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"BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Feb-12-13 AT 04:21 PM (EST)
 
[Uh, yeah, so you can probably guess what game I've been playing for the last week. AFAIK, there's only one thing in here that could even remotely be considered a spoiler, and it's for the opening cutscene, which I'm pretty sure was in the trailer. --G.

Fixed Shepard's birthdate (no access to canonical reference when this file was originally written). Also altered her choice of weapons to reflect her (by which I mean my) preference in Mass Effect 2, a rifle which was in a DLC I didn't have the first time around. --G. 20130212]

Babylon Project Galactic Database
Text Data Extraction Search: International Police Personnel Files
Personnel Data: SHEPARD, Virginia
SEARCH COMPLETE: JANUARY 5, 2410

Full name: Virginia Eve Shepard
Species: Human Detian (but see below)
Date of birth: April 11, 2154
Place of birth: Hospital Deck B, WDF Wayward Son (SDF-17), Rigel sector
Date of death: September 11, 2288
Place of death: WDF Normandy (SR-1), Centaurus sector
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 175 lbs.
Eyes: Blue-violet
Hair: Black
Adjusted Wolfe-DeKok Intelligence Index: 167

Date of Return: N/A (see below)
Date of IPO Induction: October 16, 2406
Division of service: Special Assignment 11 (The Chief's Furies), SPECTRE
Test of Light administered: October 16, 2406
Other special qualifications/certifications:
- B.S. Starship Systems Engineering, Summa cum laude in cursu honorum, Wedge Defense Force Academy, class of 2172
- WDF Certified Combat Engineer
- WDF Fixed Configuration Pilot
- WDF Veritech Pilot
- WDF Destroid Pilot
- WDF Starship Pilot
- WDF Veritech Combat Ace (VF-1 Valkyrie)
- WDF Jump Infantry Badge
- WDF Surface Combatant Grade N7
- WDF Powered Armor Combatant (Front-Line)
- WDF Powered Armor Technician
- WDF Special Aether Service ("The Hammers") Selection Passed With Distinction
- WDF Advanced Hand-to-Hand Combatant (with Cyborg and Powered Armor Stars)
- WDF Expert Marksman (with all bars)
- WDF Starship Command Certificate
- Royal Salusian Navy Elite Autonomous Battleforce Award
- RSN Combat Driver, Grade 1
- RSN Honorary SPARTAN
- Valkyrie BT-760 Black Talon Badge (with Blood Cross)

Other grades/titles:
- Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the Star of Salusia
- Companion of the Zetan Order of Knights Eternal
- Commander, WDF (dcd.)
- Captain, Asgardian Navy Einherjar Fleet (ret.)
- Valkyrie

Description: Virginia Shepard is a human female who appears to be around 30 Standard years of age. She has pale skin, black hair, and eyes that are a peculiar shade of blue-violet. Though athletic, her physical build gives little forewarning of the great feats of strength and endurance of which she is capable. She is somewhat heavier than she looks owing to the density of various invisible cybernetic and bionic augmentations (though she does not weigh nearly as much as a comparably sized full-body conversion cyborg).

Notes: Virginia Shepard was a second-generation Wedge Defense Force spacer, the daughter of two serving officers aboard the mid-22nd-century Wayward Son. Apart from a six-month spell on Zeta Cygni II in 2160 when the SDF-17 was in drydock for an overhaul, she grew up almost exclusively aboard the fortress. Her parents and tutors noticed very early on that she was a highly gifted child, both intellectually and physically. Growing up in the relaxed, benevolently anarchic environment of a WDF starship seemed to suit Virginia's temperament as well as her gifts, allowing her to proceed at her own pace - which, to the occasional consternation of her tutors, could conservatively be described as meteoric.

It appears that she never thought of doing anything other than joining the WDF in her own right; she joined the flagship's Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps at 12 and graduated from Rosalind Franklin High School (The Fightin' Crystallographers) on M Deck at 15 before taking the WDF Academy by storm, graduating in three years with a grade point average of 4.11 (the highest mathematically possible GPA at the time). Because of her spectacular performance in both coursework and practical exercises at the Academy, she was commissioned senior lieutenant, WDF, immediately upon graduation. She immediately went to work as a member of Commander Robert E. "ReRob" Mandeville's engine room crew aboard the SDF-17.

Though she was by training and inclination an engineer, Shepard's restless intellect and thirst for physical as well as mental challenges led her to spend most of her spare time in the Academy and the first few years of her career accumulating ratings, certifications, and specialty badges that were unrelated to her actual job. For example, in 2171 she earned a jump infantry badge, taking the JI training course for no better reason than that there happened to be an opening in one that coincided with the Academy's summer recess. While her officer-candidate classmates were hitting the crystal beaches of Borastan, she was on Acheron with the enlisted personnel of the Tactical Division, jumping out of dropships wearing a thruster pack built by the lowest bidder - and loving it.

In most forces, this might have been taken for an inability to focus by superiors who concentrated on the restlessness and missed the relentlessly high standards of Shepard's work - whatever she happened to be working on. Once again, though, the freewheeling structure of the WDF worked to her advantage, as her superiors actively encouraged this penchant for polymathy. Her competence and adaptability were already starting to get noticed at the WDF's highest levels (which in those days were not so very far above her own) when the incident that would define her WDF career came along.

In 2175, after serving almost nonstop for the first 18 months of the Covenant War, Shepard was on mandatory leave on the remote Salusian colony moon Elysium (reportedly planning to try out storm surfing on the moon's gas giant primary, Phlegethon) when the colony was attacked by Covenant forces in a surprise flanking move. Though under no obligation to do so - despite her JI badge she was, at the time, not classified as a front-line ground combatant - she pitched in with the Royal Salusian Colonial Defense Force's efforts to fight off the invaders. Toward the end of the engagement, she found herself holding a strategically vital strongpoint single-handed. When the smoke cleared, Lieutenant Shepard found herself with two knighthoods (one Salusian, one Zetan), a list of decorations for valor, an interesting facial scar, the right to claim the Omega-2 retroviral treatment at any time, the personal attention of the WDF's top brass, and an unofficial license to try just about any damn job the Force had in its table of organization.

Her response was to try out pretty much every job in the TO. If, as the recruiting posters of the time boasted, there were 333 ways to be a spacer in the WDF, Virginia Shepard seemed determined to master all of them. Over the next decade she turned her hand to everything from weapons testing to a one-year detachment to the Armored Corps before finding herself, almost inevitably, as one of the long succession of Veritech pilots to hold the job of Eight-Ball Ten.

It was this particular career move that nearly got her killed for the second time: In 2183 her Valkyrie was shot out from under her in combat against Zentraedi Revenge Coalition forces at the Third Battle of Reflex Point. Shepard ejected from her wrecked fighter just before its fusion reactor went supercritical and narrowly escaped being vaporized by the explosion, but her CVR-3 armor had been damaged earlier in the fight. As a result, she was both exposed to vacuum and fatally irradiated by the supercritical reactor's dying gamma pulse. By the time Eight-Ball flight surgeon Ronan O'Meara recovered her, she was still alive but fading fast. Back aboard the Prometheus, without time even to get her to sickbay, O'Meara administered her unclaimed Omega-2 treatment and saved her life.

Back on flight status within a week, Shepard spent another two years with the Eight-Balls before continuing what she jokingly called her "gypsy career" with a transfer to the WDF's Exploration Command. There she found a more-or-less permanent home, organizationally if not occupationally. For the rest of her WDF career, except for a few special temporary detachments to the Royal Salusian Navy for [CLASSIFIED - SEE AN ADMINISTRATOR] operations, Shepard moved from ship to ship within ExCom, tackling any job that happened to be open, doing whatever particularly needed doing aboard whichever ship she joined. She was an assistant engineer aboard WDF Axalon, a gunnery officer in Delphinus, served as executive officer aboard the original Enterprise, was a stellar cartographer at Faraway Rock Station, and led a surface survey team of Marines and science personnel stationed aboard Itinerant.

In 2280, as part of what the WDF brass envisioned as a gradual build-up to develop the WDF into a true fleet-level operation (something that was not actually accomplished until the War of Corporate Occupation a century later, and which we now know was one of the conditions that caused GENOM CEO Maximilien Largo to launch Operation Götterdämmerung), WDF Reconnaissance Command commissioned its newest starship, WDF Normandy (SR-1). Built by the renowned Salusian firm of Royal Saenar Fleet Systems, Ltd., Normandy was an attempt to build a fast, capable scoutship using a new implementation of the Internal Emission Sink passive stealth technology originally developed for the Royal Salusian Navy. Shepard was selected to command the experimental ship based on her engineering background and wide-ranging talent - and, as Captain MegaZone of the SDF-17 put it in his official report, because "it's about damn time she had a ship of her own."

Normandy was envisioned as the lead ship of a new class of WDF scouting vessel. If successful, and had the 23rd-century fleet buildup continued as planned, Normandy-class starships would have replaced the smaller, much less combat-capable Vigil-class scouts that then formed the bulk of WDF ReCom's small fleet. With a squad from the Special Aether Service (better known as the Hammers) aboard, Shepard and her elite crew put the ship through her paces more vigorously than the designers could possibly have anticipated, carrying out everything from long-range patrols of the Cardassian Triangle to commando raids on Kilrathi shipyards to, in her very first mission, taking point in a straight-up full-dress fleet action with the RSN against an attack on the Homeworld by [CLASSIFIED - SEE AN ADMINISTRATOR].

Unfortunately, the Normandy project and Virginia Shepard's brilliant WDF career both came to an end in 2288, when Normandy was destroyed in a suprise attack by a GENOM battle group in the opening stages of Operation Götterdämmerung. Dedicated to the end, Shepard oversaw the evacuation of almost all her crew and prevented the GENOM ships from destroying the lifeboats before they could escape to hyperspace; but she was unable to save herself when the Star Destroyer Avenger dealt Normandy a final, devastating broadside from her main turbolaser batteries.

Finding herself in Valhalla, Shepard demonstrated her adaptability once again by taking the Einherjar by storm in the same fashion that she'd owned her career as a Wedge Defender. Most of the details of her career as one of the Fallen of Valhalla are unavailable, but it is known that she commanded the Einherjar phantom of Normandy in the Battle of the Final Day, covering the phantom SDF-17's right flank in the great pincer movement that destroyed most of the Jotun fleet. There are reports that she also led a surface operation that stymied a dvergar attack on one of the Golden City's postern gates, though it seems unlikely that a single person could've done both things in the course of a single day's combat.

Regardless, Shepard so distinguished herself in the Ragnarok that Skuld Ravenhair, goddess of the future and captain of the Valkyrior, personally recruited her to replace one of the Valkyrie slain in the defense of Asgard. This was the first time that one of the Einherjar had been selected for such an honor, and in accepting it, Shepard was automatically struck from the Book (actually a database) of the Dead and elevated to minor celestial status. Though she seems - biologically, she is - human, she is technically one of the dísir, the lowest-ranked goddesses of Asgard.

Among other things, this brought with it the privilege of freedom to travel throughout the Nine Worlds; since Einherjar promoted to celestial status are no longer officially dead, they don't have to go through the process of Return to leave Valhalla. Shepard remained there anyway, serving as a Valkyrie, until news of the Earth Alliance's 2406 crackdown reached her. At that point she decided that the mortal world needed her, or possibly just that it was where the action was likely to be in the immediate future, and requested assignment to Midgard. Once across the Rainbow Bridge, she considered rejoining the WDF, but ultimately chose to offer her services [[Not in that way? -LD] [Unknown; my interest in these things goes only so far. -V-]] to her old friend the Chief of the International Police instead.

As mentioned above, Virginia Shepard is a highly capable spacer and ground soldier whose experience and training are among the broadest to be found anywhere. Though her Adjusted Wolfe-DeKok Intelligence Index falls just short of the Super-Genius threshold (175), she has a highly agile and retentive mind that she supplements with her great strength of will, putting what she has to more efficient use than many people with twice as much raw ability ever bother with. Her physical prowess is similar; though she possesses a number of WDF-era, Einherjar, and Valkyrie cybernetic and bionic modifications, including a dermal weave and bone reinforcement, most of her surprising strength, durability, and close combat ability comes from nothing more elaborate than hard work and good genes.

As an active-duty Valkyrie on detached assignment to Midgard, Shepard was obliged by Asgardian weapons export regulations to leave her standard-issue BT-760 Black Talon battle armor and the top shelf of her extensive personal arsenal in Valhalla. Most of the small arms she favors are of Midgardian manufacture - she's particularly fond of the "old" WDF's Morgan Arms M-96 Mattock marksman rifle - though she did smuggle out one gem from her Valhalla collection: an Asgard Armory Mk XCVIII Widow anti-materiel rifle. This is a devastatingly effective and startlingly massive weapon she calls simply "George".


Commander Shepard in typical battle dress - note George behind left shoulder. She dislikes helmets, claiming that they interfere with her peripheral vision.

Most military psychologists' guidelines would tell you that Virginia Shepard should be out of her mind with everything she's been through in her lives. Lots of old-time WDF officers lived through things like the Covenant War and Götterdämmerung, of course, but few living today can say honestly that they didn't live through the latter and are still kicking. At the very least, most people would find their personalities changed (and probably not for the better) by any one of the major experiences that signpost a timeline of Shepard's life; but somehow she manages never to let it go to her head. Those few still alive who knew her as a fresh-faced young Academy cadet testify that she's the same lovably snarky, compassionate-but-tough, cool-headed but occasionally hot-tempered firebrand she was back then. She's not sure herself how she's managed that, and she doesn't really care. She's apparently one of those people (compare SA1 operative Briareos Hecatonchires) who are just mentally unbreakable.

Along with this, or perhaps as another facet of it, Shepard is extraordinarily strong-willed. Before her Lensing, she repeatedly demonstrated a near-invulnerability to psychological and emotional manipulation, whether it be by technological or supernatural means. She can be unbelievably stubborn, with a single-minded ability to ignore pain, fatigue, filth - whatever unpleasantness has to be ignored to get the job done. She doesn't believe in no-win scenarios even when she's in one. It took the complete annihilation of her starship around her by the guns of an Imperator-class Star Destroyer to kill her, and even then she took an Interdictor and one of the Avenger's Victory-class escorts with her. Many who know her look on that as an oddly apt cosmic metaphor.

The thing that surprises people first meeting Shepard, when her reputation has preceded her, is her wit. They tend to expect her to be a grim, humorless and purposeful figure, the kind of silent, square-jawed military cipher who features in countless fictional accounts of exploits comparable to the ones she's really lived, and then they're shocked to meet instead a warm and cheerful (apparently-)young woman with a quirky smile, a fondness for the musical works of Luigi Boccherini, Stan Rogers, and Paul Oakenfold, and a singular gift for the dry one-liner. She has been known to style herself Commander Sir Virginia E. Shepard CKE KCSS, WDF (deceased) just to mess with people. Her generosity and compassion are as legendary among those who know her as her skill and courage are among those who only think they do, as is her loyalty to her friends and her willingness to go to great lengths to help them.

On the other hand, she has very little patience for certain types of people. She's willing to give almost anyone a chance, but those who throw that chance away don't have very good odds of ever getting another one. The legend still circulates in Asgard that she first came to Skuld's notice by suddenly, ruthlessly, and completely clobbering a drunken ulfhednar berserker in a Golden City pub the day after the Ragnarok when he wouldn't stop pawing at the vaettir barmaid. Witty, compassionate music lover or not, this woman is a battle-hardened professional soldier with fists like wrecking balls, and if you push her too far she will crush you like a bug.

Current assignment: Commander Shepard is a member of Special Assignment 11 and the IPO "superbranch" codenamed SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-Terror Response and Enforcement). She conducts operations at the personal direction of - and sometimes alongside - the Chief of the International Police.

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  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Verbena Feb-02-10 1
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Feb-02-10 2
         RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Verbena Feb-02-10 3
             RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Arashi Mar-13-10 54
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia dbrandon Feb-02-10 4
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Feb-02-10 6
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Eric Heckathorn Feb-02-10 5
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia BeardedFerret Feb-02-10 7
  Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Gryphonadmin Feb-02-10 8
     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... BeardedFerret Feb-03-10 13
     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Verbena Feb-03-10 14
     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... simonz Feb-03-10 15
     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... The Traitor Feb-03-10 16
     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Apostate_Soul Feb-03-10 17
         RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Gryphonadmin Feb-03-10 18
             RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Apostate_Soul Feb-03-10 19
                 RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Gryphonadmin Feb-03-10 20
                     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Apostate_Soul Feb-03-10 21
                     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Offsides Feb-03-10 22
                         RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Gryphonadmin Feb-03-10 23
                     RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Zox Feb-10-10 29
                         RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Gryphonadmin Feb-10-10 31
             RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention... Verbena Feb-03-10 27
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Bad Moon Feb-02-10 9
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Feb-02-10 10
         RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia StClair Feb-02-10 11
             RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Feb-02-10 12
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Nathan Feb-03-10 24
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Senji Feb-03-10 26
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Rickdominated Feb-03-10 25
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia MoonEyes Feb-10-10 28
  Minor explications and addenda Gryphonadmin Feb-10-10 30
     RE: Minor explications and addenda Bad Moon Feb-10-10 32
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  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia BeardedFerret Mar-12-10 51
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Mar-12-10 52
         RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia BeardedFerret Mar-12-10 53
  Abject silliness Gryphonadmin Mar-14-10 55
     RE: Abject silliness Apostate_Soul Mar-14-10 56
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             RE: Abject silliness Gryphonadmin Mar-15-10 58
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         RE: Abject silliness Bushido Apr-13-10 75
  RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia BeardedFerret Mar-15-10 60
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Mar-15-10 61
         RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia FubarObfusco Mar-16-10 68
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia CdrMike Mar-15-10 62
         RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia BeardedFerret Mar-15-10 63
             RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia A Vile Gangster Mar-15-10 64
                 RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Apostate_Soul Mar-17-10 69
     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia SliderDaFeral Mar-15-10 65
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             RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Mar-15-10 67
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     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia pjmoyermoderator Mar-18-10 71
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     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Feb-12-13 77
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     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia Gryphonadmin Feb-23-13 83
         RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia jhosmer1 Feb-25-13 84
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                     RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia The Traitor Feb-26-13 88
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1. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Ah, excellent! I've been playing the very same game, and aside from the different hairstyle I suspect my version of Shepard is very similar--a Soldier, mostly Paragon, etc. I believe I even have the same sniper rifle...that -is- the Widow, right? The one you can pick instead of the assault rifle or shotgun at a certain point in a certain dungeon? =)

In any case, awesome seeing an adaptation of Mass Effect 2 here.


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2. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >I believe I even have the
>same sniper rifle...that -is- the Widow, right?

Indeed it is. I love that freakin' gun. Couple it with Adrenaline Rush and it makes me feel like freakin' Golgo 13 with one of those anti-tank rifles from RoboCop.

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3. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   OH yeah. Nothing like drilling through a Collector Scion in, like, -three shots-. (Or something like that, I don't recall.) Plain ridiculous damage.


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54. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >OH yeah. Nothing like drilling through a Collector Scion in, like,
>-three shots-. (Or something like that, I don't recall.) Plain
>ridiculous damage.
>
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>"They say one should not speak unkindly of the dead, so I say, 'nice
>try'." --Lezard

Sena Shepard (my Infiltrator) could drop a Scion in two shots. Cloaked shot is very giggle-worthy. There were numerous spots I did it just to get the giggle.

*Sees Blue Sun merc, no Shield or Armor.* ... *evil grin*

"Boom! Headshot!"

Timed right, I could take out Harbinger before his Barrier finished building.

There was also something deeply satisfying about running a team with Garrus and Thane and all of us using sniper rifles.

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4. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   I'm vaguely amused that whoever is reading this extract is cleared to know about Valhalla, but isn't cleared to know what the heck the RSN was up to 130 years ago.


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6. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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>I'm vaguely amused that whoever is reading this extract is cleared to
>know about Valhalla, but isn't cleared to know what the heck the RSN
>was up to 130 years ago.

Heh, I was hoping someone would notice that. The reason's actually very simple when you think about it: Valhalla's security classification is maintained (in Midgard, for purposes of inclusion in the BPGD, anyway) by the IPO, whereas whatever's redacted there is classified by the Salusian government. They've got stuff in their files that even James Burke isn't aware of.*

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5. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >They tend to expect her to
>be a grim, humorless and purposeful figure, the kind of silent,
>square-jawed military cipher who features in countless fictional
>accounts of exploits comparable to the ones she's really lived

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7. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Awesome.

I was wondering what role Shepard would have in UF. This is considerably better than I was thinking.


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8. "Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   I will give five completely illusory bonus points to the first person who works out what Commander Shepard's closest associates very occasionally call her - when they aren't calling her by only her last name at weirdly inappropriate conversational times - and why. :)

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13. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   Leopard. Why? Because why not?


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14. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   Just randomly throwing it out there, total speculation:

Called Spectre, because that was her callsign during a stint on Solaris. =P

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15. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   Random shot, but I'm gonna go with Hugo because of her sniper rifle. (as in: I will name him George, and I will hug him and pet him and squeeze him...)

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16. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   Might be 'Heavy', due to a gender reversal of the whole 'WHO TOUCHED SASHA?!?!" thing. Although that could be taken -completely- the wrong way and end in defenestration.

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17. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   I'm going to dance a long and complex route all around the houses to state that I believe said nickname is "Ginny".


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18. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-10 AT 01:06 PM (EST)
 
>I'm going to dance a long and complex route all around the houses to
>state that I believe said nickname is "Ginny".

Those are all good guesses - in particular, I kind of wish I'd thought of the "Spectre" one, and that is why she calls the rifle George - but no. Although people do often call her "Gin", that's just for short, not the mark of one of her true intimates. Those people, what few of them there are, and very rarely when they do, can get away with calling her "Gus".

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19. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   *examines*

*Thinks*

Other than it being short for Augustus, I still can't see a connection.

Would you care to unriddle that one for us, Gryphon?


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20. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   >*examines*
>
>*Thinks*
>
>Other than it being short for Augustus, I still can't see a
>connection.
>
>Would you care to unriddle that one for us, Gryphon?

"Virginia" was as close as her parents could get to "Virgil" when it turned out they were having a girl.

--G.
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21. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   In the immortal words of R. Dorothy Wainwright...

"Ah. Epiphany."


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22. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   >"Virginia" was as close as her parents could get to "Virgil" when it
>turned out they were having a girl.
>
>--G.
>["An astronaut named Gus?!"]
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Just for the record, when I first saw the article my honest-to-god first thought was "any relation to Alan Shepard?" Completely irrelevant to the reality at hand, yet strangely apropos... :)

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23. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   >Just for the record, when I first saw the article my honest-to-god
>first thought was "any relation to Alan Shepard?" Completely
>irrelevant to the reality at hand, yet strangely apropos... :)

Yeah, it's fairly apparent from various bits of the in-game lore (like the fact that there's a Historical Figure in the Mass Effect universe named Jon Grissom) that the game designers had the early astronauts in mind.

I suppose it is statistically conceivable that the game's Commander Shepard and/or UF's Virginia Shepard are descended from Al Shepard, but if so, not on a direct line - the real Shepard and his wife had only daughters, so his present-day descendents, much less any notional 22nd-century ones, aren't named "Shepard".

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29. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   >"Virginia" was as close as her parents could get to "Virgil" when it
>turned out they were having a girl.

Well, there was a woman named Virgilia in the early Lensman books. But I doubt the people who make baby-naming lists consult Doc Smith on a regular basis. :)

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31. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   >Well, there was a woman named Virgilia in the early Lensman
>books. But I doubt the people who make baby-naming lists consult Doc
>Smith on a regular basis. :)

Probably not, no, even in the Golden Age WDF. Except perhaps in a "don't go this route" sort of way.

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27. "RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention..."
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   >>I'm going to dance a long and complex route all around the houses to
>>state that I believe said nickname is "Ginny".
>
>Those are all good guesses - in particular, I kind of wish I'd
>thought of the "Spectre" one, and that is why she calls the

*shrug* You still can, if you want. I'm not one to stand on trademark ceremony, and I thought that that bit of ME and Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries serendipity worked out rather well. =P


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9. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   I like how Shepard's database file image looks like it was taken right after she found out the mess was serving beefaroni for the fourth night in a row.

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10. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >I like how Shepard's database file image looks like it was taken right
>after she found out the mess was serving beefaroni for the fourth
>night in a row.

At the point in the game where that was taken, she's smirking at one of her shipmates because she's just blown his tiny mind. :)

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11. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   I was thinking she looked rather like Coraline there.


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12. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >I was thinking she looked rather like Coraline there.

Huh, she does a bit. It's a complete coincidence, too. She's an import from the original game, so her face was designed several years before I ever saw Coraline, and I didn't edit it at all when I brought her over.

I wouldn't have even if the "edit imported face" interface wasn't annoyingly broken (if you go to it, the character's face reverts to the default), because as I recall, I put in quite a bit of work on Virginia's original design. What I was trying to do with her face - and I think I succeeded - was to make her sort of quirkily pretty, rather than generic space-hero glamorous, by deliberately introducing a few little flaws. Her mouth is a little too wide, she's got a tad bit of an overbite, and you can't see the kink in it from that angle, but she has the full Ramses II nose. (I happen to like all those things, but one has to admit they are deviations from the ISO standard.)

I think touches like that make her - God help me, I'm saying this about a character in a computer roleplaying game - seem a bit more human. (And also more distinctive to describe in prose, should the need arise. She's not fashion-model perfect, but she's the sort of woman who could make G walk into a closed patio door. :)

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24. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   *reads title*

"You DIDN'T."

*opens thread*

"You did. ^_^"

I was giggling the whole way through. Well done!


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26. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >*reads title*
>
>"You DIDN'T."
>
>*opens thread*
>
>"You did. ^_^"

G never ceases to amaze me how often I have the "You DIDN'T." ... "You did. ^_^" reaction to his writings...

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25. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >
I am astounded by how much Virgina here looks like my Shepard. Paint her hair red and they could be twins. And you apparently play the same way I do. Freaky.

"They killed you once, but it only pissed you off..." seems appropriate here.


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28. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Heh. Ok, the X-98e Widow sniper rifle. AKA 'George'. Just cause of that, I have to name MY rifle something suitable.

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30. "Minor explications and addenda"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-10-10 AT 06:50 PM (EST)
 
I should perhaps note that the Cyborg and Powered Armor stars associated with the WDF's Advanced Hand-to-Hand Combatant certification do not mean that the holder is certified to fight as a cyborg or while wearing powered armor; as can be seen earlier in Shepard's list of quals, there's a separate badge for Powered Armor Combatant (and another one for cyborg, but she doesn't have that because, while she does have cyberware, she doesn't have prosthetic limbs or sensory organs). What those stars mean is that she's been specially trained to fight cyborgs and people in powered armor.

Also, Certified Combat Engineers in the WDF are basically trained as demolitionists, EOD techs and security hackers. They're distinct from the engineers who make ships work; their job is basically to remove obstacles.

And finally, the Blood Cross distinction on the Valkyrie Black Talon badge stems from one of those violent little traditions that outsiders to their corps usually find slightly disturbing about the Valkyrior. The only way to earn it is to draw blood from your instructor during your "final exam" in the Valkyrie equivalent of Selection - which is no easy task when your instructor is Brynhildr Silverspear.

(If you're curious, Shepard did it with a headbutt. They still talk about it in the Golden Hall. :)

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32. "RE: Minor explications and addenda"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-10-10 AT 07:35 PM (EST)
 
>(If you're curious, Shepard did it with a headbutt. They still talk
>about it in the Golden Hall. :)

Ha, your Shepard speaks Krogan too. For those who haven't played Mass Effect or its sequel, among the Krogan a headbutt isn't an attack, its a punctuation mark :D

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33. "RE: Minor explications and addenda"
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   >Ha, your Shepard speaks Krogan too.

Yeah, she did her xenostudies summer term sophomore year on Tuchanka. If nothing else, it wasn't as hot as her freshman year exchange month on Palaven. I mean, look at that skin, you know she doesn't tan, just burns. :)

>among the Krogan a headbutt isn't an attack, its
>a punctuation mark :D

Exogrammarians differ on this point; many believe it's an interjection.

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34. "RE: Minor explications and addenda"
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   To quote Joker: "We are at optimum Headbutting Capacity I'd say."
Even when I'm running a straight paragon that's one of the two renegade triggers I always mash. Especially hilarious without wearing a helmet.


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46. "RE: Minor explications and addenda"
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   >To quote Joker: "We are at optimum Headbutting Capacity I'd say."
>Even when I'm running a straight paragon that's one of the two
>renegade triggers I always mash. Especially hilarious without wearing
>a helmet.

I have to ask...which scene is this, exactly? Just to see this, which I think sounds eminently interesting.

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47. "RE: Minor explications and addenda"
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   Eventually, Grunt asks you to go to Turchanka with him to get a handle on his Chronic Headbutting of Windows.
On Turchanka, provided you kept Wrex alive in the first game, talk to Wrex and then immediately re-board the Normandy and talk to Joker. He'll mention that he's not really all that broken up over Wrex not returning, saying that there's enough Headbutting going around.
The Renegade Trigger when the Shamen goes and explains the Rite to you and Uvenk/Worf will keep butting in. Mash the Trigger and you get to butt right back, so to speak.


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35. "RE: Minor explications and addenda"
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I think that the Krogan may be the only race- excepting, possibly, the Hoffmannites and the Klingons- where Debating is considered an extreme sport.

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36. "RE: Minor explications and addenda"
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   >
>I think that the Krogan may be the only race- excepting, possibly, the
>Hoffmannites and the Klingons- where Debating is considered an extreme
>sport.

"And in today's interstellar sports report, the debate between Godot Academy and Kredak Memorial was won by Godot Academy, two concussions delivered to one recieved."
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37. "Mordin"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-16-10 AT 03:12 PM (EST)
 
Interesting thing, in relation to the game, if not the (very nice) BPGD-entry?
Most salarians, we find out, don't live much past 40. The esteemed Mordin Solus? Is 50 years old(the official Bioware page says so). That would make him the equivialent of 100 years, in relation to (US) humans, Anno 2010. And unless Salarians do all their aging in a hurry at the end...well, he doesn't seem decripit, even though we can easily tell he is OLD, from how he looks. Which, potentially, means that he will go from (very) rare to more or less unique in the next game. If he is IN it, of course.
Question then becomes, is this high age a fluke? A result of clean living, as it were? Or did the doctor find some way to extend his own lifespan?

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38. "RE: Mordin"
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   >unless Salarians do all their aging in a hurry
>at the end...well, he doesn't seem decripit, even though we can easily
>tell he is OLD, from how he looks.
>
>Question then becomes, is this high age a fluke? A result of clean
>living, as it were? Or did the doctor find some way to extend his own
>lifespan?

Well, if you look closely, he appears to have cybernetic arms and legs. Who knows how much of the rest of him is aftermarket too, if that's the case? Besides, we know he's a brilliant geneticist, and I would hardly put it past him to have used himself as a test subject in some life-extension/advanced-healing research he may have done for the STG.

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39. "RE: Mordin"
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   >"Omega-2 inefficient. Halts all aspects of aging,
>including purely cosmetic dermal changes. Typical of human
>vanity."

Oh, you tease.


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40. "RE: Mordin"
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   >>"Omega-2 inefficient. Halts all aspects of aging,
>>including purely cosmetic dermal changes. Typical of human
>>vanity."

>
>Oh, you tease.

Just gettin' my eye in. Mordin's dialogue requires a certain... frame of mind. :)

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41. "RE: Mordin"
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   From what I've seen and heard of Mordin (and I can honestly say that I would be VERY careful about having someone with that name, on first hearing, on my ship!) I keep thinking of him as voiced by Kenneth Williams.

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42. "RE: Mordin"
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   >From what I've seen and heard of Mordin (and I can honestly say that I
>would be VERY careful about having someone with that name, on first
>hearing, on my ship!)

Oh, he's harmless. Well, actually, harmless isn't the word I want, is it? No, he's... hang on... incredibly dangerous. But in a nice way.

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43. "RE: Mordin"
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   >
>Oh, he's harmless. Well, actually, harmless isn't the word I want, is
>it? No, he's... hang on... incredibly dangerous. But in a
>nice way.
>

When I hear a description like that, I always imagine something like, "Of course, I'll need to destroy your home planet to do it. Do you take coffee or tea?"

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44. "RE: Mordin"
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   >>
>>Oh, he's harmless. Well, actually, harmless isn't the word I want, is
>>it? No, he's... hang on... incredibly dangerous. But in a
>>nice way.
>>
>
>When I hear a description like that, I always imagine something like,
>"Of course, I'll need to destroy your home planet to do it. Do you
>take coffee or tea?"

"About to test new bioweapon. Not on us, of course. Didn't think I had to specify, but Joker got nervous."

Mordin does have his redeeming qualities. Even for his Mostly Harmless demeanor, ethical flexibility, and wicked sense of humor, there are lines even he won't cross.

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45. "RE: Mordin"
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   >Mordin does have his redeeming qualities. Even for his Mostly Harmless
>demeanor, ethical flexibility, and wicked sense of humor, there are
>lines even he won't cross.

And he's a great source of cheerful, completely nonjudgmental medical advice if you're thinking of crossing the Wallace line.

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48. "RE: Mordin"
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   I would like to say that's an excellent euphemism.

And that the various permutations on his medical advice in such situations had me all but falling out of my chair laughing.

His recount of his unfortunately considerable experience with interspecies flirting is also a riot.


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49. "RE: Mordin"
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   >I would like to say that's an excellent euphemism.

Thank you! I think I coined it.

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50. "RE: Mordin"
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   >Oh, he's harmless. Well, actually, harmless isn't the word I want, is
>it? No, he's... hang on... incredibly dangerous. But in a
>nice way.

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51. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-12-10 AT 09:27 PM (EST)
 
>Dedicated
>to the end, Shepard oversaw the evacuation of almost all her crew and
>prevented the GENOM ships from destroying the lifeboats before they
>could escape to hyperspace; but she was unable to save herself when
>the Star Destroyer Avenger dealt Normandy a final,
>devastating broadside from her main turbolaser batteries.

Oooooooh.


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52. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-12-10 AT 09:28 PM (EST)
 
>>Dedicated
>>to the end, Shepard oversaw the evacuation of almost all her crew and
>>prevented the GENOM ships from destroying the lifeboats before they
>>could escape to hyperspace; but she was unable to save herself when
>>the Star Destroyer Avenger dealt Normandy a final,
>>devastating broadside from her main turbolaser batteries.
>
>Oooooooh.

I wondered how long it would take someone to notice that. (And no, it wasn't what I just edited the file for. I was just fixing a couple of dates. :)

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53. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Yeah, I was just kind of wondering what did get changed when the name caught my eye. That mini story's looking more and more interesting.


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55. "Abject silliness"
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   One of the many things I enjoy about the presentation of Borderlands is the little "title cards" that pop dramatically onto the screen when various important NPCs make their first appearances. This one's my favorite, I think:

Last night I was fooling around with a graphic for something else and went off on a sudden jag of complete silliness. I ended up throwing together a couple of Borderlands-style title cards for UF characters. They don't really work, because the base images are in completely the wrong art style, and yet they amuse me a bit.

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56. "RE: Abject silliness"
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   Gin Shephard looks somewhat stunned and nonplussed. Not so much unimpressed... more like she's just heard or seen somethaing that she almost can't parse.

"...piercings? Tali, what brought this on?"

"...Garrus, I know what painted markings on the face mean for your people, but lipstick and mascara are something else entirely."

I'm sure that there's a host of other things that could come out of it, but some of them you don't want to imagine.

As for 343- well, I'm pretty certain that he's more the ultimate search engine!

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57. "RE: Abject silliness"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-15-10 AT 03:26 AM (EDT)
 
>Gin Shephard looks somewhat stunned and nonplussed. Not so much
>unimpressed... more like she's just heard or seen somethaing that she
>almost can't parse.
>
>"...piercings? Tali, what brought this on?"
>
>"...Garrus, I know what painted markings on the face mean for your
>people, but lipstick and mascara are something else entirely."
>
>I'm sure that there's a host of other things that could come out of
>it, but some of them you don't want to imagine.

Ranks right up there with Admiral Vaal'Koris vas Qwib-Qwib's choices for alternate ships to carry his flag, like the Defhrenz or the Iktomi.

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58. "RE: Abject silliness"
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   >Ranks right up there with Admiral Vaal'Koris's choices for alternate
>ships to carry his flag, like the Defhrenz or the Iktomi.

If it had been in any way possible, Admiral Koris would have found himself transferring his flag to the good ship Fist City. I'm just sayin'. You don't talk to the Normandy's chief engineer that way, bitch. Killed better men for less, etc.

I wonder if it would've caused a mistrial. I mean, counsel for the defense gutpunches* the prosecutor for insulting the defendant, that's got to violate some kind of protocol, even under the rather loose guidelines of quarian jurisprudence.

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59. "RE: Abject silliness"
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   >>Ranks right up there with Admiral Vaal'Koris's choices for alternate
>>ships to carry his flag, like the Defhrenz or the Iktomi.
>
>If it had been in any way possible, Admiral Koris would have found
>himself transferring his flag to the good ship Fist City.

Damn shame I have to be in bed soon. Otherwise, I'd play through Tali's loyalty mission again with Mordin as my third just to see if he suggests Koris transfer to the Cloaca.

>I'm just sayin'. You don't talk to the Normandy's chief
>engineer that way, bitch. Killed better men for less, etc.

I've got a certain krogan and shaven-headed female I want you to meet, Admiral...

>I wonder if it would've caused a mistrial. I mean, counsel for the
>defense gutpunches* the prosecutor for insulting the defendant, that's
>got to violate some kind of protocol, even under the rather loose
>guidelines of quarian jurisprudence.
>
>--G.
>*sadly, the headbutt is impractical in this case

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75. "RE: Abject silliness"
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   Speaking of Tali and Garrus, this has to be one of my favorite conversations in the entire game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a54Vm1ww8w
well, that one and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sII1u5lXCxQ

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60. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Shepard-related: It's a new car!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu76ofHYX1w


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61. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >Shepard-related: It's a new car!

I didn't watch most of it, because I'd really rather not know before I get there (and thanks for the warning, by the way), but I'd just like to say,

"Mustafar. I can't believe I'm back on Mustafar."

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68. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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>"Mustafar. I can't believe I'm back on Mustafar."

I want this story.

Though we know Garibaldi isn't Exile-era.

(It would be amusing, though, if right-wing radio host Jerry Doyle were.)


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62. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >Shepard-related: It's a new car!
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu76ofHYX1w

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"I got it, we'll make it a hover tank instead! And we'll make it talk!"
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63. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   "Hello! And welcome to the M-44 Hovertank. You may call me Sheila."


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64. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   !!!!

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69. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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*snerk*

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65. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >Shepard-related: It's a new car!
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu76ofHYX1w

Tali: "Wow... this IS roomy!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCzCXyQ-bv0

Can you name the truck with four-wheel drive,
Smells like a steak and seats thirty-five?

CANYONEROOOOO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eevoJkX4p90&NR=1

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66. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Fricken vehicles... Well, to say something GOOD about the issue, driving in ME is better than flying aircraft in Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam.


>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCzCXyQ-bv0
>
>Can you name the truck with four-wheel drive,
>Smells like a steak and seats thirty-five?
>
>CANYONEROOOOO...

YEAHHH!! I wonder if the Canyonero was built upon a UNIMOG chassis, like an offroad U 5000 series.

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67. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Okay, I haven't wanted to be all board nazi about it, but you guys are getting pretty far off the beam now. I'd prune this subthread off into its own spot over in private-mail for you, but, uh, DCF can't do that. :)

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70. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Off-topic: every time Gotterdammerung comes up on these boards, what I see most closely resembles bursts of line noise in the middle of the text. I know what it is -- the special characters aren't being recognized by my browser, Firefox 3.6 -- but I'm clueless enough that I don't know how to fix it. Anyone?

On-topic:

> For example, in 2171 she earned a jump infantry badge,

This part here, for some reason, superimposes Virginia Shepard onto the spacejump scene from the new Star Trek.

Except I imagine she wouldn't need Sulu to save her from a couple lousy Romulans. :D


> a fondness for the musical works of Luigi Boccherini,
> Stan Rogers, and Paul Oakenfold, and a singular gift
> for the dry one-liner.

My type of gal.


Anyway, the first thing that came to mind (quotes above notwithstanding) was the comment about her being second-gen WDF. It got me to wondering just who her parents were and what her childhood was like. Actually, it makes me wonder what childhood in general aboard the Wayward Son in the pre-Exile era would have been like.

I've always had a mental image of the WDF, and it was a cool image -- lots of anime-style spandex-and-leather-jacket uniforms, trenchcoats, an environment that looks like a cross between a college dorm and the troopship from Aliens, that sort of thing. It never had kids in it. But given the history, kids on board had to have been commonplace.

I'm drifting a bit here, but for some reason that phrase really leaped out at me. Is it something you've considered, or am I leaning too far into Examining Too Closely territory?

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71. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >Actually, it makes me wonder what childhood in general
>aboard the Wayward Son in the pre-Exile era would have been like.

Submitted for your consideration:

The Sterling Sisters.

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72. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >Off-topic: every time Gotterdammerung comes up on these boards, what I
>see most closely resembles bursts of line noise in the middle of the
>text. I know what it is -- the special characters aren't being
>recognized by my browser, Firefox 3.6 -- but I'm clueless enough that
>I don't know how to fix it. Anyone?

It's a text encoding thing. Go into View->Character Encoding->Auto-Detect and see if it's set to Universal. If not, try that. If so, hmm, I dunno. That works for me with the same browser and version.

We're in the early stages of trying to transition the site default from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8, which will probably cause more such confusion in the short term and (hopefully) eliminate it in the long.

>> For example, in 2171 she earned a jump infantry badge,
>
>This part here, for some reason, superimposes Virginia Shepard onto
>the spacejump scene from the new Star Trek.
>
>Except I imagine she wouldn't need Sulu to save her from a couple
>lousy Romulans. :D

Heh, not quite; "jump infantry" is a term from the old Battletech game setting, and refers to infantry who wear jetpacks. In practice, they use them not for sustained flight, but in short hops, giving them the tactical ability to "jump" around the battlefield. Orbital drop is its own thing (and Gin's rated for that too, but she took it up as a recreational activity, not part of her relentless accumulation of MOS badges).

You're right about the Romulans, though. Although to be fair to Sulu, it was kind of an exchange of butts.

>Anyway, the first thing that came to mind (quotes above
>notwithstanding) was the comment about her being second-gen WDF. It
>got me to wondering just who her parents were and what her childhood
>was like. Actually, it makes me wonder what childhood in general
>aboard the Wayward Son in the pre-Exile era would have been like.
>
>I've always had a mental image of the WDF, and it was a cool image --
>lots of anime-style spandex-and-leather-jacket uniforms, trenchcoats,
>an environment that looks like a cross between a college dorm and the
>troopship from Aliens, that sort of thing. It never had kids in it.
>But given the history, kids on board had to have been commonplace.
>
>I'm drifting a bit here, but for some reason that phrase really leaped
>out at me. Is it something you've considered, or am I leaning too far
>into Examining Too Closely territory?

Well, I touched on it a little in Gin's file, and in The Sterling Saga - all seven of Max and Miria's pre-Exile daughters were raised aboard the SDF-17, for the most part. The environment was sort of benignly anarchic - the core people of the Golden Age WDF were inclined to treat kids beyond the run-around-and-scream age as small adults, which was both good (kids like being taken seriously) and bad (but they tend to have poor judgment). You basically got two outcomes from that approach: the ones like Gin and the Sterlings who developed maturity early and took charge of their own shit, but hung onto their sense of fun, and became sort of zany Nietzschean supermen; and the ones who couldn't cope and ended up sullen and out of control. Interventions turned some of those around in their teens. Others turned out to be guys like Tom Edwards in Sanctuary. You win some, you lose some.

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73. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >It's a text encoding thing. Go into View->Character
>Encoding->Auto-Detect and see if it's set to Universal. If not, try
>that. If so, hmm, I dunno. That works for me with the same browser
>and version.
>
>We're in the early stages of trying to transition the site default
>from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8, which will probably cause more such
>confusion in the short term and (hopefully) eliminate it in the long.

For the record, the same problem exists in Safari, with a similar solution (View->Text Encoding->Unicode (UTF-8)).

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74. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >the ones like Gin and the Sterlings who developed
>maturity early and took charge of their own shit, but hung onto their
>sense of fun, and became sort of zany Nietzschean supermen;

IHNC, IJLS "zany Nietzschean supermen".

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76. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >Fixed Shepard's birthdate (no access to canonical reference when this
>file was originally written). Also altered her choice of weapons to
>reflect her (by which I mean my) preference in Mass Effect 2, a
>rifle which was in a DLC I didn't have the first time around. --G.
>20130212]

The Mattock? Best damn gun in the game.


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77. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >>Fixed Shepard's birthdate (no access to
>canonical reference when this
>>file was originally written). Also altered her choice of weapons to
>>reflect her (by which I mean my) preference in Mass Effect 2, a
>>rifle which was in a DLC I didn't have the first time around. --G.
>>20130212]

>
>The Mattock? Best damn gun in the game.

During firefights, I like to think of it as a conversational tool, a role for which it has much greater finesse than (for instance) the Vindicator.

"Weakening their - "

"BLAM BLAM BLAMBLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM and (pause, no, not quite dead yet) furthermore BLAM."

" - aaaurgggghhk."

"Oh, I'm sorry, were you talking?"

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78. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >>>Fixed Shepard's birthdate (no access to
>>canonical reference when this
>>>file was originally written). Also altered her choice of weapons to
>>>reflect her (by which I mean my) preference in Mass Effect 2, a
>>>rifle which was in a DLC I didn't have the first time around. --G.
>>>20130212]

>>
>>The Mattock? Best damn gun in the game.
>
>During firefights, I like to think of it as a conversational tool, a
>role for which it has much greater finesse than (for instance) the
>Vindicator.
>
>"Weakening their - "
>
>"BLAM BLAM BLAMBLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM and (pause, no, not quite dead yet)
>furthermore BLAM."
>
>" - aaaurgggghhk."
>
>"Oh, I'm sorry, were you talking?"
>
>--G.

If only it was available in ME1.

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79. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >>The Mattock? Best damn gun in the game.
>
>During firefights, I like to think of it as a conversational tool, a
>role for which it has much greater finesse than (for instance) the
>Vindicator.

Slightly off-topic: I can't see the word "Vindicator" without hearing a voice much like an 88 Skylark telling me "Your vindicator is online".

Heck, it's become a part of my shadowrun universe. All miniguns say such a thing when activated.

And, it wasn't until just now, when I looked it up to make sure it was, in fact, UF that I stole it from (I was 99% sure..) that I realized I've been misquoting Core-4 for the last 15 years.

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80. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >The Mattock? Best damn gun in the game.

I find that I must politely disagree, although, given the (awful) way ME2 handles its 'top tier' weapon selection, it'd be easy to miss my candidate.

But I would much, much rather have a Revenant.

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81. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-13 AT 10:13 PM (EST)
 
>But I would much, much rather have a Revenant.

I don't want this to turn into a debate about the merits of fictional guns (if you simply must have one, go make a new thread in UF General or something, this one's up to frickin' 81 anyway), but I would just like to say that the Revenant annoys me, inasmuch as the way I play Commander Shepard, she isn't an Imperial stormtrooper and, as such, likes guns better when they put the bullets at least more or less where she's pointing them. :)

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82. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   I have a question. Shepard's still a cyborg, despite having gone to Valhalla. What determines what shape someone will be in when they arrive at the afterlife?


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83. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >I have a question. Shepard's still a cyborg, despite having gone to
>Valhalla. What determines what shape someone will be in when they
>arrive at the afterlife?

It's sort of like how you look like you expect you'll look in the Matrix.

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84. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >>I have a question. Shepard's still a cyborg, despite having gone to
>>Valhalla. What determines what shape someone will be in when they
>>arrive at the afterlife?
>
>It's sort of like how you look like you expect you'll look in the
>Matrix.

So Briareos will still look like a full-body cyborg with rabbit ears in Valhalla(if he ever dies... I can imagine him, Zaeed, and Jango Fett fighting off mercenaries in an retirement home and complaining about how the standards have slipped since their day. :)


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85. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Would that work in reverse? Some particularly deluded sod dies and wakes up in Valhalla looking like a Greek Adonis?

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86. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   >Would that work in reverse? Some particularly deluded sod dies and
>wakes up in Valhalla looking like a Greek Adonis?

Hell if I know. My interest in these things extends only so far.

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87. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   My guess would be it's a self-image thing. If you truly, honestly believe you look like an Adonis, you will still do so. It's less how they /want/ to look and more what they expect to. So the truly delusional get a free make-over/plastic surgery when they die. Assuming they get to Valhalla of course. ;)

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88. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   This also means that people with ludicrously poor self-image will get shafted, too. Meh, guess they had to have some people Urd wouldn't want to bang...

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89. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   Neither of these are likely to end up in Valhalla (I won't say it's impossible) if you go by the classic 'die gloriously in battle' ideal. An Adonis would try to get out alive if they were caught in a fight with that kind of potential, because they tend to be self-centered asshats. The ones with poor self image are a little more likely to go out with a bang, I'll admit - but they don't tend to put themselves forward, so it's still 60/40 there.

Plus I would like think the Valkyries have at least -some- say in these matters, and it's possible a while in the golden city could change their perceptions to the point where their self-image would improve (possibly with the morning reset? I dunno, too much thought for this early in the day...)


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90. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   I suspect that it's based on self-image, and that it can change over time. After all, IIRC we've seen Odin's appearance change, and we know Skuld has "grown up" (at least a little :)). Most people are probably pretty stable by the time the get to Valhalla, but I'm sure someone who didn't have a lot of self-esteem but somehow died gloriously would probably gain more as they were heralded for their deeds, and that might cause a shift.

It's an interesting thought exercise, but I doubt I'll ever be able to test the theory (and if I do, may it be a LONG time coming :))

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91. "RE: BPGD: SHEPARD, Virginia"
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   besides, we are investigating this WAAAAAY to closely, really. Especially after Gryph basicly dropping a hint about us doing just that.


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