14. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>>Captain Nemo - A mysterious figure even to his friends and >>colleagues, Nemo is not a Returnist, for he never went to Valhalla. > >Um...I'm willing to believe that Nemo is the most underappreciated and >underrated genius ever spawned by Victorian literature (after all, how >many non-Anglo heros are there in Victorian literature). But immortal >or semi-immortal? On the other hand, this entry in particular noted a spike in the repetition of 'YESYESYESYESYES!' cheering that was heard the first time I read it. Nemo is a particular favorite of mine(not discounting Allen Quatermain) because he's 1) A Scientist and Man Of Intelligence, and 2) he kicks serious ass, IE, the Warrior-Scientist. Rather in the same vien as another Man Of Bronze. :) As far as the immortality goes, I view it as a rather cool(if mysterious) thing. Either Nemo is not human, not human -anymore-, or he was smart enough to manage an Agapic Serum; It'll be nice if Gryphon ever sees fit to explain this in-fic. - Micah Hakubi Bastard Optimist at Large "Where Angels never dare..." |
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Nathan
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17. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>So, ah, does this mean Fujiko might be around somewhere. ^_^;; Of course. After all, whatever his skills in other respects, it's not like stealing -from- Lupin is any great feat. If you look like Fujiko does, anyway. Blessed be. -n (^_^) |
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ed_becerra
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Aug-13-03, 09:18 PM (EDT) |
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16. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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> A century later she was recruited into the special branch of > the Wedge Defense Force by then-Supreme Commander MegaZone, > who has a well-documented fondness for the undead.Okay, this just plain and simple broke me, Gryph. I spilled an entire bottle of Dew on my pants. ^_^ (It's particularly ironic, as the first women I fell for, back in 1981, was a goth who insisted she really _was_ a vampire which resulted in my developing a taste for gals like that). Out of curiosity (I haven't seen LXG yet, it hasn't come anywhere near the "blink once and you'll miss it" town that I live in), have either UF-you or UF-Zoner dealt with the problem most vamps have with sunlight? Mina would be at a bit of a disadvantage if she crumbles to dust at the touch of a sunbeam. Edward A Becerra |
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Laudre
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19. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>Out of curiosity (I haven't seen LXG yet, it hasn't come >anywhere near the "blink once and you'll miss it" town that >I live in), have either UF-you or UF-Zoner dealt with the >problem most vamps have with sunlight? Mina would be at a >bit of a disadvantage if she crumbles to dust at the touch >of a sunbeam. In the original Dracula novel, Dracula suffered from no such vulnerability. This is even specifically mentioned in Francis Ford Coppola's adaptation of same; furthermore, in the LXG movie, one of the few things that hinted vaguely at one of the screenwriters (probably the original, credited one, James Robinson) actually having read any of the source material was that Mina walked around in sunlight on the deck of the Nautilus without even blinking. -- Sean -- "All tribal myths are true, for a given value of 'true'." -- Terry Pratchett Drelau Productions The Broken Link
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Gryphon
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20. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>In the original Dracula novel, Dracula suffered from no >such vulnerability.Fans of the genre will recall that this particular problem of being one of the bloodsucking elite of the undead was introduced in 1922 by F.W. Murnau in Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens (Nosferatu: A Symphony of Terror, whence comes the name of the second Neon Exodus Evangelion season). The film features a vampire called Count Orlock (played by the sublimely named Max Schreck) who, at the end of the film, is disintegrated by sunlight. Well, fans of the genre whose knowledge of it extends beyond the World of Insufficient Light, anyway. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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Laudre
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21. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>>In the original Dracula novel, Dracula suffered from no >>such vulnerability. > >Fans of the genre will recall that this particular problem of being >one of the bloodsucking elite of the undead was introduced in 1922 by >F.W. Murnau in Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens >(Nosferatu: A Symphony of Terror, whence comes the name of the >second Neon Exodus Evangelion season). The film features a >vampire called Count Orlock (played by the sublimely named Max >Schreck) who, at the end of the film, is disintegrated by sunlight. Well, yes, I'm quite aware of how Orlock dies -- I've managed to catch Nosferatu on cable, and I've been meaning to get the DVD since it came out. I wasn't aware that Murnau's Dracula-with-the-serial-numbers-filed-off film was the first instance of it, though, given the timing, that's hardly surprising. I do believe that the idea exists, in some form, in the vampire mythology that existed before Stoker wrote his seminal novel. It's also true that, prior to Dracula, the vampires of folk myths and legends looked more like Orlock than Cound Dracula. (I remember seeing a very old illustration of a vampire whose chest consisted of a heart hanging in an empty ribcage.) -- Sean -- "All tribal myths are true, for a given value of 'true'." -- Terry Pratchett Drelau Productions The Broken Link
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ProjectPerko
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29. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>I do believe that the idea exists, in some form, in the vampire >mythology that existed before Stoker wrote his seminal novel. It's >also true that, prior to Dracula, the vampires of folk myths >and legends looked more like Orlock than Cound Dracula. (I remember >seeing a very old illustration of a vampire whose chest consisted of a >heart hanging in an empty ribcage.) Vampires of the ancient pan-Slavic variety were corpses that could not rest - seeking the heat and blood of living beings. I remember reading that they were usually associated with (and the explanation for) fatal lung diseases, like tuberculosis, and seeing pictures of them settled onto the chest of a sleeping victim. A bit more like ghouls than modern vampires, if I remember correctly. The later idea of a suave, sexy Byron-parody vampire was what made the entire concept so groundbreaking. A monster that couldn't be detected as a monstrosity until too late. Far scarier than some random ghoul that kills you in your sleep. -Craig |
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BobSchroeck
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22. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>The film features a >vampire called Count Orlock (played by the sublimely named Max >Schreck) who, at the end of the film, is disintegrated by sunlight. <nod> Nosferatu, btw, was (depending on how you look at it) either Dracula fanfiction or outright plagiarism; either way, it was extraordinarily influential when it came to cinematic vampires and their habits. >Well, fans of the genre whose knowledge of it extends beyond the World >of Insufficient Light, anyway. :) <chuckle> -- Bob (Whose paternal family folklore holds that Max Schreck was a rather distant cousin, although we've no proof one way or another...) ------------------- There is no spork.
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Mephron
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Aug-14-03, 09:24 AM (EDT) |
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23. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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LAST EDITED ON 08-14-03 AT 09:24 AM (EDT) >Fans of the genre will recall that this particular problem of being >one of the bloodsucking elite of the undead was introduced in 1922 by >F.W. Murnau in Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens >(Nosferatu: A Symphony of Terror, whence comes the name of the >second Neon Exodus Evangelion season). The film features a >vampire called Count Orlock (played by the sublimely named Max >Schreck) who, at the end of the film, is disintegrated by sunlight. Should you watch that movie, I recommend picking up, as the second half of the double feature, Shadow of the Vampire, with John Malkovitch as Murnau and Willem Defoe as Max Schreck. An amusingly fictionalized version of the making of Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens, it also has some interesting twists in it. But I digress..... -- Geoff Depew - Darth Mephron Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support. "I find your lack of clue disturbing." |
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juniper
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24. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>In the original Dracula novel, Dracula suffered from no >such vulnerability. This is even specifically mentioned in Francis >Ford Coppola's adaptation of same; furthermore, in the LXG movie, one >of the few things that hinted vaguely at one of the screenwriters >(probably the original, credited one, James Robinson) actually having >read any of the source material was that Mina walked around in >sunlight on the deck of the Nautilus without even blinking. In the book (which I have read) Dracula thinks to himself that he likes London because the sunlight is diffused by the perpetual fog, and sunlight annoys his eyes and diminishes - but does not stop - his powers. The impression I got was that being a nocturnal hunter, he finds the sunlight overly harsh/bright and getting in his way. I was quite pleased to see that Mina, being one of Dracula's "progeny" had a similar lack of difficulty with it. (Though we never did get a reference to her boxes of earth, which -were- required by Dracula and which is a weakness that would need to be dealt with in some fashion if she were going anywhere for a protracted period of time.)
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trigger
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26. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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LAST EDITED ON 08-14-03 AT 01:51 PM (EDT) >Ironically, almost all modern versions dispense with the home soil >requirement entirely (and make sunlight the crippling disability, as >noted above). I guess toting a big pine box full of dirt around with >you everywhere wasn't "sexy." Hmm, a recent variant was the introduction of a braclet that held some "mother earth" attached to the vampire at all times, relieving the need to cart a full box o'dirt. That innovation is courtesy of Mercedes Lackey who wrote about a bishonen vampire what had no permanent lair. t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "These guys are as obvious as a weasel on acid." - Corwin Ravenhair |
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JeanneHedge
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40. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>>Ironically, almost all modern versions dispense with the home soil >>requirement entirely (and make sunlight the crippling disability, as >>noted above). I guess toting a big pine box full of dirt around with >>you everywhere wasn't "sexy." > >Hmm, a recent variant was the introduction of a braclet that held some >"mother earth" attached to the vampire at all times, relieving the >need to cart a full box o'dirt. That innovation is courtesy of >Mercedes Lackey who wrote about a bishonen vampire what had no >permanent lair. Andre LeBrel, who spends the daylight hours in libraries and movie theaters! I was re-reading Children of the Night for the gazillionth time just last week. I wish the idiots hadn't freaked Lackey out of continuing that series... But Andre, bishy? Despite Diana thinking he's a "hormonal experience", isn't he something like 5' tall? I digress... besides the bracelet and earth thing, crosses didn't bother Andre either. He most definitely had trouble with sunlight, though. Regards, Jeanne -- "I have a vampire in my living room. It would be nice to know the vampire's name, and if he'd like anything to drink besides the usual." -- Diana Tregarde, Children of the Night |
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Gryphon
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27. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>Ironically, almost all modern versions dispense with the home soil >requirement entirely (and make sunlight the crippling disability, as >noted above). I guess toting a big pine box full of dirt around with >you everywhere wasn't "sexy." Heh. Remind me, if I ever actually do the story I've been toying with for years about the ordinary-shlub vampire, and I'll include it, along with the occasional joking reference, as daybreak approaches, to taking "the little dirt nap" (as opposed, you know, to the big one :). --G. (Joe Drake, Vampire Convenience Store Clerk) -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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twipper
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Aug-14-03, 02:24 PM (EDT) |
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28. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>--G. >(Joe Drake, Vampire Convenience Store Clerk) >-><- >Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Just beware the lurking of Bluntman and Chronic... Brian While Eris is competent, for real Chaos seek Arioch. Blood and Souls!! |
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McFortner
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30. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>--G. >(Joe Drake, Vampire Convenience Store Clerk) That got me thinking about the chances of seeing Detective Nick Knight and his partner Don Schanke as IPO Investigators. And LaCroix as a member of Big Fire sends shivers up and down my spine.
What do you think, Gryph? Michael
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zojojojo
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34. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>>What do you think, Gryph? > >It stinks! Thank you, Jay Sherman. -Z Rabid Crack Turtle 3.14159 --- Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion. |
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McFortner
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37. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>>What do you think, Gryph? > >It stinks! *sigh* Come up with what you think is a good idea.... :) Michael
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Michael C. Fortner RCW #2(n+1) I may not fly high with the eagles, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! |
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Anpwhotep
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32. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>Ironically, almost all modern versions dispense with the home soil >requirement entirely (and make sunlight the crippling disability, as >noted above). I guess toting a big pine box full of dirt around with >you everywhere wasn't "sexy." Saberhagen's solution to the problem was a small amount of the necessary soil carried in a rolled-up garment bag, that could then be unrolled onto a suitable surface and slept on. |
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Kendra Kirai
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33. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>Ironically, almost all modern versions dispense with the home soil >requirement entirely (and make sunlight the crippling disability, as >noted above). I guess toting a big pine box full of dirt around with >you everywhere wasn't "sexy." Something else that most modern versions remove is the fact that vampires had control over the weather, and certain animals (dogs and wolves mostly, if I'm recalling...but then, maybe those were things tacked on afterwards and then discarded again later...Then there's the ability to turn into bats...not something often seen of late...and formless mist.
Something Buffy got right and that I haven't seen much of otherwise, was the additional fact that a vampire cannot enter somebody's home unless invited. That's why many have minions (such as the aforementioned wolves) to drive people from their homes. Another ability of the vampire is it's complete immortality. There's no way to 100% completely, forever and ever and ever KILL a vampire...if there's a sizable quantity of the dust left over from burning, one drop of blood in the right place...
But then, I can't remember if these are later additions to the myth or not...but they've been associated with vampires for quite a while.
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Norgarth
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38. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>John "Lobster" Johnson - Another hero of The Shadow's era, >Johnson is another of the League members who is not a Returnist. As >he discovered early in his career as a crimefighter, Lobster Johnson >cannot die - at least, not permanently. The source of this ability is >unknown, even to Johnson; all he knows is that if he is killed, even >if his body is completely destroyed, he will return. Johnson >possesses no other superpowers, but is a master tactician and expert >hand-to-hand combatant. His trademark is a device built into his >glove which can burn the symbol of the Lobster's Claw on most >surfaces, including the foreheads of his victims. A loner like Kent >Allard, Johnson has joined the League for a few adventures but remains >primarily a free agent. > Ive never heard of this character, is he original? If not where did you borrow him from?>Bernard Quatermass - Chief of the British Rocket Group in the >mid-twentieth century, Quatermass was responsible for the prevention >of several alien invasions of Earth in the pre-Contact era. A >brilliant scientist and engineer as well as a man of action, >Quatermass serves as the League's liaison with the IPO's Technical >Division. No relation to Allan Quatermain, though apparently in >Valhalla people were forever mixing them up. > Was there a source for this one otehr than poking fun at the LXG movie's goof? 8) I'd suggest The Phantom/The Ghost who Walks for League membership, but there's been so many of them over the years that they'd pretty much be a league all by themselves. 8P ------------- Lead me not to temptation, for I can find it myself. Norgarth |
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Gryphon
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39. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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LAST EDITED ON 08-15-03 AT 11:48 PM (EDT) >>Lobster Johnson >> >Ive never heard of this character, is he original? If not where did >you borrow him from? Hellboy: Conqueror Worm (Mike Mignola, 2002). >>Bernard Quatermass >> >Was there a source for this one otehr than poking fun at the LXG >movie's goof? 8) The Quatermass Experiment (BBC, 1953; coincidentally, Conqueror Worm contains a huge Quatermass Experiment reference). --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor in Chief, Netadmin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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ed_becerra
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41. "RE: BPGD: Special Assignment 099"
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>I'd suggest The Phantom/The Ghost who Walks for League membership, but >there's been so many of them over the years that they'd pretty much be >a league all by themselves. 8P Y'know, that's a really scary AND silly thought.. every last one of the Phantoms marching en masse out of the afterlife and taking up crimefighting as a group. Gaaah! Four, five centuries worth of them... Odin alone knows how many would appear, and I'd assume they'd all be in their physical prime. I dunno if Gryph would ever USE it, but it really lends itself to one of those "We're identical twins/triplets/quads/quints, let's play 'trading places' headgames with the criminals and f**k with their minds." Edward A Becerra |
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