[ EPU Foyer ] [ Lab and Grill ] [ Bonus Theater!! ] [ Rhetorical Questions ] [ CSRANTronix ] [ GNDN ] [ Subterranean Vault ] [ Discussion Forum ] [ Gun of the Week ]

Eyrie Productions, Unlimited

Subject: "The evolution of Valkyries"     Previous Topic | Next Topic
Printer-friendly copy    
Conferences Source Material Topic #207
Reading Topic #207, reply 5
BLUE
Member since Oct-22-02
407 posts
May-26-17, 06:36 PM (EDT)
Click to EMail BLUE Click to send private message to BLUE Click to view user profileClick to add this user to your buddy list  
5. "RE: The evolution of Valkyries"
In response to message #3
 
   LAST EDITED ON May-26-17 AT 06:37 PM (EDT)
 
>The part of my brain that I can never quite keep from playing in other
>people's universes has speculated that the VF-25, VF-27, and so on,
>as/if they exist in UF, don't do so in the main arena of civilized
>space - they ended up descending from a batch of VF-2s that were along
>for the ride when the Prometheus misjumped itself out of history
>somewhere in the early Exile. It's not VF-25, it's VF-2-5, built
>by-and-for that lost WDF offshoot on Kharak.
>
>But, uh, obviously this is not in any way accurate.
>
>Anyway. As specialist or rival counterparts, both the Messiah
>and the Lucifer (I, too, haven't sat down to watch Delta yet) have
>real arguments for points where they're superior to the VF-1. The
>Messiah's companion Super and Full Armor FAST packs are head and
>shoulders above those available for the VF-1 in terms of firepower,
>durability, etc, and the Full Armor config in particular has a
>three-mode capability that the Valkyrie can't match. The downside
>there, of course, being that I'd be very surprised if you couldn't get
>two VF-1s with FAST packs for the price of a single Full Armor
>Messiah. The price of the base planes may be comparable, but I kind of
>suspect that their performance is, too, so much so that spare parts
>reserves etc are genuinely a deciding factor. The VF-25 being the
>better looking of the two just can't compete with that.
>

The VF-31 is prettier, better engineered...and yeah, has so much shiny new stuff crammed into it that it would have a similar price tag. It doesn't have a full Armor Pack like the 25 does, but its Super pack is very similar to that of the 25. The OTHER party trick it has is the aforementioned weapons pod, which is mission configurable. The EW specialist in Delta has a folding radome that can stow for launch or high speed maneuvering and then deploy upon arrival, and one episode they feature sound-and-light pods mounted similar to the ones used by Sound Force in Macross 7. While these replace the rifle the VF-31 carries, it also has twin arm-mounted Vulcan cannons, so it isn't completely disarmed. In addition, the weapons pod is deployable in all three modes.
So yeah, shinier, but probably very damn expensive

>The Lucifer, meanwhile, has a hell of a party trick
>(Fighter-carried Class Omega?!), and the better g-canceling tech in
>the UFverse wipes out its big canon weak point, the need for full
>conversion cyborg pilots. OTOH, given what we see from All Feature
>programs in the real world, the price tag of a single VF-27 is
>probably substantially more than a -25 with both armor sets,
>making them too rare to waste on missions that don't involve
>the need to pull a reflex cannon out of your ass.
>

The SV-262 is similar. It has a hella powerful cannon, and is manuverable as hell in fighter mode, has a full VR cockpit like the VF-19 (the canopy isn't even transparent, so lose power and goodbye, vision...) and is being flown by a race of almost-supermen (they are stronger, quicker reflexes, better senses, etc...but only live to their mid-30s, and still mature at the same relative rate as humans, so a teenagers is MIDDLE AGED) so it seems to be even stronger than it actually is, but its a completely new transformation, is much more mechanically complicated, the transformation limits the amount of fastpack equipment it can mount (primarily leg packs and deployable wing-tip drones), and overall is the VF-21 or 27 all over again. The quality of the pilots is the strongest element of the mech.

>The VF-171, meanwhile, as much as I love its visual design and miss
>the days when government forces were allowed to at least
>pretend to be worthwhile, is blatantly a Quickscell product,
>with all that implies.
>

The 171 is the first-generation-RGM-79 of the Macross universe.

-D-

"I don't tell you how to remove bullets. Don't you tell me how to make killing machines back into little girls." Captain Kaff Tagon of Tagon's Toughs, Schlock Mercenary


  Alert | IP Printer-friendly page | Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top

  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
 The evolution of Valkyries [View All] BLUE May-26-17 TOP
   RE: The evolution of Valkyries pjmoyermoderator May-26-17 1
      RE: The evolution of Valkyries BLUE May-26-17 2
          RE: The evolution of Valkyries pjmoyermoderator May-26-17 6
      RE: The evolution of Valkyries Nathan May-26-17 3
          RE: The evolution of Valkyries Gryphonadmin May-26-17 4
              RE: The evolution of Valkyries Nathan May-26-17 7
         RE: The evolution of Valkyries BLUE May-26-17 5
          RE: The evolution of Valkyries drakensis May-27-17 8
   RE: The evolution of Valkyries CdrMike May-27-17 9
      RE: The evolution of Valkyries Croaker Jun-01-17 10
          RE: The evolution of Valkyries Gryphonadmin Jun-01-17 11


Conferences | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic

[ YUM ] [ BIG ] [ ??!? ] [ RANT ] [ GNDN ] [ STORE ] [ FORUM ] GOTW ] [ VAULT ]

version 3.3 © 2001
Eyrie Productions, Unlimited
Benjamin D. Hutchins
E P U (Colour)