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"The Bureaucracy"
 
   I had my disability determination hearing today. As I was leaving, I was told that I should expect a ruling within... six months.

Everyone I've told about that in person today has responded, "What the fuck?!" but in the moment all I said was, "... oh."

For the record, I originally applied in January.

Of 2022.

--G.
welp, I guess it's time to sell my remaining possessions
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: The Bureaucracy CdrMike Apr-26-24 1
  RE: The Bureaucracy Nova Floresca Apr-26-24 2
     RE: The Bureaucracy Gryphonadmin Apr-27-24 3
         RE: The Bureaucracy Nova Floresca Apr-27-24 4
         RE: The Bureaucracy McFortner Apr-30-24 7
             RE: The Bureaucracy The Traitor Apr-30-24 8
             RE: The Bureaucracy Peter Eng May-01-24 9
                 RE: The Bureaucracy Mephronmoderator May-06-24 11
             RE: The Bureaucracy Bushido May-05-24 10
                 RE: The Bureaucracy Mephronmoderator May-06-24 12
  RE: The Bureaucracy Sofaspud Apr-29-24 5
  RE: The Bureaucracy McFortner Apr-29-24 6

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CdrMike
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905 posts		 Apr-26-24, 03:48 AM (EDT)
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1. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
In response to message #0
 
   "I can feel the gears of bureaucracy grinding me up already..."

"Like grist in the mill, honey. Good luck."

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Nova Floresca
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580 posts		 Apr-26-24, 11:48 AM (EDT)
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2. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   On the one hand, I have some sympathy for the workings of the bureaucrats as my wife works in an office doing determination for similar governmental assistance things, and the people running the show continually cut staffing to the bone, which is why they're always behind.

On the other hand, the worst they've ever been is 6 months behind, at which point management went "all hands on deck, everybody's on overtime until you un-fuck this mess!", so it would be nice if Maine would do the same.

Either way, a major gut-punch to hear that, and my condolences you're going through it.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


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Gryphonadmin
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3. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   >On the other hand, the worst they've ever been is 6 months behind, at
>which point management went "all hands on deck, everybody's on
>overtime until you un-fuck this mess!", so it would be nice if Maine
>would do the same.

Just as a note, this isn't a Maine thing, it's a federal government thing; and far from unfucking it, there are those in the halls of power who seem perpetually hellbent on making it worse. They're scared to death that if they're not constantly vigilant, they might accidentally help somebody. The very idea keeps them awake at night.

--G.
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Nova Floresca
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4. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   I'm definitely aware that it's problem from the federal level on down, I just didn't want to broach the Dreaded P-Word first. That being said, I live in the Land of Corn and Assholes (specifically, Iowa), and our governor is on the "mortal fear of helping people" spectrum, which is why I was surprised that Maine wouldn't even make the token effort to clean things up when our villains were willing to do so.

Also, I seem to really like making 1-sentence paragraphs.
"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


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McFortner
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7. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   >Just as a note, this isn't a Maine thing, it's a federal government
>thing; and far from unfucking it, there are those in the halls of
>power who seem perpetually hellbent on making it worse. They're
>scared to death that if they're not constantly vigilant, they
>might accidentally help somebody. The very idea keeps them awake at
>night.

I don't think it's that, but they are concerned about how often the government has been burned by those claiming disabilities that don't have one fleecing the government. That has happened enough times that they see bad agents behind every claim and are over reacting a bit and have swung the opposite by being too difficult to work with. All in the hope that it eliminates all fraudulent claims.

Michael C. Fortner
"Maxim 37: There is no such thing as "overkill".
There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".


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The Traitor
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8. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   Fun fact: this is entirely false. "Fraudulent" disability claims pale into insignificance compared to the amount of people entitled to claim who elect not to for various reasons. It is a convenient narrative peddled to justify slashing benefits to vulnerable people. See also: "welfare queens".

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Peter Eng
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9. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   >they are concerned about how often the
>government has been burned by those claiming disabilities that don't
>have one fleecing the government.
>

If they were really concerned about people taking money from the government that didn't deserve it, they wouldn't be concerned about the penny-ante grifters, they'd look at the ones taking large bites.

Peter Eng
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11. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   >If they were really concerned about people taking money from the
>government that didn't deserve it, they wouldn't be concerned about
>the penny-ante grifters, they'd look at the ones taking large bites.

Like, say, a bouncy one?

they go 'boeing, boeing'

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Bushido
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10. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   Strictly going by the amount of money lost by the government, billionaires cheating on their taxes (or simply exploiting 'legal' loopholes they lobbied their political buddies to write into law) is a far larger issue than a few people exploiting a system designed to do the bare minimum to keep a person on their feet.

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Order 12: "Try to avoid
freaking the mundanes."


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Mephronmoderator
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12. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   >Strictly going by the amount of money lost by the government,
>billionaires cheating on their taxes (or simply exploiting 'legal'
>loopholes they lobbied their political buddies to write into law) is a
>far larger issue than a few people exploiting a system designed to do
>the bare minimum to keep a person on their feet.

I feel this is the reason that A Particular Political Party Whose Name I Will Not Mention wants to continue gutting the IRS to make sure that they lack the personnel to audit the megarich and make them pay up.

In other notes if anyone has a Death Note I would like to meet up and do some writing, thank you.


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Sofaspud
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5. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   It took my wife seven years, start to finish, to finally get disability approved. I don't say this in some competitive sense, I just mean that I feel your pain.

If you haven't already found one, there are disability lawyers who specialize in cutting through the BS. We engaged one and it sped things up considerably. We didn't get the lawyer until somewhere around year 5, which in hindsight was far too long for us to try to go it alone.

Part of my wife's problem was that what she suffers from is fairly rare and often misdiagnosed, and since even the quote-unquote normal ailments get the automatic denial-until-you-appeaase-us-by-appealing-repeatedly treatment, ones that are less common get sent to the special hell.

--sofaspud
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6. "RE: The Bureaucracy"
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   As somebody on a VA disability, I feel your pain. And I can't help but think of this line, as read by Leonard Nimoy in Civilization 4.

"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."

(Originally by Oscar Wilde)

Hang in there and get a good lawyer is all I can recommend. It's what I had to do with SSDI. :^/

Michael C. Fortner
"Maxim 37: There is no such thing as "overkill".
There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".


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