A couple - she appears in the BPRD story The Curse of the Big Train and is the protagonist of last Halloween's Mini-Story two-parter, The Other Side.

--G.
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Ah, yes, now I remember. Thank you.

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.

Fight the scourge of Machine Empathy, citizen!

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"Yeah, I'm definitely going to hell/But I'll have all the best stories to tell" -- Frank Turner, The Ballad of Me and My Friends

Have a nice daycycle. Not having a nice daycycle is punishable by immediate execution.

The problem is, Steve Rogers and Yuri Daniels are both deputy chief department heads, and I can never remember which one is Tactical and which is CID. It may in fact have changed at some point during the first decade of the 2400s.

As for the Bureau, CID would seem like the logical place for it in the tree, but on the other hand, most of the D in BPRD does seem to be more about the shooty and the punchy than about investigation, and there's not really anything "criminal" in a conventional sense about most of what it looks into. I'd forgotten I'd said one way or another in an earlier file, and when I flipped that mental coin this time it came up Tac Div.

So, basically, once again you've caught me not having a Ph.D at this stuff. :)

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Given the highly flexible nature and the personality-driven (rather than institutional-driven) nature of the IPO's chain of command, it may in fact be the case that both Yuri AND Steve are simultaneously the head(s) of TacDic and CID. Assuming that such an oddball arrangement worked I can see your counterpart simply shrugging and signing off on it.

>As for the Bureau, CID would seem like the logical place for it in the
>tree, but on the other hand, most of the D in BPRD does seem to be
>more about the shooty and the punchy than about investigation,

True. For me, the outside observer, it seems like the BPRD is mostly about pushing back the frontiers of human knowledge and meeting new and awesome things from previously unplumbed depths of the universe. It is only with reluctance that they decide that a great many of those things need to be buried at the crossroads after midnight. That for me would place them firmly in the "investigative" side of things. I see TacDiv as more of the place you put outfits whose entire reason for existing is to kick in the door and chop off some tentacles when the word comes down.

>and
>there's not really anything "criminal" in a conventional sense about
>most of what it looks into.

There's not? I mean, looking at the last few BPRD mini-stories, you've got a fair amount of petty larceny, assault, some breaking and entering, multiple counts of what is probably illegal immigration and squatting...

Also, one imagines Zeta Cygni has laws in place to deal with the occult. In a universe where Hell is a real place you can go to and magic has a verifiable existence, you'd think that, for example, someone would have to issue you a license if you wanted to summon demons on a freelance basis. You know, a piece of paper that says the state certifies you know how to draw a summoning circle and you're unlikely to get yourself possessed by something that wants to punch your soul out of your body and use it to make soup with.

>
>So, basically, once again you've caught me not having a Ph.D at
>this stuff. :)

I would be very interested in observing that dissertation defense. :)

-Merc
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To an extent, yes. For instance, we've seen a few times that there are citizenship provisions for certain classes of sapient undead. It's not illegal to be a vampire qua being-a-vampire in New Avalon, for instance. Assault, yes, unauthorized exsanguination, mind control, murder, that crap's illegal, but that's illegal for everybody. Those jagoffs who took after Marcy in Night of the Kissogram! would've found themselves explaining their shit to the NAPD tout de suite. You can't just rock up in your blacked-out minivan and jack up some random singer outside Coffee Kingdom just 'cause she happens to be a half-demonic creature of darkness. They've got rights, goddammit. We have a thing called due process in this town. :)

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"Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?"

"You're all fuckin' undead symps in this city, is why. They can't be trusted, you know. Y'all think they're your friends, but they're NOT. One day you're gonna find out they've, like, laid eggs in your sun and turned it into an anti-sun and then it's nothing but blood dolls from hell to breakfast, demon mayors, three-headed dogs and cats living together..."

"No, sir. Your window tint. That degree of tinting is illegal in this jurisdiction."

"... oh."

"Sir, I'm going to need you to step out of the vehicle."

-Merc
Keep Rat

Why are they even allowed to operate in New Avalon? Or are they an illegal vigilante operation that NAPD is trying to stamp out?

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.

They're not, that's what I was getting at. The Worcester PD was nowhere to be seen in Kissogram!, possibly because they had been instructed to stay out of the "professionals'" way. Their counterparts in New Avalon, on the other hand, would have taken a marked and unfriendly interest in an unprovoked, organized group assault on one of the city's undead citizens.

--G.
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If I recall correctly, that's the Creature's canonical name. It just never got used anywhere but the novel, and not all that much there, either.

-- Bob
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It's not, actually. Frankenstein's monster doesn't have a truly canonical name, but at one point during the novel he refers to himself while speaking to Dr. Frankenstein as "the Adam of your creation." But in that context (and I believe Shelley was explicit about this) he's using Adam as a metaphor, not claiming it as his actual name.

Hence my complimenting Ben for doing his monster research. Frankenstein's monster has generally come to be known as Frankenstein himself. A lot of people know that and have in turn assigned it various other names in various other contexts and derivative works; the one Ben has chosen reflects familiarity with the source materiel or that he took at the least the minimal amount of time to look into things. Many who decide they want to work with the classic romantic monsters (your Frankensteins, Draculas, wolfmen, your Mr. Hyde's) do not bother. But Ben goes the extra mile.

(Also, I like saying "monster research." It makes it sound like there's, I dunno, some sort of legitimate scholarly program out there you can consult on the matter. "And what do you do, sir?" "Monster research. My thesis was on wolfmen, you know.")

-Merc
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"And Remember! Google is your Friend!!"

Note: Not 100% certain this is necessarily a bad thing.

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Ah. No doubt that's what I'm recalling. I can count the time since I last read Frankenstein in decades, so that's my excuse for the error. <grin>

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.

... uh, well, she's a reference to Greek mythology, but apart from that, I got nothin' for you. (Except I think I did see a drawing of Medusa rockin' the sexy librarian glasses one time on the interwebs. That probably informed Eury's design as much as anything. You can tell them apart easily, though. Eury's the skinny one with the red snakes. :)

--G.
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And I can just imagine them being rather annoyed at being put up in a bun, which they express by biting the hairsticks every chance they get...

-- Bob
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My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite.

"Oh, they're just hungry."

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-Pasha

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"Yeah, I'm definitely going to hell/But I'll have all the best stories to tell" -- Frank Turner, The Ballad of Me and My Friends

"Hey, Eury, didja get a perm?" "No. They got into the Chief's Starbucks. Again."

I did kind of figure that the Management hadn't gotten into FSN, given the absence of hints of other characters therefrom, but that version of Medusa is very Sexy Librarian when she's in civvy mode, so I felt like I had to ask.

Edit: Mrrrrgh. Cannot has inlined link to image? Silly forum. Let's try just adding it below, instead.

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"V, did you do something foolish?"

"Yes, and it was glorious."

Well, you can, but you have to trick DCF into ignoring it by attaching a fake CGI call to the end ("?x" or the like after the filename extension). Otherwise it'll spot the ".jpg" (or whatever) and automatically inline the image instead of obeying the "link:" tag.

[link:i31.photobucket.com/albums/c386/valles_uf/f4b61a771dc7516ba670547507e187b8.jpg?x|Like this.]

(There's another trick to get it to display that instead of interpreting it - there are special amper symbols to make shown square brackets instead of delimiting markup with them.)

See, this is one of the several reasons why I've never seriously looked into replacing this crocky old forum. You keep something around for 12 years, you learn some of its tricks... :)

--G.
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Probably not - this is UF, where canon hairdos can be ignored on the grounds of being goofy-looking, and if that isn't a goofy 'do, I don't know what is.

Peter Eng
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Insert humorous comment here.

Only on very special occasions.

--G.
["Uh-oh. Must be their anniversary. Viv's rockin' the mad science beehive."
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