By an odd coincidence, one of the things that drives me frickin' crazy about that show is that, since Ruby uses her whatever-that-thing-is's gun function as a maneuvering aid about half the time, she is in fact shooting up the whole neighborhood any time she has a fight scene. In that first episode she's firing high-powered rifle rounds in all directions at random without anyone, including the animators, ever seeming to give any consideration to the self-evident fact that they've all got to be hitting something somewhere. That's... not very heroic, and I have to believe was not the intent.

--G.
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I shouldn't read these forums so soon after breakfast; on my first read-through this came out as "without hitting anyone, including the animators".

Might make her a better prospect for one of those "you can always tell where they've been" teams, though. Maybe that's one of her psionic-powered skills, "avoid innocent bystanders (most of the time)"...?

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Given that the ammunition for Crescent Rose seems to be as much Dust-based as any other weapon in RWBY, I suspect that the "bullets" may in fact be "magical" effects that are specifically-targetted and harmless to anything else.

But that's just me going for a RoosterTeeth No-Prize.

-- Bob
And it doesn't cover Nora's grenade launcher, which launches visible grenades. With little hearts on them. Then again, she doesn't spam her targets like Ruby does...
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From what I've read, the majority of personal weapons in RWBY have some Dust component involved with them, even if it's not directly noticeable. Having it stored in cartridges and shells (like Crescent Rose's bullets, and Ember Celica's shells) would make it easily reloadable and transportable, though requiring some mechanism or time to swap out types. Unlike Weiss's Myrtenaster, which has the 6-Dust chamber design for flexibility at the cost of not being able to reload as easily in the heat of battle (that I've seen so far). I would assume, being skilled with their respective personally-built weapons, Ruby and Yang can control whether or not an actual projectile gets expelled when propulsive effects are desired.

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Speaking of, it would be interesting to see what the Belkan Knights would do in UF, especially the Iron Knight, Vita. Pretty much the simplest explanation of Vita is "we successfully* constructed a hybrid of the GaoGaiGar and the Alt Eisen, in the form of a 12-year-old girl"

*If you measure success in terms of property damage.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

And honestly, I'd like to see Nanoha in it, as well. The series as a whole seems to me like it would fit quite well in UF.

I assume however that the events of the first two series would take place somewhere like New Japan rather than Tomodachi, where someone like Belldandy would notice little girls shooting magical blasts at each other, and do something kind yet firm about it. That would probably short-circuit the entire plot.

As for Nanoha in general, the series' tone of "everything this girl does is right, because we said so" might rub Gryphon the wrong way as much as TLOK's "everything this girl does is wrong, because we said so". On the other hand, cleaning up the Original Creator's Shenanigans has led to some of EPU's best stuff in the past, so it could go either way, I suppose.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Maybe it's because I'm getting old, but I find that kind of thing is harder and harder work these days. TLOK is just about killing me, although that's at least partly because I can't discard the canon wholesale for reasons.

More practically, I seem to recall being warned on this very board once never to watch Nanoha because it will pretend to be my friend and then crush my soul. I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds very negative to me.*

--G.
* Good Morning Vietnam reference!
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If you were going to investigate the franchise, I would recommend starting (and ending) with A's, the second season. It has the best representation of the characters and the least amount of soul-crushing.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

If the creative staff (or anyone else, for that matter) is interested, I could provide links to streaming video of both the original series and the movies, with subtitles. I'll leave it to G to decide whether I should post them as links or in PMs.

If I do link them, I should forewarn people that, although the sites I use are reasonably safe, normal precautions should be taken. Adblock, no clicking of banners or suspect links, no-script, you know the measures I mean.

Back on topic: Wallace and Gromit. They work with Skuld. You know it, I know it. Hell, Skuld probably co-authored Electronics For Dogs...

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

Gracious me, but you're aggressive lately. But at least it's not directed at me this time. :)

>Back on topic: Wallace and Gromit. They work with Skuld. You know it,
>I know it. Hell, Skuld probably co-authored Electronics For
>Dogs...

She only wrote the foreword. Most of the inside text is Ein and Mr. Peabody.

--G.
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Yeah. Masters is getting to me. Found out a good friend was incredibly racist. Parents found and binned my antidepressants. Pick one. All sucks. Still shouldn't snap at people though. Or talk like Mordin.

>She only wrote the foreword. Most of the inside text is Ein and Mr.
>Peabody.

"Eee, Gromit lad, you're the second non-Brazilian to travel through time! This calls for some Wensleydale!"

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! Well, that seems inadvisable on several levels. Cripes.

--G.
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My first thought was 'Dust is multi-purpose', like the explanation already in this thread. On the other hand, Glinda was ripping Ruby a new one after the fight. Maybe not just because there's some scythe marks in the street :)

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-- Bob
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Moodwise, at least, yeah. Mouretsu Pirates' space-side setting and involvement would seem to require placing the characters out in the Big Universe, but I could easily see the Yacht Club at DSM. Perhaps the Bentenmaru and the other originals were outsiders brought in as part of the fight against the Cardassians, a la the Flying Tigers?

Sadly, the review I posted of the show when I first watched it didn't garner much interest.

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"Yes, and it was glorious."

That's not really that much of an achievement; I've never heard of most of the nominations that have turned up in these threads. :)

--G.
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Nor have I, sometimes... but then, I don't get a lot of UF references overall because our reference pools have a smaller overlap than I'd like.

If you can find a copy of the book, though -- long out of print, sadly -- I highly recommend it. And I'm thinking they could easily be another Diqiu band, with some unfriendly part of the spirit world substituting for the Sidh realm...

-- Bob
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I actually owned a copy once, although I couldn't tell you whether I sold it or if it is in storage. As I recall, it came out in that era where almost all urban fantasy novels involved the Sidhe and the Pacific Northwest.

(Probably due to the Emma Bull/Charles De Lint influence, I'm guessing).

However, if you can get past the somewhat heavy-handed moralizing, I'd think Mercedes Lackey's SERRAted Edge books might be even more suitable for UF. The elves in question aren't in a band, but they DO race stock cars....

Yes, but Christa was such a Mary Sue, we really don't need to introduce her to UF. I am quite familiar with the book. I love it dearly, for a bunch of reasons, many having to do with my friends in College. But I don't think she needs to be in UF. Monica, Devi, Boo-boo and Melinda, perhaps. But not Christa. :}

>I actually owned a copy once, although I couldn't tell you whether I
>sold it or if it is in storage. As I recall, it came out in that era
>where almost all urban fantasy novels involved the Sidhe and the
>Pacific Northwest.

If it's in storage, and it's in good condition, it's possibly reasonable valuable. I've seen used copies going for $60.

>(Probably due to the Emma Bull/Charles De Lint influence, I'm
>guessing).

Emma Bull set _War for the Oaks_ in Minneapolis, I thought. And DeLint mostly alternated between Ottowa and Newford (which is fictional and could be ANYWHERE).

Why yes, you have both managed to pull out quite a LARGE chunk of my adolescent reading habits here. ;)

>However, if you can get past the somewhat heavy-handed moralizing, I'd
>think Mercedes Lackey's SERRAted Edge books might be even more
>suitable for UF. The elves in question aren't in a band, but they DO
>race stock cars....

...No.

Yes, I read them. Even at the time, they seemed somehow...merely adequate. And these days...no. Just no. They were so mediocre as to be boring. Also, they had an awful lot of Lackey going, "Hmm, can't figure out what I want to do with this character that's interesting...I know, I'll TORTURE THEM SOME MORE." Like Vanyel in the Heralds of Valdemar, only with even less reason.

Ah, the DiMartino Method.

--G.
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I'll admit to being more fond of the Tannim duology. Not so much for the main character, but for Chinthliss, the Chinese dragon with a fondness for wearing Armani suits when in human form. He was... amusing.

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I can't take credit for knowing that offhand, by the way. I knew it was around, but I didn't know where, so I searched the site for "subspace synchotron" nand went from there.

EDIT: UGH, and it turns out I was completely confusing Silent Mobius with Sol Bianca. That's on me, everyone. I did that. Please disregard.

-Merc
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Lebia Maverick has been met briefly (she works for the IPO) in one of Geoff's stories a while back. Larry always had plans for Rally Cheyenne, but that's sort of laid fallow these past decades. ^_^;

That, and various Spinners show up, and I believe R-Type had developed a new one for G to use during Checkmate.

--- Philip

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... actually.

Do places count as characters? Can we request more of them? Because I goddamn love New Avalon and the whole Dyson Sphere Republic thing. So I'd like to request New Avalon.

-Merc
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And it doesn't look all that pretty. In just Trailer 5, which seems to focus largely on New Avalon I count at least four factions (Covenant, Big Fire, Federated Nazis, and Zod).

-Droken

I had been thinking, why the hell did she have a helmet on if the chest was going to be like that. =)

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this world created by the
hands of the gods
everything is false
everything is a LIE
the final days have come
now
let everything be destroyed

--mu

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

(Flesh in quotes because, despite the cornucopia of Rule 34 material out there featuring Tali, we really don't know what color Quarians' skin is. It could be transparent for all we know, which would give some Commander Sheppards a very strange fetish.)

Ebony the Black Dragon

"Life is like an anole. Sometimes it's green. Sometimes it's brown. But it's always a small Caribbean lizard."

-Droken

I haven't seen the film, but even from the trailer, if the setting were any more obviously Republic City ca. 300 ASC, you'd be able to see the Aang statue in the establishing shots. :)

--G.
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