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Verbena
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Oct-22-06, 09:55 PM (EDT) |
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"Fulcrum of Fate II"
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That. Kicked. ASS. I haven't been riveted by a story in a while, but that absolutely rocked. Now, of course, I have to go play the KotOR games again, dangit. (I wonder if we'll ever see a Revan? Probably not, unless (s)he (probably a she, I'd think) is in the background, doing what (s)he was doing during KotOR 2, gone off to who-knows-where (with Bastila, presumably, but that wouldn't work here) preparing for a great threat from outside the galaxy. Y'know, that's some powerful deja vu, right there. "They say one should not speak unkindly of the dead, so I say, 'nice try'." --Lezard
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Apostate_Soul
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Oct-22-06, 10:17 PM (EDT) |
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1. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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Agreed. Plus, I think it's one of the very very few times (outside of the recent prequel trilogy) that we've ever felt sympathy for Vader. That final scene... wow. Gryphon, that absolutely rocked. (And it's nice to see Dooku as a good guy! I thought he had such potential. in the films.) ____________________ "It's difficult keeping up with the cross-continuity, but I think Cosmouse just gave The Saturnian Scraphunter his Ultimate Pacifier to use against Galactapuss..." |
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Gryphon
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Oct-22-06, 10:35 PM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-22-06 AT 10:36 PM (EDT) >(And it's nice to see Dooku as a good guy! I thought he had such >potential. in the films.)The odd thing about the canonical Count Dooku is that, going from only his on-screen appearances, one never actually gets much sense of what a tragic character his Sith Lord persona really is. Oh, it's obvious that Palpatine is just dicking him over in order to get to Anakin, but there's little sense of just how far he's fallen, or how good his intentions were. For that you have to go to outside sources (like his writeup in the Star Wars D20 RPG materials), which is a shame. Without that context he just comes off as... well, Christopher Lee's Dracula with a lightsaber. Count-ah DooOOooOooOoOooku, as it were. That said, he's in UF mostly because of my massive admiration for Christopher Lee - which I have in spite of the fact that I don't even really like most of the 100 zillion movies he's been in. I admire the hell out of the volume and breadth of his body of work, though, even if I'm not so fond of most of the individual bits. Now, if I can only manage to give his real-life best friend the screen time he deserves... --G. ["Ah, Wilhuff. Good to see you again, old friend."] -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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Offsides
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Oct-23-06, 11:49 AM (EDT) |
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8. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>>(And it's nice to see Dooku as a good guy! I thought he had such >>potential. in the films.) > >The odd thing about the canonical Count Dooku is that, going from only >his on-screen appearances, one never actually gets much sense of what >a tragic character his Sith Lord persona really is. Oh, it's obvious >that Palpatine is just dicking him over in order to get to Anakin, but >there's little sense of just how far he's fallen, or how good his >intentions were. For that you have to go to outside sources (like his >writeup in the Star Wars D20 RPG materials), which is a shame. >Without that context he just comes off as... well, Christopher Lee's >Dracula with a lightsaber. Count-ah DooOOooOooOoOooku, >as it were. > Well, when I saw his first name was Vladimir, I pretty much slapped my forehead and went "of course!"... I'm going to have to look up the background on Dooku - I never knew he was anything but a throwaway character (which makes 2 recent movie trilogies he got that done to...)>That said, he's in UF mostly because of my massive admiration for >Christopher Lee - which I have in spite of the fact that I don't even >really like most of the 100 zillion movies he's been in. I admire the >hell out of the volume and breadth of his body of work, though, even >if I'm not so fond of most of the individual bits. > I'm not a huge fan of his work either, but I agree that he's an amazing actor. Nice to see him getting a little screen time, even if I must say that I too have a bit of foreboding about him... Offsides [...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #π #include <stdsig.h> |
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Meagen
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Oct-23-06, 07:38 AM (EDT) |
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5. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>That. Kicked. ASS. >Yes. Yes, it did. Highlights: Obi-Wan adapting to modern society and helping the disconnected Padawan, news of Kei begins to stir a change in the tide, more cameos (I wonder if they're just background flavor or set-up for something bigger...?), KotOR material (Juhani, mistaken cargo and random speceport ambushes), first meeting of Rei and Vader. No fangirl-freakout moments this time, probably for the best. As a Nethack player, I find your respect for Surtur amusing. |
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kridengaged
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Oct-23-06, 10:43 AM (EDT) |
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6. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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Krid like. Good cookies. But, I get a picture of a Vadar brain in a jar, protected by the helmet which makes me think of Spaceballs when they are at Ludicrous Speed and he pulls the emergency stop; "Smoke if you got 'em." And while I am unabashedly a Utena (UF) fan and (plaintive cry) hope to hear more from the Symphony soon I have to admit that Len/Emmy/Vader/Obi-Wan/pretty much anything Jedi is cool. And I'm sure there is plot stuff too. But did I mention I like where this trilogy (assumption) is going? And where it's been. I always thought Vader got shafted when the stories were written; too many people wrote him as a 2D charecter. Disappointing. But, not so here at the UF Studio! Three Cheers! (hurrah. hurrah. hurrah.) And I just Love the 'Harry Potter' gang as Padawans. I giggled when Malfoy got Zapped; it was as satisfying the second time as the first. ...cookies? -KridEngaged |
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Gryphon
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Oct-23-06, 09:21 PM (EDT) |
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12. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>I suspect that this is going to run to five, maybe six chapters. I said in the announcement of the title that I thought it would be four, like Road Movie to Naboo, and it's still looking like that's probably the case. >we haven't yet had >the dialogue where Poirot is talking about taking on Granger as his >Padawan! Er, if that scene wasn't in Part I, something has gone terribly, terribly wrong. It's supposed to be immediately after Len and Zaerdra look in on Vert's "Advanced Topics in Force Duality" class. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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Apostate_Soul
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Oct-24-06, 07:44 AM (EDT) |
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18. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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*scurries to re-read*I'm a Moron. I can't believe I missed that. ____________________ "It's difficult keeping up with the cross-continuity, but I think Cosmouse just gave The Saturnian Scraphunter his Ultimate Pacifier to use against Galactapuss..." |
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Il Corra
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Oct-23-06, 11:45 AM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>That. Kicked. ASS. >So. True. O_o And that cliffhanger ending was just spot on. Of course we know how it will end for our favorite dark lord, but it still gave me the chills. It's funny, I kind of disliked his Kashew appearance in Blades, but now I can't wait to see him out of the regeneration tank :) Oh, and I just have to ask: why 10191? Google failed to illuminate me, is this some piece of KotOR lore or just something that will be explained later? -- Il Corra "sheepzapper recharge." |
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mdg1
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Oct-23-06, 01:56 PM (EDT) |
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9. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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Sounds like a date to me. October 1, 1991. *checks something* And that's approximately when UF #1 was first posted... Possibly a coincidence, tho. The earliest reference I can find is 11/14/91. Best/Mario |
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Gryphon
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Oct-23-06, 01:59 PM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-23-06 AT 02:00 PM (EDT) >Oh, and I just have to ask: why 10191? Google failed to illuminate me, >is this some piece of KotOR lore or just something that will be >explained later? In the UF universe, 10,191 Before Standard Calendar is generally accepted in Jedi lore as the year Duke Paul Atreides of Caladan founded the Fremen, direct predecessors of the Order of Jedi Knights. --G. "A beginning is a very delicate time... " -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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Angryoptimist
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Oct-24-06, 04:31 AM (EDT) |
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17. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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I really like the way Vader is written. Not sure how to put why I like it, though. Well, it's interesting, anyway. And the characterization of Rei Ayanami is interesting and fresh. Already, we're getting a pretty good glimpse at what probably makes her prime Sith material--not that it was terribly hard to guess where the anger she, I would assume, needs in order to do the whole Sith thing comes from, but having a more definite direction is very interesting; I certainly walked away feeling a more enlightened there. I used to not really like Len because I thought he was boring; that stop being true sometime during Road Movie to Naboo. It's never been more untrue than now--Len is damned interesting, all of a sudden. Now, I'm going not think about this at all until the next one comes out so I can do the whole "awating with patience" thing in spite of the evil cliffhanger. |
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trigger
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Oct-24-06, 06:20 PM (EDT) |
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22. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>I used to not really like Len because I thought he was boring; that >stop being true sometime during Road Movie to Naboo. It's never been >more untrue than now--Len is damned interesting, all of a sudden. Allow me to chime in here. I thought first Len was pulling a Neo, but then he was acting all spidermanish. Were the comments and the jumping about and such a conscious or unconscious reflection of Peter Parker's character? Anyway, M. Hutchins has proven to have more depths than I orginally thought. Cheers. Character development in a subtle way is to be applauded. yours, t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "If we are marked to die, we are enough To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater the share of honour God's will I pray thee wish not one man more" - Henry V, Act, IV Scene III |
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trigger
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Oct-24-06, 05:28 PM (EDT) |
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19. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-24-06 AT 06:07 PM (EDT) I Suspect like Empire Strikes Back that this will prove to be the fan favorite of the trilogy (it is a Trilogy, right?) for Fulcrum of the Force. I mean, at the end of it all our protagonists are all in danger or about to make life changing (universe changing?) choices. The IPO and Duelists all stirring, Vader on the edge of death, Rei the once and future padawan, Len v. Juhani, Obi-wan's next apprentice, Amidala & Dooku founding the Nabooian temple, and let us not forget the Golden Trio all about to be assigned to their masters (Ron to Yoda, Hermoine to Poirot, and Harry...perhaps to that other vergence in the force, Utena?). The foreshadowing is fun, esp. with Blades to show us hints of the way. You were a bit heavy handed with the Zaerdra references...I assume we're finally going to meet Slarti and his crew? I so want a Hutt-Sith lightsaber duel. Finally I noted the surreal normality around the old crowd...isn't there a galaxy being stitched back together? Why would any of the Hutchins be home at such a time? Or was Len having one of those Force blessed moments. The only WOR character I regret not seeing more here was Emmy. She got mondo attention in FFI, and I had hoped to see more of her development as a Jedi and a Kenobi in act II. The other general UF character I wanted someone to mention was Utena. She is quite possibly the One, and we can see the impact of her on the organization. But no one mentions her to Len, Obi-wan, or Emmy...why? My last question...did Obi-wan undergo some sort of Salusian process to turn into a Ewan McGregor clone? Not that I'm complaining... cheers, t. who is looking forward to episode three.edit: spelling...I'm useless without automatic checkers Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "If we are marked to die, we are enough To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater the share of honour God's will I pray thee wish not one man more" - Henry V, Act, IV Scene III |
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Gryphon
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Oct-24-06, 05:42 PM (EDT) |
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20. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>Finally I noted the surreal normality around the old crowd...isn't >there a galaxy being stiched back together? Why would any of the >Hutchins be home at such a time?The Chief rarely sleeps in his office any more. He's not allowed. >Utena. She is quite >possibly the One, and we can see the impact of her on the >organizaiton. But no one mentions her to Len, Obi-wan, or Emmu...why? Well, it didn't really come up, did it? I mean, it's not as if Obi-Wan looked around and said, "Gosh, what happened to this place? If I didn't know better, I'd say that about three years ago someone forced the Jedi Council to re-evaluate the process by which members of the order are trained for their roles in society." :) Anyway, Utena's not a member of the Jedi Order, so there is no particular reason why she'd have been around the Aldera Temple or a subject of everyday conversation there. Vert and Morpheus didn't exactly take out full-page ads in The New York Times announcing, "Hey, we found the One." >My last question...did Obi-wan undergo some sort of Salusian process >to turn into an Ewan McGregor clone? Not that I'm complaining... Something like that. Cosmetic biosculpting (of which the Salusian "humanization" process is the most widely known example) is a fairly well-established technology, especially on well-to-do, up-to-date worlds like Naboo. It's usually used for artistic/expressionistic purposes there (people fooling around with their hair color and whatnot), but making a Hyelian look human is well within the bounds of possibility. The only really tricky part is the extra fingers. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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trigger
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Oct-24-06, 06:16 PM (EDT) |
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21. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>Well, it didn't really come up, did it? I mean, it's not as if >Obi-Wan looked around and said, "Gosh, what happened to this >place? If I didn't know better, I'd say that about three years ago >someone forced the Jedi Council to re-evaluate the process by which >members of the order are trained for their roles in society." :) ..good point. I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that Emmy & Len had some knowledge of Jedi organization and affairs from their contacts with Yoda. Or perhaps the master is being tight-mouthed as usual? > Vert and Morpheus didn't >exactly take out full-page ads in The New York Times >announcing, "Hey, we found the One." Pity that. <grin> I also guess this means Harry isn't going to be her padawan. Please tell me you're not sticking him with yet another Albus Dumbledore disaster...it sounds like he's a trouble magnet. Ah well, something to look forward to seeing. ...and I noticed no comments on the Slarti angle - hush, hush, or waiting for Mr. Collier to comment? Btw, loved the Scudco movie... cheers, t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "If we are marked to die, we are enough To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater the share of honour God's will I pray thee wish not one man more" - Henry V, Act, IV Scene III |
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Saikosesu
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Oct-25-06, 03:32 PM (EDT) |
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23. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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This was certainly a fun ride, and in all areas a job well done. I have to admit it was quite gratifying to see an overconfident Sith Knight get taken out by a vibroblade. Then again, if anyone was to be up to that job Rei fit the bill perfectly, pre-Sith training or not. That said, there were a couple points I'm quite curious about, and would like a bit of clarification on. The first is on Kaitlyn, who I noticed didn't stutter at all during her air time in this story. This was also brought up over in "The Revolution Will be Televised" when Utena noticed it during their phone call, and, looking back, I suddenly realize that she hasn't since, but it didn't really click until now. Having noticed it now, however, I'd like to ask whether this was explained and I missed it, or whether that talk is slated for a future release. After all she -did- promise Utena that she'd explain it. The other question I have is about everyone's favorite dark lord, the one and only Darth Vader. The event in question actually happened in part one, but I was waiting to see if it would be explained in this episode. However, I didn't see much to help me with figuring it out. Namely, what the hell did Vader actually -do- to the shade of Quevas anyway? If it was intentionally ambiguous that's fine, but I kind of feel like I missed the bus on that one at the moment, so any clarification you might have on that point would be quite appreciated. Anyway, that's all I've got. To reiterate, completely awesome story and I'll be waiting patiently for the next section to arrive. |
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Gryphon
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Oct-25-06, 03:44 PM (EDT) |
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24. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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>The first is on Kaitlyn, who I noticed didn't stutter at all during >her air time in this story. This was also brought up over in "The >Revolution Will be Televised" when Utena noticed it during their phone >call, and, looking back, I suddenly realize that she hasn't since, but >it didn't really click until now. Having noticed it now, however, I'd >like to ask whether this was explained and I missed it, or whether >that talk is slated for a future release. After all she -did- promise >Utena that she'd explain it. No explanation has appeared on screen yet. I'll probably get into it at least a little whenever I manage to resume work on Symphony No. 5. For the most part, her friends suspect it has something to do with her increased intake of Vitamin J, as it were. >what the hell did Vader actually -do- to the shade of Quevas >anyway? Since that scene was mostly from Emmy's perspective, and she has no idea what he did, that'll have to stay deliberately ambiguous for now. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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Star Ranger4
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Oct-27-06, 03:00 AM (EDT) |
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27. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate II"
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What can I say? Actually, I think this sums it up best: When I got to the cliffhanger I had to physically restrain myself from grabing my monitor and shaking it while screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (as in, that cant be all there is for this chapter) Now that I've had a minute to step back from it, of course Vadar is going to be quite surprised that he wakes up at all, let alone in a regen tank.
I just wish I'd stayed away a bit longer, this is a chapter that goes down best when you can hop right into the next one and re assure yourself that Vader is fine. Hows that for involking emotional commitment to your charechters, G? Jumped the shark my ruddy bum.
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