*blink blink*

Ah, okay. I shoulda figured it's something I've only read once or twice.

>He mentions that - it's because he's too busy to make the fold
>calculations in his head, and nobody else on the ship (except possibly
>Amanda) is able to operate a fold computer.

Ah, right. It slipped my mind while I was writing my comments.

>(Technically, we haven't seen that Daggerdisc can create its
>own metaspace jump point, only transit a metagate and navigate in
>metaspace; but then, one of those rocket-pack suits Spock used to
>explore V'Ger in Star Trek: The Motion Picture could
>theoretically do that. :)

Yes, and if Gryph can fit a Reflex furnace on a YT-1300-series light freighter, I think he can figure a way to fit a metagate generator in there, too.

-- Sean --

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You guys have been entertainment *galore* for those of us on the writers' side of the room. ;)

Ard

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The Psi Corps has created sleeper agents before, has it not? Who knows how long they'd had Liza before Kate & Co. rescued her.

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To be fair, someone did mention Xenia and Liza knowing each other somehow, as a theory.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that Liza is a telepath, though probably not a powerful one (P5, P6, maybe? I'm shooting in the dark here), so that she may be able to do things but wouldn't go loopy like a P12 would without training. (I'm guessing here, of course.) Ah well; such things will be made clear in time.

I'm more interested in the political repercussions of the Psi Corps trying to conscript a Zeta Cygnan. The Psi Corps won't be happy until they control all telepaths in the galaxy, obviously, but Zeta Cygni won't be too pleased with this.

This is, of course, assuming that Liza admits to what they were trying to do. Although Gryph, Zoner, & co. will know, without a doubt, what the Psi Corps were doing, due to Kaitlyn and four others hearing it, Liza may not want to report it, for the same reason she likely won't say anything about what Sean Creighton tried to do. (Doubly so, since once again Kaitlyn rescued her.)

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Then again, my friends do get onto me for being too damn intuitive for my own good.

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The main difference is that on may'Duj bortaS that's a good episode, because after getting SpoQ's brain back, Captain Koth and company, being Klingons, blow some shit up. :)

>>Hee, neat. Truss has Star Wars accessories, too.
>
>What I wanna know is, does the action figure come with the
>battle-droids too? ;)

Sure. Nobody ever buys battledroid action figures by themselves... you can only sell them as pack-ins...

>>Ahh, Kaitlyn's a master now. Cool.
>
>And we didn't get to see the party! :P :)

Patience! Everyone was much too tired to have it that same evening, and we've only seen as far as waking-time the next morning...

>Another thing, does Jer offer rabbits to everybody he encounters out
>here in the real world? Just curious.

Often.

>(Tangent: I thought Tremayne's superior was awfully lenient, letting
>him sulk on the Moon like that. If I was Commandant and my subordinate
>had just clusterfucked a blip capture operation in such a grandiose
>manner, I'd dope him up on sleepers, stick him in a small cage and let
>the teep kids poke at him with very sharp sticks. But that's me.)

Yes - that is interesting, isn't it?

>"A Reflex cannon. A fucking Reflex cannon. Where the hell do
>you keep all this stuff in a YT-1300 hull???"

Where the cargo used to be, of course.

>The connections linking Liza -> Xenia -> Devlin were all there, plain
>sight, most obvious path, and we all ignored it in favor of "Liza's a
>latent teep" or "Liza ratted on X, not Devlin" theories. Well done,
>Mr. Director.

Thank you, thank you. As Ard mentions, we've all had a good time watching the speculation. :)

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>>(Tangent: I thought Tremayne's superior was awfully lenient, letting
>>him sulk on the Moon like that. If I was Commandant and my subordinate
>>had just clusterfucked a blip capture operation in such a grandiose
>>manner, I'd dope him up on sleepers, stick him in a small cage and let
>>the teep kids poke at him with very sharp sticks. But that's me.)
>
>Yes - that is interesting, isn't it?

I expect he's using the same idea that Eisenhower did: Even if they have one massive clusterfuck, KEEP THEM AROUND. They may still have use in them, or at least be properly sacrificed later to keep the hounds at bay.

Knowing Gryphon's enjoyment of The History Channel - All Hitler, All The Time! - I expect this to be the case. Tremayne had one large mistake: he underestimated the devotion of the Duellists and the Federation to each other. The idea that Dios might go and dial 1-800-CORWIN-HELP was not something anyone could have predicted...

Dear God. What's the NEXT school year going to be like?

--
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(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

Actually, not to piss on your parade, but Roger made several large mistakes, the biggest of which was authorizing the mistreatment of a princess of Gamilon.

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He could probably get out of that by claiming that he didn't actually KNOW this at the time he began... but yes, that's a bad one, too. Once he did the deep scan and hit THAT little tidbit, he should have pulled back and been the soul of decorum.

If we want to point out his BIGGEST mistake, it's not actually HIS - it's the Psi Cops in general. Their entire attitude of superiority, so that when people actually RESIST them, or foil their plans, they all seem to lose their cool and become irrational.

Which begs the question of just WHY? The whole concept of repressing their telepathic powers through training feeding back in the way that Surak taught a number of the Vulcans to avoid with cthia? Really, in B5 and in this episode, as soon as someone proves to be more capable than they'd expect, the PsiCorps member in question immediately drops the ball. They lose their focus and it all goes to Hell. Or is it just that the Psi Corps mentality of 'telepaths are superior to normals' is so completely OVERRIDING of anything else that the first shove against the structure makes it all come down?

Granted, I'm currently hoping for a scene when Tremayne deep-scans Zoner. It should be instructive, if short and painful (for Tremayne).

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(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

Any mistake that comes within a hair's width of causing the eradication of all life on Earth is not something for which excuses can be made.

Also... Roger isn't one to beg, plead or grovel. I suspect he took his demotion with a stony face and an eerie calmness.

(That's just my speculation, btw, based on what I know of the character.)

Besides, he did know. It's a matter of public record, and it would have been in Miss LeClercq's report. His troops may not have known, but if so that's only because Roger made the mistake of not telling them.

>If we want to point out his BIGGEST mistake, it's not actually HIS -
>it's the Psi Cops in general. Their entire attitude of superiority,
>so that when people actually RESIST them, or foil their plans, they
>all seem to lose their cool and become irrational.
>
>Which begs the question of just WHY?

I won't answer for all cases... but in Hunted Rose, they were dealing not only with normals, but normal children. Even a normal could make that mistake in judgement.

--truss.

The Psi Corps attracts certain kinds of people, especially two particular kinds which make for trouble.

The first kind is the kind that all law enforcement agencies attract- the petty thug who enjoys the arbitrary authority a badge brings.

The second kind is worse- the kind that reasons that, since everyone else is obviously worse than they are, that everyone else must be controlled for Their Own Good. This is the mentality that desires order, structure, and hierarchy, and which cannot abide a competing hierarchy or, worse yet, a free society.

Neither of these kinds of people is terribly smart in the first place, and they're all too easy prey for the -third- kind... the kind who don't just want authority or order, but raw power. Thus, they are actively -discouraged- from original thought, and when an original situation comes up, they aren't equipped to cope.

The third kind -do- cope, of course, which is why -they- come back in later episodes while the other two kinds tend to have short careers.

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We saw what happened to someone trying to mind-rape Zoner when he was dark and brooding. Now he works for Eris.

If Tremayne tries to deep-scan Zoner, he turns into our newest ally.

Freakazoid.

--rR

I just blew up at work when I was re-reading the credits and came upon:

Network 23 Field Assistance Droid R-06R
Network 23 Field Assistance Droid G-3N3

Roger and Gene, eh? (Dear God, I'm reading too much Megatokyo, I got the joke IMMEDIATELY....

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(They won't give me LARTs, they say that's restricted to Michael.)

Hey, you're one up on the droids themselves. They still haven't figured it out. :)

--truss.
(But then, I'm just as slow... it took me a minute to comprehend why reading too much Megatokyo would help anyone comprehend this joke.)

But don't you think having them actually know each other, and for Liza-the-major-ego to be willing to play 2nd fiddle to Xenia and be her henchman, is way too convenient, an easy way out?

Regards,
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Jeanne

I'm sorry, when did we say they knew each other?

--G.
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"If you and your idiot brother hadn't double-crossed your
sister, she would never have told me about your teep boyfriend and
NONE of this would have HAPPENED!" Liza snarled.

If they don't know each other, then why is Liza saying that Xenia told her about Devlin?

The double-cross is Xenia getting cut out of the succession in favor of Amanda, right? Wasn't that arranged by a private agreement between Amanda and Garon? If Xenia didn't tell her, how does Liza know about Amanda and Garon's "double-cross" of Xenia?

Regards,
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Jeanne

That's all true, but none of it requires them to know each other; it requires only that they have had one conversation.

Patience. It'll be covered in greater detail in Reflections.

--G.
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Pretty dumb of Xenia to pick up the phone and give someone she doesn't know that information (for that matter, how would Xenia know of Liza in the first place, let alone her... personality - Liza's not in Amanda's circle so you'd think Xenia wouldn't be interested). Has Xenia never heard of deniability and working through intermediaries, or does that not apply with her where humans are concerned?

>Patience. It'll be covered in greater detail in Reflections.

Speaking of upcoming stories, will we EVER get to see Kei and Yuri as "Kei and Yuri" again? I miss them. All we ever see of them any more is as Mom, or neighbor, or their husband's/boyfriend's appendage. Of course, in the UF universe, their function is to be the latter, but there used to be a UF story every so often where they were allowed to be the central players.

Regards,
Jeanne

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Jeanne

>(for that matter, how would Xenia know of Liza
>in the first place, let alone her... personality - Liza's not in
>Amanda's circle so you'd think Xenia wouldn't be interested).

Research.

>Has
>Xenia never heard of deniability and working through intermediaries,
>or does that not apply with her where humans are concerned?

Certainly; but in this case it was necessary to get involved directly because of time constraints, and the fact that the Corps didn't get the idea the first time around and needed a bit more of a direct push.

>>Patience. It'll be covered in greater detail in Reflections.
>
>Speaking of upcoming stories, will we EVER get to see Kei and
>Yuri as "Kei and Yuri" again?

Dunno. Depends on how the solar winds blow, or whatever your favorite metaphor for mojo is.

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Well, if I was planning for the untimely demise of my sister so as that I could take the throne. I'd keep really good track of anybody she associated with AND the enemies of those associates just in case one of them became useful someday.

-----------------------------------
Chris can't handle covert intelligence

Because she's a teek, and teeks are crazy?

>The double-cross is Xenia getting cut out of the succession in favor
>of Amanda, right? Wasn't that arranged by a private agreement between
>Amanda and Garon? If Xenia didn't tell her, how does Liza know about
>Amanda and Garon's "double-cross" of Xenia?

It was only said that she wasn't a telepath. Not that she wasn't talented.

Blessed be.
Nathan Baxter
(Actually, I favor the psi-null theory, but it IS an interesting line of thought.)

<satire on>

ATTENTION ALL:
They are not cute bunny rabbits. They are evil creature bent on taking over the universe! They just let the humans think they are in charge! See the newsgroup alt.devilbunnies to learn about the human/bunny war!

<satire off>
DrOsborn

>
>-><-
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they are so cute fuzzy bunny rabbits! :)

--
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Cute, fuzzy bunny rabbits. I like. Seems like everyone bringing their cute pets to the future right now. First the beagle and now this. What'd you do, give them Omega-2 or something?

Matrix Dragon
"Immortal bunnies. Cool."

If only we could have.

--truss,
only got to meet Bailey a couple of times.

>Harcourt Mudd (related or parents were just fans?) "Mac" Mackenzie is,
>officially, now my favorite original character in all the Eyrie canon.
>Just thought I'd mention that.

I've been waiting for someone to say something like that since Hunted Rose was first plotted out (which was, if memory serves, while Questions of Faith was being written). Thank you, thank you, thank you. }:-{D

Harcourt McKenzie was named by his (now deceased) grandfather after a dear friend of the family, the infamous con man Harcourt Fenton Mudd. Mac is ashamed of his middle name for two reasons: to most of the Federation, Mudd is a notorious con man; and to most of the Freespacers, Mudd is a notorious -incompetent- con man. Thankfully there is no blood relation, and Mac's father left the smuggling business when dear old Granddad was killed.

There's a story in that, but I've only written the introduction thus far.

Alas, Mac will not get many more chances to shine as he might in HR and in the upcoming entr'acte. He was meant to be the token ordinary guy, and once things settle down he'll go back to being ordinary... with a noticable anarchic streak. }:-{D

>G'Kron and his trusty Louisville Slugger: Well, I suppose it was
>inevitable...

It's not like we didn't give you plenty of warning... }:-{D

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Well, you're welcome, you're welcome, you're welcome. :)

>Harcourt McKenzie was named by his (now deceased) grandfather after a
>dear friend of the family, the infamous con man Harcourt Fenton Mudd.
>Mac is ashamed of his middle name for two reasons: to most of the
>Federation, Mudd is a notorious con man; and to most of the
>Freespacers, Mudd is a notorious -incompetent- con man. Thankfully
>there is no blood relation, and Mac's father left the smuggling
>business when dear old Granddad was killed.

Oh, I dunno. Harry might've been a shitty con artist, but he always had style. I can understand why the Freespacers might not appreciate incompetence in those fields, though.

>There's a story in that, but I've only written the introduction thus
>far.

Well, there's always a story. It wouldn't be UF if there wasn't. ;)

>Alas, Mac will not get many more chances to shine as he might in HR
>and in the upcoming entr'acte. He was meant to be the token ordinary
>guy, and once things settle down he'll go back to being ordinary...
>with a noticable anarchic streak. }:-{D

Bah, it's the quiet anarchists you have watch out for. The loud ones give you too much advance warning. >:)

>>G'Kron and his trusty Louisville Slugger: Well, I suppose it was
>>inevitable...
>
>It's not like we didn't give you plenty of warning... }:-{D

This is true, this is true.

Mr. Fnord, quiet anarchist.
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'No, no! The adventures first,' said the Gryphon in an impatient tone: 'explanations take such a dreadful time.'"
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drakensisthered

Sorry. Not very sorry, but sorry in a general sort of way.

Maybe the boss is smarter than we take him for. If it was just a flub on a blip smash-and-grab, that would be one thing. But when the opposition includes:

• The CFMF
  
• A highly advanced non-Asimovian robot
  
• Two robots that are either the galaxy's smallest security droids or the galaxy's most overpowered toy bots.
  
• The Crown Princess of Gamilon, and thus Mr. Planet Bomb Himself
  
• The personal off-road sportship of a Benjamin D. Hutchins, living legend on Earth and indirectly responsible for wiping Worcester off the map twice, and keeping in mind that such sportship eluded Earthforce by apparently breaking six seperate laws of physics
  
• An RA with power armor that impresses Gryphon
  

one may assume that the problem wasn't so much the execution, but the intelligence. Add to that the fact that they may not have had time for proper intel per standard procedures, and you realize that Tremayne isn't particularly incompetent.

I think a similar effect would be had if a police department attempted a drug raid on a facility that turned out to be a powwow between the Mafia, the <insert here> "State Militia", the GRU and the US arm of Al Quada.

Tremayne was well prepared to extract one student from a college campus. He was not ready at all to handle a tremendously unlikely confluence of such highly talented people and such incredible equipment.

--rR

>
• The CFMF
  >
• A highly advanced non-Asimovian robot
  >
• Two robots that are either the galaxy's smallest security droids
  >or the galaxy's most overpowered toy bots.
  >
• The Crown Princess of Gamilon, and thus Mr. Planet Bomb Himself
  >
• The personal off-road sportship of a Benjamin D. Hutchins, living
  >legend on Earth and indirectly responsible for wiping Worcester off
  >the map twice, and keeping in mind that such sportship eluded
  >Earthforce by apparently breaking six seperate laws of physics
  >
• An RA with power armor that impresses Gryphon
  >

This is all true, but I don't think it excuses Tremayne in the least. The major problem is his initial response to finding out who the blip was on campus. If he had done it right the first time, none of this would have happened and they'd have Devlin (and only Devlin) scot-free.

What they -should- have done is sent in a small team of plainclothes Enforcers...they couldn't have possibly passed for students, but they could have passed for parents, if there were only two. They should have stayed and scoped out the place for a few days, find a place where Devlin went alone (Ironically, his practice sessions at Bancroft Tower would have been perfect), and nabbed him without anyone else being the wiser. People disappear all the time, the Psi Corps might never have been suspected by any but his allies in the Underground. Instead, Tremayne decided it would be more fun to flex his muscle. He ended up turning out an extremely unprofessional plan, one which nearly got every living being on Earth annihilated. What's worse, if he -did- have reports on Devlin's friends and chose to take them anyway (Sure, they resisted, but a lot of difference that makes to the Gamilon Emperor!) the fate of Earth would land most directly on Tremayne's shoulders.

All in all, Tremayne screwed the pooch. Repeatedly. That's the only conclusion I can come to.

--"I invoke the rites of fiery Muspelheim, and give thy soul up to the inferno's embrace..."

Perhaps, but there seemed no need to do this. This is an extremely involved arrest procedure, the kind of thing better suited to an elaborate sting operation than the simple arrest of a single blip. In special cases, perhaps this would be done, but the intel Roger's people had didn't indicate that this was a special case. Far from it, in fact - their preliminary investigation indicated no Underground presence here, and thus no backup for Devlin. A simple, straightforward squad arrest - what was attempted on the Quad, the standard procedure in such cases - was prescribed by standing procedures. The lockdown of the campus was a precautionary measure, intended to snag any members of the Underground they might have missed in their initial sweep, but they really didn't expect to find any. They were just doing what the book says to do.

You have to understand - as a general rule, telepaths on the run don't make close friends among the normals. There was no reason, based on past history, for the Corps to expect Devlin to have such a large, loyal and exceptional group of friends. Certainly they knew about the Duelists' Society, having had an agent in the school staff for a few weeks, but come on - if you were a highly-placed law-enforcement official would you take a group of high school students who fancy themselves "duelists" seriously?

>People disappear all the time, the Psi Corps might
>never have been suspected by any but his allies in the Underground.

... er, if Devlin abruptly disappeared, I should think Amanda, for one, would considerably more than suspect the Corps.

Yes, Roger did screw up. He failed to react flexibly enough when the situation changed; his first indication of trouble should have been the unexpected and unusual resistance put up by Devlin's companions at the time of his arrest, to say nothing of the identity of one of them. (The fault there is not entirely his; he wasn't informed by the arresting officer of Amanda's claim, and the fact that she's a princess isn't kept in the general school files - Roger would have had to crosscheck with Immigration & Naturalization Services or recognize the name "Dessler" to realize that immediately.)

When it became clear to him who Amanda was, he should have released her, but at that point, the damage was already done, so he decided he might as well keep her a while longer and see what he could get. This, too, was an error in judgment, but by then he was angry about the whole situation and not thinking clearly.

--G.
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Um... nope. I don't believe I've ever heard of that, although for some reason the word "Dathomir" is making a neuron itch someplace.

>4) Who's Mu again? I should know this, but at 4am it escapes me.

I'm not sure I get your context, but off the top of my head, "mu" is a Greek letter, a shorthand for "um... both, either, your question is unanswerable", and a mythical Lost Continent like Atlantis and Lemuria.

--G.
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I thought "Mu" (or "Moo") was the name of some demon off some cartoon show in the last couple of years... I don't think I'm thinking of Aku from from Samurai Jack, but I don't know... Anyway, I guess that's not what I was thinking of. :)

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I can't believe I could answer that....*sigh*

Tom 'Dreamshadow' Tjarks
------------------------
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THANK YOU! I knew it was from SOMETHING! Oh, man, you have made my day; that was driving me nuts. Thank you.

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Don't worry, it could be worse. Howabout having a guilty pleasure in the form of Jem and the Holograms....

I have a very good excuse.

I own all of the commercially released J&TH audio and video cassettes. I also have a complete run of the show on nth gen tape from another fan. And a fairly complete selection of the songs from the show that I duped onto cassette from my VCR back in the 80s when it was first run.

I don't feel very guilty about it.

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...Wow. I'd begun to believe I was the only one who remembered that show.

When they played Sailor Goon at NekoCon, I think I was the only one in the room who got the J&TH joke.

-- Sean --

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actually, I can top that. I saw Josie and the Pussycats on TV which was pretty much source for Jem. I had nothing against J&tH... the show was big on WAFF, but the music (especially that written for the Holograms) rocked.

___________________

Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

>>...Wow. I'd begun to believe I was the only one who remembered that
>>show.
>>
>>When they played Sailor Goon at NekoCon, I think I was the only
>>one in the room who got the J&TH joke.

What joke?

Still thinking...

Sailor Goon is a fansub parody of Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon. Whenever a Sailor Scot (Failure Scout in the fansub) would transform, the subtitle would be quoting some other transformation sequence, such as:

"Sailor Mammary: maximize!"
"It's Morphin time!"
"For the honor of Greyskull!"

etc.

One of them was Jem's transformation call ("Synergy: showtime!" comes to mind, but I don't remember if that's right or not). I recognized it, and laughed, but I think I was the only one who did.

-- Sean --

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"Showtime, Synergy."

"Show's over, Synergy."

Peter Eng
--
who remembers useless information quite well, thank you.

It's too close to what Roger uses to call The Big O. So I get them confused. *shrug*

-- Sean --

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Roger Smith...Jem...Big O...DYO...

(train of thought happily derailed)

--rR

MegaZone's a Jem fan?! Strangely enough, now that makes me less worried about it. Thank you.

The songs were kinda catchy, weren't they?

I remain *consistently* amused that the villain of Jem and the Holograms shares his name with one of the foremost proponents of Open Source software-- Eric Raymond. :)

The fact that J&TH Eric leads the Misfits against the slick, shiny, manfactured front of Jem and Co. (and the philanthropic work of Jessica Benton) amuses me even more.

Ard

Ard Sumhenner
Ronin Research, Sacramento, CA

(sigh)

Some people have such cool stuff...

Peter Eng
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I only have one LD of those.

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Mu was in the Pacific or Indian Oceans, trying to explain some strange thing or another that people felt like trying to explain woth catastrophie instead of a more rational idea like continental drift. Atlantis for the Egyptians and Maya, Lemuria to explain how monkeys got from Africa to South America.

My New Age mythology's a little rusty these days after about fifty someodd credits of standard, college level anthropology.

Berk Watkins
Student of Quantum Bogodynamics...

The Witches of Dathomir are Force-using spiritualists, in the Expanded SW Universe, native to the primitive population of the planet Dathomir, whose teachings were started by a female Jedi who was stranded or somesuch on their planet. The Witches prefer to stay on Dathomir; however, a Dark Side-using clan of Witches, called the Nightsisters, made their way off of the planet and served the Empire before being mostly annihilated. The few that remain have been trying to resurrect the Nightsisters, and have been taking even male Force-sensitives as students.

-- Sean --

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OK... weird. Having pretty much avoided everything to do with "the Expanded SW Universe", I have no idea why the word makes me think I've heard it before.

--G.
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I may have mentioned it in passing on a board post. I intended to say as such in my earlier post; I'm not going to confirm or deny, because, at the moment, I really don't feel like doing the search, as I needs to head out again soon, and that's almost 700 posts to check. (Ye gods, I need to get out more.)

-- Sean --

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Yes and yes. But, now I've just gotta know:

Do the bad guys listen to Reason?

Blessed be.
Nathan Baxter
(Who thinks that's one of those lines that you just can't -not- use.)

Hmm, I dunno... Corwin hasn't built it yet...

--G.
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>Static-Pulse

The "Ancients of Mu" come up when Mac is explaining why Devlin is so important to the Freespacers. Those would be the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu, or simply the JAMS, as in "Kick out the JAMS, mutherfuckers!"

Consult Robert Anton Wilson, Eris, your pineal gland, or the KLF.

--rR

"The KLF is gonna ROCK YA!/Ancients of Mu Mu"

You'd think that the sheer existence of Battle Droids would disabuse people of that notion...

--rR

Guess it just goes to show that even in the future, there are still
going to be people who are utterly clueless when it comes to
technology more complex than a toaster.

Alath A'Tharen
No, I've never worked in a tech support job ...

Mouz
"The Dragon Spooker"--Lina Inverse
"She Who Must Be Avoided"--Dwarven name for Granny Weatherwax
"Go Around The Other Side Of The Mountain"--Troll name for Granny Weatherwax

Good catch on the references, but you left out 'Bandit Killer' as one of Lina's monikers.

However, Aya is neither Lina Inverse nor Granny Weatherwax; she only has the equivalent amount of 'respect' of either one. She is not (quite) as impulsive as Lina, she is nowhere near as wise or understanding of 'headology' as Weatherwax is, and she's not as razor-sharp intelligent as either one. She is cunning and headstrong enough for both, though.

I don't have a clue what we'd do with a witch in UF, but we -may- or -may not- actually have a Lina Inverse in a future story. Stay tuned.

Redneck

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but I do, for reasons that ought to be obvious if you think about it for a few minutes. :)

--G.
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Correction: I don't know what we'd do with Esmerelda 'Granny' Weatherwax in UF. This is not your generic witch...

Redneck (and AFAIK you haven't ever read the Discworld books; your loss)

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...Well, in her case, you don't do anything with her. Granny Weatherwax is the only one who decides what she's doing. And I, for one, will gladly go around the other side of the mountain to avoid either getting in the way, or worse, getting involved.

-- Sean --

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But hey, I think Gytha "Nanny" Ogg and Urd would get along famously.

Just think: Endless repetitions of the Hedgehog Song over Sake and Nanny;s patented Scumble.

--Mouz
Ohh the hedgehog can never be buggered at all--opening line of the Hedgehog Song
It's made of apples. Well, mostly apples.--Nanny's description of Scumble.

Except for the fact that niether Kate nor Utena OWN a dog, I'd have to agree with you. Come to think of it, Dot's the only one with a NORMAL pet at this point... Appologies to Nall and whatever that... that... whatever of Janice's is.

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

I think the word you're looking for is "space ranger."

Oh, no, wait. That's UFme, not Mitra. :)

Ard

Ard Sumhenner
Ronin Research, Sacramento, CA

Sorry, COUldnt resist.

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Heh... I could see Utena having a dog. She seemed to get on well enough with the Beagle of the Lens, and overall she strikes me as more of a dog-oriented person - blunt, unsophisticated, proud of it. :)

If Kaitlyn ever has a pet, odds are it won't be what you and I would call "normal". :)

--G.
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At least there'd be about a 95% chance of getting away with calling it a 'cat', though. :)

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I've spent enough time in the company of cats, including being an on-again, off-again cat slave owner to be thoroughly terrified of any feline with a Lens.

-- Sean --

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The main problem for me was, the more I thought about it, the more the mental image warped into a Frazetta painting. :)

And then, while making sure I was spelling 'Frazetta' right, I was silly enough to go to his site and stumbled on this:

http://www.frankfrazetta.com/gallery/lithographs/lith_120_countess.jpegx

(remove the x at the end when the 404 comes up)

And I thought I was just kidding.

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Gee, a tiger isn't a normal pet to have?

Still thinking....

True... No one in their right mind would call Starscream "Normal" let alone a PET. That would DEFINATLY be hazardous to one's health. ^_^

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Vaughn doesn't know I exist. I guess this explains why the rest of reality keeps ignoring me as well. >_<

Eh. I can't say anything on this- my UF counterpart had a pet flying talking pink goldfish for thirty years.

Redneck

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I've always wondered whatever happened to him. One day he was there eating potato chips and then we don't hear anything about him.

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Mechanical Engineering major, Berkeley, CA

He didn't die; Gyopi just said one day he had to go back 'home', wherever Washuu got him, and UF-me never asked for a replacement.

However, you will see more of Gyopi... well, -a- Gyopi, anyway. }:-{D

Redneck

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I guess that means little Wapiko has decided jigglypuffs aren't enough for her...

Pangaro, Cath the potatoe!!
Member of the Narn Bat Squad

Actually, if -Wapiko- was the one making the decision, she'd make a pet of every animal life form in the universe.

No, this Gyopi is a gift, and it will be given when her parents think Wapiko's attention span is long enough to take care of an actual pet.

Redneck (besides, I am NOT keeping SIX JIGGLYPUFFS in my house!!)

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Looks like you're still recovering from that one.

Matrix Dragon

Aren't those the ones who make people sleep with their songs? You could certainly use some sleep...

Pangaro, I supose Wapiko is inmune to them...
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