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"BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
 
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photo by Adam Kopala

H/V Phoenix Queen
(PQ9-613)

Overview

The last creation of a reclusive and eccentric master shipwright, the Phoenix Queen represents a pinnacle of 24th-century small starship design and technology; she is as much a work of art as a working space vehicle. Aficionados of the 23rd-and-24th-century custom light starship craft movement refer to her as "the Red Ghost" or "the Last Stradivarius".

Name/Model: PQ9-class custom spaceframe
Manufacturer: Gorō Muramune
Combat designation: Long-range corvette
Entered service: 2345

Crew: Up to 5
Passengers: Up to 9, depending on crew complement
Length: 288 ft 9 in
Wingspan: 216 ft 6 in
Mass: 1.25 kt

Power system: ExoSalusia Heavy Industries Mod 44 Mk II antimatter annihilation reactor, J-228B fusion reactor, and Type 24 energy converter stack
Propulsion system: 2x General Atomics Thrustline-144 fusion impulse thrusters
2x General Atomics Thrustline-124 fusion impulse thrusters
Speed rating: 150 MGLT
Flight control system: Custom
Maneuver rating: 110 DPF
Navigation: Radekon Advanced Technology Trajectrak 17 superluminal computer core
FTL: Custom-built Cochrane space distortion drive system
Warp speed rating (cruise): Warp Factor 10
Warp speed rating (flank): Warp Factor 15.5
Secondary FTL: Corellian Engineering Corporation 2240.109d hyperspace motivator drive unit
Hyperdrive rating: 1.5

Shields: Custom-built multicore projection deflector shield system
Shield rating: 325 SBD
Armor: Composite-reinforced tritanium alloy plating
Armor rating: 275 RU

ARMAMENT
Fixed armaments:
2x custom-built point phaser arrays
4x Taim & Bak KX5 blaster cannons
Expendable armaments: 2x custom-built compact flexible-payload missile tubes

History

The Phoenix Queen began her career as Platform Q9, the last spaceframe to be constructed in the automated workshop of the brilliant Gorō Muramune (2202-2345), one of the last of the independent shipwrights who once flourished at the fringes of settled space. Muramune was famed for most of the 23rd century and into the 24th for the elegance, beauty, and deadly efficiency of his designs. Unlike many of his peers, he scorned the criminal underbelly of the spacer community and refused to sell his creations to smugglers, bounty hunter-assassins, or any of the other well-heeled but morally questionable figures who plied the distant spacelanes then as now. He once remarked that it was a point of pride with him that he had never built a ship that could carry any appreciable amount of cargo.

Instead, Muramune's creations were bought by elite couriers, diplomatic services, and more than one royal court around the galaxy. Salusia's House Arconian and the elected monarchy of the Outer Rim planet Naboo were both among his customers. A much-repeated legend of the time claimed that Maximilien Largo, the virtually all-powerful Master of GENOM Corporation, approached Muramune in 2290, when that corporation was consolidating its galactic hegemony in the wake of the Wedge Defense Force's fall, and tried to commission a personal yacht from him - to be turned down flat. It's said Muramune survived the encounter because, humiliated though he was by the outright snub, even Largo could not bring himself to order harm to such an artist.

Whether that story is true or not, Muramune certainly survived 2290. He cut off all contact between the outside galaxy and his hidden workshop in 2322, on his 120th birthday, and was never seen nor heard from again. Eventually his name was forgotten by all but a handful of diehard enthusiasts and spaceship historians.

Which is why few people noticed when, 23 years later, a brand-new Muramune suddenly appeared on the galactic starship registry rolls. When someone finally did spot the new record, those few remaining who knew what it implied assumed that it was some sort of hoax - some new shipwright passing off his work as that of the master. One of these people sought out the newly registered hull, which went under the name of Phoenix Queen, to demand of her captain-of-record an explanation.

That captain, a young woman from Karafuto named Sarah Inazuma, provided authentication of the ship's provenance in the form of certain deep encodings in her FTL ROM clusters, along with various identifying flourishes characteristic of the master's work. She declined, however, to explain where she had acquired the vessel, nor why such a long time had passed between Muramune's disappearance and the Phoenix Queen's arrival on the scene. She deflected all inquiries politely but very firmly, and subsequent investigations turned up nothing.

Inazuma - sometimes alone, sometimes with a small crew of hand-picked associates - would go on to have a long and storied career as an independent spacer, working as a courier, surveyor, scout, and occasional privateer from 2345 to 2390, when - much like her ship's legendary creator - she abruptly and mysteriously retired. Command of the Phoenix Queen passed to her daughter, also called Sarah, who continues to operate the vessel in much the same manner.

ANALYSIS

The Phoenix Queen is the last, and by many estimations the finest, creation of one of the greatest small-ship builders of the 23rd century. Since she was always intended to be unique, she is the fullest expression of the small-shipwright's art. All of the technologies incorporated into her fabric were either scratch-built by a master craftsman from the finest available materials, or represented the very highest state of the art that could be sourced at the time, customized and optimized by the same master.

The result is a vessel that, six decades after her launching, is still one of the most capable starships in her class, and still seems advanced - even futuristic - to modern eyes. Her sublight drives are more powerful than those found in many mass-production starships twice her size, and she's capable of warp speeds which are said to rival those of the International Police Organization's cutting-edge Next Generation Warship classes. Even her secondary FTL system, despite being a mere backup, has a lower elapsed-time rating than the primary hyperdrives fitted to modern light freighters, and despite her corvette size, she's more maneuverable than many heavy starfighters.

This speed and agility hasn't come at an appreciable cost in fragility, either. The exact composition of the Phoenix Queen's armor plating is unknown - Muramune was famously cagey about such things - but during the vessel's service under contract to the Wedge Defense Force in the 2388-2390 Corporate War and its aftermath, it was seen to withstand punishment that would have sent many comparably-sized executive transports to the scrapyard. His custom-built deflector shield generators have always been legendary for their power and reliability, and the Queen's Cochrane drive core is easily able to compensate for their equally legendary thirst for energy.

The Phoenix Queen mounts relatively few weapons. Part of her design brief was that her armed status, while not a secret, should be as discreet as possible, and bristling with unconcealed hardpoints is not compatible with that goal. The weapons with which she is equipped, though, are both surprisingly potent and exceptionally accurate. The Captains Inazuma, it seems, have both placed a high premium on skilled gunnery to compensate for a relatively low volume of firepower; in the right hands, the Queen's burst-firing phaser batteries and retractable flex-mounted blasters are capable of delivering a shattering pinpoint blow to enemies that, on paper, should outclass the ship entirely.

Like all Muramune designs, the Phoenix Queen is designed so that she can be operated by a single person if necessary, but her command and control systems are configured for maximum combat efficiency with a crew of five: pilot/commander, copilot/weapons officer, engineer/navigator, and two gunners for the blaster batteries. Over the decades, the ship's crew complement has varied considerably. At times in their careers, both Captains Inazuma have worked alone, and at others, have employed crews of up to six or seven.

Aside from her combat capabilities and interstellar speed, the Queen is equipped with a powerful sensor package intended to support the ship's true primary mission, that of a survey and scout vessel. Her brief and intermittent tenures as a hired warship have been secondary to this occupation, which she has performed under contract to the Federation Celestial Survey Bureau and Salusia's Royal Astrographic Society as well as numerous smaller local system governments over the years.

Advanced, powerful, discreetly glamorous, and with a crew space built as much for comfort and aesthetic appeal as for practical considerations, the Phoenix Queen arguably remains the finest vessel of her kind today, 61 years after she was launched. Absolutely no expense or time was spared in making this vessel the best she could be, and that huge investment has shown its worth in the ship's longevity, utility, and elegance. Some have theorized that Muramune fully intended Platform Q9 to be his last creation from the beginning of the project, and that this knowledge spurred him to lavish even more care and resources on the vessel than any of the 612 other known products of his hidden workshop (none of which can be said to have been skimped on in those regards) - making the Phoenix Queen the last will and testament not only of a man, but also of a crafting movement that more or less died with him.

CRITICISM

Most of the Phoenix Queen's perceived drawbacks stem from the same characteristics that provide her strengths: her custom construction, scratch-built systems, and the beyond-bleeding-edge hardware that made her so far ahead of her time that she's still ahead today. With so many custom-made systems crammed so tightly into her nonstandard spaceframe, she would be an absolute nightmare for any normal shipyard or deep-space station to service or repair. Similarly, no amount of regular engineering training could ever prepare anyone to serve as flight engineer aboard the Queen; anyone Captain Inazuma takes on for that job will have to be extensively and expensively trained by hand before he or she would be competent to undertake the job. Even an out-of-the-box standard astromech droid would be flummoxed by a lot of what's going on inside that sleek scarlet hull.

As such, it has long been theorized in some circles that the Inazuma family has a secret retreat somewhere - possibly even the same place in which the Phoenix Queen was originally built - where the ship is sure to receive the highly specialized attention she requires when major maintenance and repairs are needed. Dependence on a single fixed base of operations is also a significant liability, albeit one more organizational than technological, and so cannot be discounted for purposes of this analysis.

Similarly, although neither Captain Inazuma has ever cared to share her operational balance sheets with the press or public, the rates they customarily charge give some corroboration to the logical idea that such an advanced, highly specialized vessel must be expensive to operate as well as repair. She was built with cost no object, and must be maintained, fueled, and fixed in similar fashion - to the point where some analysts think even the Inazumas' high fees cannot possibly cover the expense of operating the ship. How they compensate for this, if it's true, is unknown. Perhaps their theoretical secret headquarters includes a theoretical secret dilithium mine.

Beyond those concerns, the Phoenix Queen's only significant drawback is her dependence on accurate gunnery and high burst damage to make up for her lack of sustained firepower. In a fight, she cannot afford to be drawn into a protracted slugging match; that is a type of battle at which she is not configured to succeed. Fortunately, her captains recognize that and assiduously avoid such engagements.

DISPOSITION

The Phoenix Queen remains active today under the command of the second Captain Sarah Inazuma. As of this writing, she is under contract to the FCSB to conduct a verification survey of the Attican Traverse.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen ejheckathorn Feb-14-14 1
     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Droken Feb-14-14 2
  RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen mdg1 Feb-15-14 3
     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Gryphonadmin Feb-17-14 7
         RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen mdg1 Feb-18-14 9
             RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Zemyla Mar-11-14 10
  RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen The Traitor Feb-15-14 4
     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Gryphonadmin Feb-15-14 5
         RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen The Traitor Feb-16-14 6
  A Note: Gryphonadmin Feb-17-14 8
  RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Gryphonadmin Mar-19-14 11
     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen eriktown Mar-19-14 12
         RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Gryphonadmin Mar-19-14 13
             RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen BZArcher Mar-19-14 14
                 RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Gryphonadmin Mar-19-14 15
                     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen BZArcher Mar-19-14 16
                     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Pasha Mar-19-14 17
                         RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Gryphonadmin Mar-19-14 18
                             RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Pasha Mar-19-14 20
                                 RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Gryphonadmin Mar-20-14 21
                                     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen BobSchroeck Mar-20-14 24
                     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Senji Mar-19-14 19
                     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen CdrMike Mar-20-14 22
                     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen twipper Mar-20-14 25
         RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen BobSchroeck Mar-20-14 23
     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen laudre Mar-20-14 26
     RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen MuninsFire Mar-20-14 27
  RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen Offsides May-23-14 28
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ejheckathorn
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1. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   Very interesting...

...especially the date on the file, which would seem to indicate that Azula and company are conducting their survey of the Traverse right around the same time that Shepard's Privateers (Mark II) are chasing Collectors around that part of space.

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2. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   Ooohh...good -eyes-. I didn't even catch the date bit (sort of distracted reading through the first time). That will be something to see indeed if there's a meeting between Shepard's Privateers and Azula's crew.

-Droken

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3. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   You know, given her own abilities, I can't help but wonder if the Red Phoenix is ALSO capable of the Kagaku Ninpo: Hinotori

Mario


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7. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >You know, given her own abilities, I can't help but wonder if the
>Red Phoenix is ALSO capable of the Kagaku Ninpo:
>Hinotori

Nnnnno. I'm not 100% sure a sufficiently-pissed-off Avatar could do that. Not and get the ship back again at the end, anyway.

--G.
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9. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   I was actually thinking of whatever technological version Nambu came up with, but your point is valid.

And now, for no particular reason, I'm picturing Toph converting an F-18 to Battroid mode.

"It's a Veritech?"
"It is now."

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10. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >I was actually thinking of whatever technological version Nambu came
>up with, but your point is valid.
>
>And now, for no particular reason, I'm picturing Toph converting an
>F-18 to Battroid mode.
>
>"It's a Veritech?"
>"It is now."

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4. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   Y'know, I now have to wonder about the concept of the coachbuilder in UF. I'd always assumed that there'd be very specialist (not to mention expensive as hell) starship makers in UF that worked with companies to make limited-run versions of their main stock, but this article seems to contradict that. If anyone could clear it up, that'd be grand, ta. =]

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5. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   LAST EDITED ON Feb-15-14 AT 01:14 PM (EST)
 
>I'd always assumed that there'd be very specialist (not to mention
>expensive as hell) starship makers in UF that worked with
>companies to make limited-run versions of their main stock, but this
>article seems to contradict that.

There are almost certainly such organizations, but they're different from the now-largely-extinct "craft" movement mentioned here. That was largely a phenomenon of the 2200s. Those guys - people like Muramune - built almost everything themselves apart from the really big-ticket items like antimatter reactors (or, well, presumably with a lot of automation, not actually by hand), they didn't start with an existing mass-produced starship.

It's kind of the difference between an organization that makes small-batch automobiles from the ground up, incorporating only a few production components like engines (Ascari, say), and one that does balls-out high-performance modifications of cars somebody else built (e.g. Brabus). The latter scene is alive and well in the 25th century. The former has, alas, largely died out.

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6. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   The key word there is probably "largely". I think that it'd be rather endemic to the Crown Colonies; a small, loose confederation of slightly odd people who live in lean-tos on various industrial estates around CC space and build little runabouts from scratch that can outspeed an asteroid racer, or even a minicab. Consider Noble, some men from Leicester who build no-frills sports cars from pig-iron and sweat and nicked the engines for them from a Volvo 4x4 that weighs about as much as, well, Sweden. That's the sort of thing I can see being made in the 25th century; less Zagato, more Shed Industries.

Actually, that's a brilliant name for a very British technology firm. Possibly one endorsed by an android version of Fred Dibnah. You're more than welcome to it, of course. =]

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

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8. "A Note:"
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   Adam Kopala drew the blueprint as a follow-on to the original Phoenix Queen illo. I'm very pleased with his work, and it's probably not the last time he'll be called upon to depict a UF-universe starship. I added the title block and all the text.

Of possible note: apart from the signatures and dates (Adam's is in Draftsman, which seemed appropriate, and I forget the name of the font Muramune's is in) and the Chinese characters (it says Dìqiú, if you couldn't guess), I used the Authentic Blueprint Fonts that come as part of the install of Siemens Solid Edge ST6, the CAD/solid modeling software we use in the School of Engineering Technology at the University of Maine. The narrower font that most of the title block is in is Solid Edge ISO, while the large print above it is in Solid Edge ANSI. This is a stylebook foul I would be docked points for in an SET CAD/M class, but I thought it looked best aesthetically.

It's Revision G because there were six preliminary images before the final version of the original color Phoenix Queen illo arrived. I may put together an "evolution of" gallery page/post for that, like the old one for the design of the One-Hit Wonder. The drawing size is a made-up Future Size, but someone more interested in these matters than I am could work out how large the sheet would be based on the Queen's dimensions and the scale provided. (At that scale, the full-size drawing would be such that the side and top views of the ship would be about two feet long, so, a pretty hefty print.)

The geometry of the title block is based on the one I had to design for submitting my coursework drawings in MET 121 and MET 126, the two introductory-level Mechanical Engineering Technology classes in which Solid Edge is used (including the "tolerances unless otherwise stated" block, which has only had "INCHES" replaced with "STANDARD UNITS").

I am, as you may have guessed, a bit of a blueprint nerd.

--G.
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11. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   So a while back, as you see upthread, I commissioned Adam Kopala to design and illustrate the Phoenix Queen based on my specifications. As part of his process, he created a 3D model of the ship's basic shape, and it occurred to me as the project was wrapping up that, if his software could export that in the right format, I might be able to do an interesting side project with it. So I asked him to try it, and he succeeded.

One of the results arrived on my doorstep today:

I got this one from shapeways.com; took a couple of weeks and wasn't cheap by not-very-big-plastic-object standards, but, I mean, come on! It's a toy version of a starship I created! How awesome is that? The ten-year-old who still lives inside me is in transports of delight.

If you're feeling covetous, don't despair! The EPU Model Shop at Shapeways is here to help. Like I say, they're not cheap, but I've got markup set to zero; you'll get yours for the same price I paid for mine.

I'm also experimenting with other uses for the model file. We have a MakerBot Replicator 2X at the Machine Tool Lab at school that I'm hoping to score some time on next week, after all the official printing for this weekend's Engineering Expo is over with. The guy who's operating it this semester as an independent study project has already put it through MakerWare (the software that operates MakerBot printers) and assures me that it will print just fine, though a little smaller than the Shapeways version.

Exciting!

--G.
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12. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   Woah, that's awesome! Any chance of more pictures?

Shapeways is awesome. My wife uses them a lot to fab custom lab equipment.


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13. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >Woah, that's awesome! Any chance of more pictures?

Not right now - I've boxed it back up again, as I'm sending it away to be painted. When it comes back, though, there will be many pictures, more carefully taken under better light. (There's not much more to see at the moment, just the surface detail left by the 3D printing process.)

--G.
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14. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   I was about to ask "Oh, are you going to paint it?"

This is so awesome!

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15. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >I was about to ask "Oh, are you going to paint it?"

Not myself, no. That would... probably not end well. I'm commissioning a proper model/toy customizer to do it for me.

>This is so awesome!

I agree! I'm also still looking forward to experimenting with the school Replicator 2X when I get the opportunity. It's funny, I went in Monday and said to my boss, the machine tool lab director, "I was thinking over break, we do a lot with subtractive manufacturing in the program here, we should get a 3D printer and look at additive too," and he said, "We have one! AJ [one of his other TAs] is doing an independent study project with it." So when my shift was over I beelined it to AJ's office and lo, there it was. We got to shooting the shit about the promise and the hassles of 3D printing; he started fiddling with his laptop while we were talking, and completely by coincidence, as I started to tell him that I'd gotten interested in it because I discovered this cool website a few weeks ago, he went to Tested to see what was new there. :)

We messed around some with the Phoenix Queen model on Monday, as I noted in my original post, and hopefully there'll be some time next week to try printing that version too. The Shapeways one is the one I'm sending to be painted, though.

I find 3D printing in general an exciting technology, now that it's getting to the maturity level where it actually does interesting and useful things and doesn't cost an absolute fortune. I think it's right on the cusp of becoming ubiquitous, and that's kind of my favorite stage in a technology's lifespan - mature enough that it's usable without the unending screwing around required in the hobbyist phase, young enough that it still has that oh-holy-shit edge. Not that I expect 3D printing, in particular, is ever quite going to lose that for me. I mean, a desktop 3D printer is a toy that makes other toys, which is like the living dream of everything six-year-old me ever wanted and 40-year-old me still pretty much does. I'd get my own Replicator 2X right now if I had the three grand kicking around.

Anyway, there may be other things that turn up in the EPU Shapeways store eventually, contingent on a) me managing to source 3D models and b) there actually being more than one 3D-printable thing in the UF universe that isn't a total, blatant IP violation. :)

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16. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   A One-Hit-Wonder model might be really fun.

I feel the same way about 3D Printing. It's freaking magic and I love it. I just wish I could afford it all.

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17. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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>Anyway, there may be other things that turn up in the EPU Shapeways
>store eventually, contingent on a) me managing to source 3D models and
>b) there actually being more than one 3D-printable thing in the UF
>universe that isn't a total, blatant IP violation. :)

I thought the One Hit Wonder was an original creation?

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18. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >>Anyway, there may be other things that turn up in the EPU Shapeways
>>store eventually, contingent on a) me managing to source 3D models and
>>b) there actually being more than one 3D-printable thing in the UF
>>universe that isn't a total, blatant IP violation. :)
>
>I thought the One Hit Wonder was an original creation?

Our TWO. Chief weapons...

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Technically it's a mash-up of the Northrop YB-49 and the Millennium Falcon, but yeah, probably in the clear there. :)
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20. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >>>Anyway, there may be other things that turn up in the EPU Shapeways
>>>store eventually, contingent on a) me managing to source 3D models and
>>>b) there actually being more than one 3D-printable thing in the UF
>>>universe that isn't a total, blatant IP violation. :)
>>
>>I thought the One Hit Wonder was an original creation?
>
>Our TWO. Chief weapons...


Speaking of which, I know there are images in the Imagery section of the SOS page, but is Mr Crouch still around? I'd love to get the original models so that we can try and turn them into physical models.

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21. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >Speaking of which, I know there are images in the Imagery section of
>the SOS page, but is Mr Crouch still around? I'd love to get the
>original models so that we can try and turn them into physical models.

Well, the check-who's-on page says his account still exists (username JFerio) and his last activity was at 9:42 PM EDT this evening, so I'm guessing the answer is yes. Whether the source files for those models still exist 12(!!) years later, and whether they can be exported to .obj or .stl if they do, are other matters entirely. :)

Worst came to worst, I expect Adam could re-create the ship as a new model based on the images - for a price, of course. I've been kicking around what UF ship to commission from him next, actually, and asking him for his take on the Wonder was one of the candidates. Others include a more fully realized image of Daggerdisc; a full rendering of the Salusian Barghest-class destroyer I BPGD'd a while back (of which only that one anonymous line drawing from Yamato exists); and asking him to just go nuts with an entirely original design for the Gamilon K'tayyl-class destroyer, which isn't based on anything from source fiction and has never really had a firm design in my head anyway.

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24. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >>Speaking of which, I know there are images in the Imagery section of
>>the SOS page, but is Mr Crouch still around?
>Well, the check-who's-on page says his account still exists (username
>JFerio) and his last activity was at 9:42 PM EDT this evening, so I'm
>guessing the answer is yes.

If for some reason he doesn't respond to hails here, he has an account over on my forums, and I can run up a flag there just as a backup.

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19. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >I find 3D printing in general an exciting technology, now that it's
>getting to the maturity level where it actually does interesting and
>useful things and doesn't cost an absolute fortune. I think it's
>right on the cusp of becoming ubiquitous, and that's kind of my
>favorite stage in a technology's lifespan - mature enough that it's
>usable without the unending screwing around required in the hobbyist
>phase, young enough that it still has that oh-holy-shit edge. Not
>that I expect 3D printing, in particular, is ever quite going to lose
>that for me. I mean, a desktop 3D printer is a toy that makes
>other toys
, which is like the living dream of everything
>six-year-old me ever wanted and 40-year-old me still pretty much does.
> I'd get my own Replicator 2X right now if I had the three grand
>kicking around.

A friend who is a 3D printer hobbyest (or at least a bit so) notes that 3D printing is one of those enabling technologies -- not only do many small problems start to look like problems for 3D printing, but things you hadn't even realised were problems yet do.


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22. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >I find 3D printing in general an exciting technology, now that it's
>getting to the maturity level where it actually does interesting and
>useful things and doesn't cost an absolute fortune. I think it's
>right on the cusp of becoming ubiquitous, and that's kind of my
>favorite stage in a technology's lifespan - mature enough that it's
>usable without the unending screwing around required in the hobbyist
>phase, young enough that it still has that oh-holy-shit edge. Not
>that I expect 3D printing, in particular, is ever quite going to lose
>that for me. I mean, a desktop 3D printer is a toy that makes
>other toys
, which is like the living dream of everything
>six-year-old me ever wanted and 40-year-old me still pretty much does.
> I'd get my own Replicator 2X right now if I had the three grand
>kicking around.

I actually found myself thinking the other night that, with all the talk about "printing" meat and other foods and the potential expansions on 3D printing possible as the technology improves (clothing, electronics, etc), that this might be as close as we get to the replicators of Star Trek. Don't misunderstand, I don't expect that we're gonna get "Tea, Earl Grey, Hot" anytime soon, but there's still that potential for the technology to be taken in directions that would mimic the ability to create items or food on-demand. The auto-tailor, like we've seen in UF a few times, is actually a pretty good example of the direction I expect we might see 3D printers going in coming years or decades.

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25. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   Useful indeed, even for that canal house you always wanted in Amsterdam.

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23. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >Woah, that's awesome! Any chance of more pictures?

Pictures, hell. Any chance of more models?

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26. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >It's a toy version of a starship I created! How awesome is
>that?
The ten-year-old who still lives inside me is in transports
>of delight.

Oh, I am so with you there -- not that I've had this specific experience, but it would be awesome beyond belief to have one of the starship designs in my head actually come into physical form. And in a way that would allow me to not have treat it as if it were made of spun glass.


"Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately, it also brought mortis."
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There's always LEGO, but a sufficient brick supply to achieve satisfactory fidelity would probably cost me more than even commissioning a professional 3D artist and having Shapeways print it off. At least I can bribe my better half into painting it for me, should this happen.


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27. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   That is downright awesome, and now my temptation to get a 3d printer of some variety is that much more tempting....

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28. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   I just finished rereading the DA compilation, and notices that the Hyperdrive rating on this is just 1.5, yet the text claims that it's quite good. I would have thought that since a rating of 1 was "baseline", and lower is better, that it would also have had a rating under 1. Am I missing something, or is this a misprint on your end (perhaps you wanted 0.66, i.e. 1.5x faster than baseline)?

I also noticed a couple typos in the DA stories, which if I can find them again I'll post separately in the appropriate thread.

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29. "RE: BPGD: Phoenix Queen"
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   >I just finished rereading the DA compilation, and notices that the
>Hyperdrive rating on this is just 1.5, yet the text claims that it's
>quite good. I would have thought that since a rating of 1 was
>"baseline", and lower is better, that it would also have had a rating
>under 1. Am I missing something, or is this a misprint on your end
>(perhaps you wanted 0.66, i.e. 1.5x faster than baseline)?

It is quite good, but it's a matter of context. What the file says is:

"Even her secondary FTL system, despite being a mere backup, has a lower elapsed-time rating than the primary hyperdrives fitted to modern light freighters."

The key thing to keep in mind here is that freighters, despite what you may have been conditioned to expect by the likes of the Millennium Falcon? Are sllllloooooowwwww. Factor-3 hyperdrives are not uncommon in the cargo haulage industry, and the average is somewhere a bit north of 2. In that context, 1.5 is pretty damn fast, particularly for a system that isn't even the ship's primary FTL drive.

>I also noticed a couple typos in the DA stories, which if I can find
>them again I'll post separately in the appropriate thread.

Thanks. Alternately, you could PM them, since everyone else doesn't really need to know where they were. :)

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