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Babylon Project Galactic Database Text Data Extraction Search: International Police Personnel Files Personnel Data: TYLER, Rose SEARCH COMPLETE: AUGUST 4, 2410Full name: Rosalind Franklin Tyler Species: Human (but see below) Date of birth: April 27, 2387 Place of birth: Powell, Coalhill Crown Colony, Vega sector Height: 5'4" Weight: 120 lbs. Eyes: Hazel Hair: Brown (sometimes blonde) Adjusted Wolfe-DeKok Intelligence Index: 178 Date of IPO Induction: May 12, 2410 Division of service: Special Assignment 0 (Weapon Zero) Grade: Scientific consultant Other special qualifications/certifications: - MBChB, New Albion Institute of Science School of Medicine - BA, Pre-Contact Exo-Literature, New Albion University - BS, Physics, New Albion Institute of Science - MS, Hyperphysics, New Albion Institute of Science - PhD, Overtechnology and Hyperscience, New Albion Institute of Science - TD, Prydon Chapter Academy of Time - Time and Relative Dimension in Space Operator - Starship master's certificate, United Kingdom of Zeta Cygni and the Rimward Territories - Galactic Police Organisation close-quarter self-defense badge - Galactic Police Organisation marksman badge Other grades/titles: - Stranger Knight of the Order of Zeta Cygni (102/G 2408) - Lady Companion of the Order of the Thistle (100/W 1879) - Special Agent - Scientist, GPO Science Patrol - Professor, Hyperscience Faculty, New Albion Institute of Science - Bronze medal, Jericho Street Junior School Under-7 Gymnastics Team Description: Rose Tyler is an attractive human woman of about thirty (her actual age disagrees with her calendar age owing to temporal displacement). She has dark brown hair which she sometimes bleaches and her taste in clothes tends toward the practical, though she can dress up to very good effect when the need arises or the whimsy takes her. In the field, she is often found in a battered black leather car coat that is a bit too large for her. Notes: Rose Tyler grew up on Coalhill, one of the so-called "Crown Colonies" - worlds settled by Earth's United Kingdom during the First Earth Expansion Period (ca. 2001-2025). To this day, Coalhill proudly describes itself as a working-class world, settled primarily by colonists recruited from the lower echelons of 21st-century London's population. Coalhillers stereotype themselves as hard-working, hard-playing, practical people without much patience for the airs and graces of the upper crust, and Rose's upbringing and background were typical of the place and its era. A clever child but an indifferent student, Rose completed the compulsory phase of her education without distinction and left school as soon as she was able, taking a job in a department store. While working there, she was discovered by a talent scout from Ziggurat Records, who believed that her looks, voice, and working-class charm perfectly fit the requirements for the label's latest project, an attempt to replicate the lucrative "idol effect" characteristic of the Greater Rigel Sector Co-Prosperity Sphere in the pop culture of the Crown Colonies. This did not work, but Tyler's one album, released in 2405, met with commercial and critical success on her homeworld, making her something of a household name there, if not much of anywhere else. A handful of acting jobs followed, primarily in television programs made by the BBC's Coalhill branch. Though the instant international stardom she was promised by Ziggurat failed to appear, she kept her job at the department store as a fallback while she worked on building her entertainment career by degrees. It was at the store in the spring of 2407 that she first met the itinerant Time Lord known as the Doctor, who was on Coalhill to investigate the presence of the Nestene Consciousness there. Caught up in the events first by chance and then by choice, Rose helped the Doctor stop the Nestene from conquering the planet, then left with him when he departed. For a year or so of subjective time, Rose and the Doctor traveled the multiverse together, had many adventures, and formed an ever-stronger bond. The stresses of traveling with a Time Lord can change people, breaking some but crystallizing others. In Rose's case, the process took a rough, unfinished, bright but largely directionless child and transformed her into a poised, purposeful, courageous young woman with the beginnings of a formidable intellect. At one point, the Doctor attempted to return her to her home a few hours after she'd left so that she could visit her family, but a TARDIS miscalibration delivered them to 2409 instead. This small blunder turned out to be a blessing in disguise, since it positioned Rose perfectly to get in on the BBC's efforts to cast a replacement for the retiring Adam Felton as the title character on the popular sci-fi show Professor Enigma - and her absence provided just the right air of mystery and unpredictability that drew the casting directors' eyes to her CV. Today, she claims that she applied for the job as a joke, and to tease the Doctor (who has been occasionally nonplussed by the idea of a TV show based loosely on his life), never dreaming that they would actually take her candidacy seriously. But they did, and suddenly the Doctor - for a change - found himself dragged along in the wake of someone else's whirlwind life. Rose even cajoled him into appearing in an episode of the program himself, as the Victorian man of action Lord Eccleston. Once recording wrapped on her first season, Rose and the Doctor returned to their travels (after the producers extracted the Doctor's solemn promise that he wouldn't foul up their production schedule by mistiming her return again). Sadly, future appearances of Lord E (as the fandom dubbed him) would be prevented by the Doctor's regeneration in a subsequent adventure, but the change brought the two travelers even closer together. Over the next two subjective years, their adventures spanned a dozen galaxies and as many aeons, and Rose began to entertain the notion that they'd be together forever - until an unfortunate encounter with a Dalek dimensional weapon transported her back to the year 2399 and trapped her in a parallel universe. That universe, Gallifrey Chronal Catalog No. 102/G, is classified as a close-divergent offshoot of our own, GCC 100/W. History and current matters there are roughly equivalent to those we know, with a few key differences. The most significant point of divergence for our purposes was that 102/G's founding Wedge Defenders were primarily Britons, that universe's Worcester Polytechnic Institute having been in England, not the United States. Rose found herself in the city of New Albion, hub and capital of the United Kingdom of Zeta Cygni and the Rimward Territories - 102/G's counterpart to our own New Avalon. Trapped in a familiar but alien world, she quickly decided that there was only one viable course of action: learn whatever was required, and do whatever was necessary to obtain the resources needed, to get home again. To that end, she enrolled at the New Albion Institute of Science, determined to formalize and complete the wide-ranging education she had begun, in a haphazard, osmotic sort of way, during her time with the Doctor. Throwing herself into her studies, her predicament having provided all the motivation she had lacked in her earlier schooling and more, she accumulated several degrees over the next few years and earned renown as one of NAIS's most promising students. In her fourth year at NAIS, Rose was involved in the aftermath of a mishap in the Life Sciences laboratory that brought her into contact with the head of the Galactic Police Organisation, 102/G's counterpart to the IPO. Her ability, drive, single-minded determination, evident adventuring experience, and apparent fearlessness caught Brigadier Sir Daniel Griffin-Hudson's attention instantly, and when the dust settled he offered her a job with the GPO's high-level operations department, the Science Patrol. Rose took the job with the understanding that she would exchange her expertise for the GPO's resources, with an eye toward eventually escaping back to her home dimension. Brigadier Griffin-Hudson, a man who had spent some time of his own in exile, offered her whatever she needed to research and implement her escape in exchange for a four-year commitment to the Science Patrol. They sealed the deal with a handshake, he reopened the abandoned research station at Terminal Light for her use, and she got to work. Since 102/G was rendered a disjunct pocket dimension by the same accident that stranded Rose there, getting back to 100/W was far from easy; in fact, conventional crosstime physics maintains that it's impossible. Some people simply find impossibility motivational, though, and over the next six years - in between completing her advanced studies in hyperscience, going on to teach classes in the subject at her alma mater, and conducting operations as one of the Science Patrol's top agents - Professor Rose Tyler proved that she was one of them. In GCC 102/G 2410, with her commitment to the GPO, her calculations of the hypertime vectors, and her universal translocator array (or, as her Science Patrol colleagues dubbed it, the "dimension cannon") all completed, Rose gave away most of her things, made certain her successors in the GPO and at NAIS were in place and properly briefed, said her goodbyes, used her key to the Doctor's TARDIS to lock onto its interdimensional location, and fired herself into the unknown. She arrived back in GCC 100/W on May 8, 2410, at the home of IPO officers Donald and Katherine Griffin, to find that Don Griffin and the Doctor were in the final stages of building a similar apparatus in an effort to send the Doctor across to search for her. Reunited at last, the two travelers spent several weeks at the Griffins' to rest, recuperate, and get reacquainted. The differing spans of subjective time since their parting - about three years for the Doctor, more than ten for Rose - meant that the two had much to learn, but as learning is something a vocation for them both, this posed no particular hardship. If anything, they emerged from this period of adjustment a stronger team than they'd been before. The Doctor was delighted by the "new" Rose, a full-fledged action scientist in her own right, while Rose found that the perspective and experience she'd gained in her GPO career had left her better able to appreciate the dimensions (if you'll pardon the expression) of the Doctor's background and character that she'd previously overlooked or not understood. Shortly thereafter, Rose paid her first visit to Gallifrey, as part of Don Griffin's "backup" during what became the Project Phoenix Incident. She emerged from that adventure with an even greater appreciation for what the Doctor was up against vis-Ã -vis his homeworld, the respect of certain highly-placed members of Time Lord society, and a TARDIS - albeit a very old one - of her own. Shortly thereafter she was given the rare honor of a degree by acclamation (i.e., one that the Board of Provosts deemed had been earned by field experience and independent study rather than formal training at the Academy) by the Prydon Chapter of Time Lords. In addition to her powerful (if unevenly applied) intellect, Rose Tyler has considerable force of personality and an iron will. It is this strength of will, as much as any measure of raw intelligence, that fixes her Adjusted W-DeK score and makes her so successful in her chosen fields of study, which may go some way toward explaining the extremely segmented nature of her knowledge base. The things she's motivated or interested to learn, she can focus on with the intensity of an interstellar spotting laser. Those that she isn't, she simply can't be bothered about. As such, she has (for example) a knowledge of interdimensional barrier dynamics and certain exotic energy sources that rivals or even surpasses that of the Doctor, but has never learned to drive a car (which made for an entertaining guest appearance on Top Gear after the success of her first series of Professor Enigma) and is almost completely ignorant of cooking techniques beyond the preparation of cup ramen. She also possesses a medical degree, but never completed the secondary requirements and so is not licensed to practice medicine (something she's fond of pointing out when people mistakenly call her "Doctor"). However, despite her extensive technical and scientific experience, she's no armchair egghead. Rose was trained in the dangerous arts of the action scientist by some of New Albion's best, including the Brigadier and Count A.G. Petrarca, and she's equally at home doping out a tricky problem in the lab or defusing an Evil Science Bomb under fire. She's an excellent runner and, although not a front-line combatant, she can handle herself in a fight. She prefers to talk (or charm) her way out of trouble, and she's usually successful, but if push comes to shove, this is one professor who's not afraid to shove back. Having immersed herself in the delights and dangers of the action scientist's life for more than a decade, Rose has become impatient with the mundane realities of everyday life. She bores easily when nothing much is happening and constantly seeks the next intriguing puzzle or challenge (be it intellectual or physical). This sometimes leads her into trouble, but her adaptability and fearlessness usually lead her out again. It should be noted that these challenges do not always take the form of dangerous adventures. Sometimes she's simply seeking to invent a new gadget, win a scientific argument with the Doctor (a pastime both have come to take great delight in since her return from 102/G), get more involved in the production of Professor Enigma, or engineer a return to rock 'n roll (there are persistent rumors that she'll be appearing alongside the Art of Noise at least once in this summer's tour, possibly at one of their Crown Colonies dates in late August). As a recently invested Lord ["Lady"? What do you call a female one? -V-] of Time, Rose has received the Rassilon Imprimatur, a genetic modification designed to convey certain superhuman attributes useful in that profession. These include a heightened sensitivity to chronal phenomena, the extrasensory ability to perceive the hidden workings of the universe, a mild form of telepathy, a greatly extended lifespan, and the capacity for complete cellular regeneration on the point of physical death. (As she has not yet had her first regeneration, she remains physiologically human.) Unlike the Doctor, whose preferred field tool is the sonic screwdriver, Rose favors the laser variety. This occasionally causes friction between the two travelers, since the laser screwdriver is much more readily adapted into a deadly weapon, but since her general policy is to fight only if absolutely cornered, she's rarely forced to employ it thus - and even less often is she unable to find another, less destructive way of extricating herself. She suspects it annoys the Doctor somewhat how frequently she puts the lie to his often-stated maxim that those with access to deadly force rarely go to the trouble of seeking any other solution - which is fine with Rose, since she usually finds him rather tiresomely pompous when he gets to that point. In addition to her laser screwdriver and a few other odds and ends - she commonly carries a Science Patrol pocket scanner similar in function to an IPO tricorder, as well as such more mundane items as a flashlight with a telescopic magnet attachment - Rose's most significant possession is the antique TARDIS she "acquired" during her first visit to Gallifrey. This item, a Type 37 model, is even older than the Doctor's Type 40 and was abandoned for many years before she came across it in a storage room beneath the Panopticon. Resurrected by an infusion of energy from the cosmic entity known as the Phoenix, it appears now to be in good working order apart from its chameleon circuit, though in deference to its age (and because she prefers to travel with the Doctor), she rarely uses it for serious time travel. Instead, with its outer shell locked in the form of a red Glasgow police box from the 20th century, the Phoenix (as the ship was inevitably dubbed) serves as the principal prop, interior set, and location transport vehicle for the production of Professor Enigma. The Phoenix on location
Rose's relentless need to be interested can cause her to plunge into waters too deep to navigate alone, or lead her to overpack her schedule, taking on too many tasks for even her seemingly unbounded energy levels. Like the Doctor, she sometimes just needs someone to tell her to stop - and since the Doctor's never been much good at that himself, this can occasionally get the pair of them into even deeper waters. Fortunately, it's under such pressure that they really come into their own, and even more fortunately, they've accumulated an extended family of sorts in the Griffins and their circle who can both back them up and, on occasion, slow them both down long enough to catch their breath. So far as either of them has a home apart from the Doctor's TARDIS, it's the Griffin house on Tomodachi. Current assignment: As a member of Special Assignment 0, Rose Tyler maintains no official ties to the International Police, though she is known to be friendly with a number of IPO operatives and has publicly assisted in a number of cases. She customarily receives missions - or at least suggestions for same - from the Office of the Chief Technologist, usually through Don or Kitty Griffin. End of Text Data Extract thank you for using the Babylon Project Galactic Database |
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Gryphon
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2. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>Ah! One I've been eagerly waiting for, and I am not disappointed. Heh, sorry. I finished it days ago and then somehow forgot I hadn't posted it yet. Which is fine, because it gave me time to find a better file picture. (Sadly, she's too young in all the ones I've found where her hair is its proper color - I think they're from Billie Piper's teen-idol phase - so I guess even as a Proper Grown-Up she still bleaches it from time to time. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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zojojojo
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> so I guess even as a Proper Grown-Up she >still bleaches it from time to time. :) i have a hard time thinking of any of the (near-)human cast as "a proper grown-up" ... most of them are, in fact, quite improper! :) -Z --- Remember kids: guns make you stupid, duct tape makes you smart.
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Gryphon
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6. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-04-10 AT 02:47 AM (EDT) >>Billie Piper's teen-idol phase > >Oh man, there's a blast from the past. I'm in serious danger of >spending the rest of the afternoon listening to late 90s manufactured >pop on YouTube and it's entirely your fault. How is it my fault that you lack the willpower to stop clicking links you know will hurt you? Pfui. :) As an aside, I'm obscurely pleased that this is the second BPGD file in a row into which I've worked a reference to Rosalind Franklin, even if it is, on the face of it, a bit unlikely that Pete and Jackie Tyler would have named their daughter after her. (If I had to guess, I'd say that they didn't have a plan when they got to the hospital, and one of the magazines in the waiting room mentioned Dr. Franklin on the cover.) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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A Vile Gangster
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4. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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I read this last night and while the whole thing was amazing, > - Bronze medal, Jericho Street Junior School Under-7 Gymnastics Team this inclusion made my day. ---- Now Playing: Sam & Dave -- Hold on, I'm Comin' (Single, 1966) Don't you ever feel sad, Lean on me when times are bad. When the day comes and you're down, In a river of trouble and about to drown... Just hold on, I'm comin', Hold on, I'm comin'! < THIS SPACE FOR RENT > |
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7. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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Like Bob, I've been looking forward to this one as well. :) >While >working there, she was discovered by a talent scout from Ziggurat >Records, who believed that her looks, voice, and working-class charm >perfectly fit the requirements for the label's latest project, an >attempt to replicate the lucrative "idol effect" characteristic of the >Greater Rigel Sector Co-Prosperity Sphere in the pop culture of the >Crown Colonies. Ziggurat Records, eh? I think this is the 2nd "Co-Prosperity Sphere" that's been mentioned (the first being the Greater Independent Stellar Co-Prosperity Sphere (the one that New Japan is part of (I think)) >This did not work, but Tyler's one album, released in 2405, met with >commercial and critical success on her homeworld, making her something >of a household name there, if not much of anywhere else. A handful of >acting jobs followed, primarily in television programs made by the >BBC's Coalhill branch. Though the instant international stardom she >was promised by Ziggurat failed to appear, she kept her job at the >department store as a fallback while she worked on building her >entertainment career by degrees.
But knowing who owns Ziggurat, not on their dime, I would imagine. I was getting a little confused with what in Rose's story was UF-verse and what was parallel universe. Thanks for sticking in the occasional 100/W and 102/G reminders. Jeanne
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Gryphon
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8. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>I think this is the 2nd "Co-Prosperity Sphere" that's been mentioned >(the first being the Greater Independent Stellar Co-Prosperity Sphere >(the one that New Japan is part of (I think)) Oh, it's the same one. Basically a loose trading federation of the Japanese colonies settled in the First Diaspora (ca. 2005-2025). The Crown Colony Commonwealth in the Vega sector is a similar sort of thing, but with British colonies. I just sometimes forget what ought to be in between "Greater" and "Co-Prosperity Sphere". Or, if you'd prefer a more elegant in-universe explanation, the bureaucrats change it occasionally after some local politician irritably points out that at least one of the colonies isn't in the Rigel sector, then change it back when the fuss blows over. :) >>Though the instant international stardom she >>was promised by Ziggurat failed to appear, she kept her job at the >>department store as a fallback while she worked on building her >>entertainment career by degrees. > >But knowing who owns Ziggurat, not on their dime, I would imagine. No, indeed, they dropped the whole project when the expected results didn't appear instantly. Somebody over there is going to be mightily annoyed that they didn't make a bit more of an effort, or at least put some cheapass future-success hooks in the contract, if and when she makes that triumphant rock 'n roll comeback... --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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JeanneHedge
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Jun-06-10, 10:47 AM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>> Somebody over there is going to be mightily >>annoyed that they didn't make a bit more of an effort, or at least put >>some cheapass future-success hooks in the contract, if and when she >>makes that triumphant rock 'n roll comeback... > >And she will, of course, because what's a UF hero(ine) >without their side job as a million-selling rock star? <grin> > >-- Bob Especially when she's (rumored to be) going tourning with AoN. Look what they did for Cthia <s> Jeanne
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12. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>I'm sure someone was already fired when they found out she was staring >in Professor Enigma.Actually, knowing the culture over at Ziggurat, they probably all had a good laugh when the casting was announced. The firings would have started when they found out she was popular. :) "Have you seen this? It's the Radio Times 'Greatest Professors of All Time' poll. She's tenth. Tenth out of one hundred, and she's only been in four episodes so far. Now let me see, who was it that reported we'd 'grossly overestimated' her 'broad-market appeal' and that she'd only make it as a 'niche product'?""Pff. Professor Enigma is a cult show. It's the very definition of a niche product. This proves me right." "Sanderson, have you looked at the viewing figures lately? Since she took over, its niche is like the entire 14-35 demo in the Crown Commonwealth and the Republic of Zeta Cygni. That's a pretty big fucking niche. You're fired." --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Arashi
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16. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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"Since she took over, " Which actually makes me wonder. Based on that and a passing comment in Breakthrough... Dose Professor Enigma use the same concept as Doctor Who in that the Doctor is 'technically' the same person each season, just 'regenerated' into a new body? If so... Dose that mean the Professor was always a woman, or did their version of regeneration give the Prof the metaphorical finger? When in Danger, or in Doubt. Run in circles, scream and shout. |
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BobSchroeck
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Jun-08-10, 08:42 AM (EDT) |
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17. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>Dose Professor Enigma use the same concept as Doctor Who >in that the Doctor is 'technically' the same person each season, just >'regenerated' into a new body? If so... Dose that mean the Professor >was always a woman, or did their version of regeneration give the Prof >the metaphorical finger? Neither is necessarily the case. If you can give any credence to rumors repeated over the years, there have reportedly been several instances when actresses were among the candidates considered for a new regeneration of the Doctor; and if I'm not mistaken, there was a borderline-canon (wrong side of the border, but still...) Doctor Who story done for some charity function that featured a female Doctor. So a female Professor isn't necessarily going to be a radical change in the nature of the character. -- Bob ------------------- My race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite. |
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Mephron
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Jun-08-10, 10:21 AM (EDT) |
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20. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-08-10 AT 10:23 AM (EDT) >Neither is necessarily the case. If you can give any credence to >rumors repeated over the years, there have reportedly been several >instances when actresses were among the candidates considered for a >new regeneration of the Doctor; and if I'm not mistaken, there was a >borderline-canon (wrong side of the border, but still...) Doctor >Who story done for some charity function that featured a female >Doctor. Ah yes, "Doctor Who And The Curse Of Fatal Death"! With the following as the Doctor: Rowan Atkinson Richard E. Grant Jim Broadbent Hugh Grant Joanna Lumley http://www.veoh.com/collection/DrWhoComedy/watch/v606442CTZzRPHG is a place to watch it. Some nice poking at classic Doctor jokes, and Jonathan Pryce as the Master is worth the watching. Also, it was written by Stephen Moffat. -- Geoff Depew - Darth Mephron Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support. "And Remember! Google is your Friend!!" |
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BeardedFerret
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Jun-09-10, 09:07 PM (EDT) |
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25. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-09-10 AT 11:11 PM (EDT) by Gryphon (admin) >"They're not breasts, ok? They're Dalek bumps." NOTE: The Editors have determined that the picture originally provided in this post may cause damage to board users not wearing proper protective clothing. Therefore, as part of our commitment to board safety, we have replaced it with this lovely photograph of a Mark Five. Thank you. --G. |
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Gryphon
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Jun-09-10, 10:57 PM (EDT) |
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29. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-09-10 AT 10:57 PM (EDT) >Do I need to go club someone for you, Chief? It's a first offense, if memory serves. And it's a long flight. I think we can let this one slide. But the next time... "Well, I don't like it," Mark "Haywire" Luchini said. "We oughta go up there and smack some sense into Zoner." He got up. "I'll go get my bat." --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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Jun-10-10, 10:07 AM (EDT) |
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32. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>To continue the digression, what is that device strapped to the Mark >5's waist? It looks like some sort of tool with which to lightly >bruise obstreperous fishies. Dunno. It does appear to be some sort of truncheon, but I'm at a loss as to what practical use a hardhat diver would have for such a thing. *sigh* Sometimes I feel like the police chief in the short-lived Clerks animated series around here. "Look, does anyone have any questions that are about the deadly virus that threatens to kill us all?" "Could it kill the Grimace?" "Nothing can kill the Grimace." --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Astynax
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Jun-10-10, 03:33 PM (EDT) |
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33. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>NOTE: The >Editors have determined that the picture originally provided in this >post may cause damage to board users not wearing proper protective >clothing. Therefore, as part of our commitment to board safety, we >have replaced it with this lovely photograph of a Mark Five. Thank >you. --G. >...someone rule 34'd the Daleks, didn't they?
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Offsides
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Jun-11-10, 02:35 PM (EDT) |
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36. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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I suspect it was not so much the general concept of the image as the specific nature of the image that got it rule 34'd - not having seen it myself I can't comment on details, but if Gryphon looked at it and wished he hadn't seen it, that's as good a reason as any to redact it. Besides, I also suspect that its relevance was dubious at best, which is all the more reason to can it... Offsides [...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #π #include <stdsig.h> |
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Astynax
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Jun-11-10, 05:11 PM (EDT) |
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37. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>HELL no. It was a picture of Matt Smith in a dress (and a lovely >necklace) for what I can only assume was a previous role. Given the >fallout, I'll refrain from posting images of men in dresses in the >future. Or women in dresses. In fact dresses (and lovely necklaces) >from this point onward will be completely omitted from all future >posts. Huh... I must simply be jaded. A reaction of that magnitude causes me to suspect Lovecraftian horrors or worse. Very much YMMV I suppose.
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A Vile Gangster
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Jun-10-10, 06:16 PM (EDT) |
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34. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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> NOTE: The >Editors have...replaced it with this lovely photograph of a Mark Five. Thank >you. --G. Thank the gods. I'm not certain, but that other picture might have made me forget algebra. Oh, my poor, abused neurons. ---- Now Playing: Ulpio Minucci & Arlon Ober -- Rick Hunter's Theme(Robotech: The 20th Anniversary OST, 2005) Wait, wait; no, the algebra's still gone. < THIS SPACE FOR RENT > |
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The Wanderer
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Jun-08-10, 09:54 AM (EDT) |
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19. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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If memory serves, this has already been addressed somewhere; I don't have a link handy and I'm too lazy to go digging just at the moment. Essentially, the way it goes is that the Professor was and always had been male, but during the lead-up to the regeneration from the 99th Professor to the 100th, the BBC were running a big teaser-style "wait till you see what's we're going to do to mark the Big Significant Number" build-up-the-anticipation promotion/hype campaign. Then, when the 100th Professor first woke up after the regeneration, she was Rose. And the whole of her reaction, when she noticed the change, appears to have been to say "Okay. That's different." and take it entirely in stride, carrying on completely as normal. (Or as normal as things ever are after a regeneration, anyway.) |
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Gryphon
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Jun-08-10, 12:05 PM (EDT) |
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21. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-08-10 AT 12:10 PM (EDT) >If memory serves, this has already been addressed somewhere; I don't >have a link handy and I'm too lazy to go digging just at the moment. You are correct; it's in the Hitchhiker's Guide entry on Professor Enigma (here). But you've remembered correctly in the particulars, anyway. >Essentially, the way it goes is that the Professor was and always had >been male, but during the lead-up to the regeneration from the 99th >Professor to the 100th, the BBC were running a big teaser-style "wait >till you see what's we're going to do to mark the Big Significant >Number" build-up-the-anticipation promotion/hype campaign. It was the show's most successful pre-series promotional campaign ever! The tagline was, "Professor Enigma: Like No Other." >And the whole of her reaction, when she noticed the change, appears to >have been to say "Okay. That's different." and take it entirely in >stride, carrying on completely as normal. (Or as normal as things ever >are after a regeneration, anyway.) Her post-regeneration psychosis involved not believing people when they told her she was a woman, having been far too busy to take inventory. This went on until she caught sight of herself in a reflective surface and said, "Wait, stop the press, who is that? And why is she wearing my clothes?" Once she'd snapped out of that, though? Yeah, business as usual. As an aside, the bit at the end of the Guide file about the rumors that she was only going to stay for one season? Not true, but you know the Guide. The reason the producers didn't explicitly confirm that she'd be staying was because they were hedging their bets against the possibility that the Doctor would screw up during the off-season and cause her to miss 2410 or something. They had a rather clever contingency plan in place for that (not just a face-unseen regeneration like the one at the beginning of "Time and the Rani"), but it turned out not to be necessary. Instead, they just had to explain why she's suddenly become 30ish, which was much easier to dispose of in the first episode of series 424. :) --G. "That's you, Professor." "Is it? Oh! That explains a lot of things, actually. Well, come on, John. Don't just stand there basking in my pulchritude, work to do." -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Prince Charon
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Jun-08-10, 07:53 PM (EDT) |
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23. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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LAST EDITED ON Jun-08-10 AT 07:54 PM (EDT) Well, they do have untelevised adventures, and if the Professor's age is described the way the Doctor's is, long periods of time can pass off-screen (the Second Doctor tells his companions he's about 450, whereas the Fourth Doctor is around 746 when he meets Romana, and the Seventh Doctor is 953 in Time and the Rani), so its not unreasonable that she could have been separated from her companion(s) for a few centuries.“They planned their campaigns just as you might make a splendid piece of harness. It looks very well; and answers very well; until it gets broken; and then you are done for. Now I made my campaigns of ropes. If anything went wrong, I tied a knot; and went on.” -- Arthur Wellesley, First Duke of Wellington |
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Peter Eng
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Jun-07-10, 02:09 PM (EDT) |
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14. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>> Somebody over there is going to be mightily >>annoyed that they didn't make a bit more of an effort, or at least put >>some cheapass future-success hooks in the contract, if and when she >>makes that triumphant rock 'n roll comeback... > >And she will, of course, because what's a UF hero(ine) >without their side job as a million-selling rock star? <grin> >"All right, that's one 2x4, one Flying Dutchman, one animal style...excuse me -" *WHAM* *KAPOW* *ZZARK* *THUD* "...three large fries, large Diet Dr. Pepper, large Sprite, and a medium Fanta Orange. That'll be twenty-two credits. Your order will be at pick-up window #2." Peter Eng -- I've changed my mind. That's my UF avatar, right there. Okay, maybe not. |
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trigger
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Jun-08-10, 09:30 AM (EDT) |
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18. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>>And she will, of course, because what's a UF hero(ine) >>without their side job as a million-selling rock star? <grin> > >"Kissogram? What in the world is that?" Foreshadowing? I'd love to see more Amy Pond, although I think her character is rapidly cliching in DW. t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - HST |
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Gryphon
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Jun-08-10, 04:07 PM (EDT) |
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22. "RE: BPGD: TYLER, Rose"
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>>>And she will, of course, because what's a UF hero(ine) >>>without their side job as a million-selling rock star? <grin> >> >>"Kissogram? What in the world is that?" > >Foreshadowing?Heh, not really; just a facetious reference to "other jobs". Which is not to say we won't be seeing Pond again. Who knows, maybe the 100/W version actually is a kissogram. >I'd love to see more Amy Pond, although I think her >character is rapidly cliching in DW. I don't have any trouble with Amy herself, nor her portrayor (and both were fabulous in "Vincent and the Doctor"), but I do have to admit that the way the season arc is developing around her is making me more than a little anxious. Ah, well, not much longer now. At least Doctor Who has not - so far, touch wood - been infected with that infuriating habit American drama shows have of throwing a huge cliffhanger across the season hiatus. Given that DW's tend to be, what, nine or ten months, that would be a bit much. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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