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Armorsport

from Galactipedia, the Galactic Encyclopedia

This article is about the martial sport played with armored fighting vehicles, sometimes known by the German name Panzerspiel. You may be looking for Panzerkunst, the cyborg combat style also known as "The Armored Arts".

Armorsport is a martial sport which consists of simulated combat between armored fighting vehicles, usually (but not always) crewed by girls or young women. Although the specific eligibility rules vary depending on the style of play desired by the sanctioning body, it is widely known as "the tank game" - a misconception encouraged by the television drama miniseries Game of Tanks, which achieved something of cult status when it aired on Tomodachi TV in 2392.

Name

Armorsport is known by a number of different names depending on galactic region. The name "Armorsport" was adopted by the Interstellar Armorsport Federation for the standardized interscholastic version of the game in 2377, and when capitalized, specifically refers to that version of the game. In more general terms, simulated tank warfare for sport is also called armorsport (with a lowercase A) in much of human-controlled space. Old-line purists of the "pre-Federated" form of the sport still prefer to call it "Tankery" (with a capital T), or even by its original German name, Panzerspiel ("Armored Game"). In the Greater Rigel Sector Co-Prosperity Sphere and on other primarily Japanese-influence colonies (such as Zipang in the Enigma sector), it is known as sensha-dō (Japanese: "the way of the tank"), and is held to be one of the gendai budō or modern martial arts.

History

The roots of modern armorsport can be traced back to pre-Contact Earth, where, legend has it,[folklore?] an early form of the game was invented in 1945 as a way of doing something useful with all those tanks left over from the Second World War. Inspired in part by the writings of automotive pioneer Bertha Benz (who had died the previous year, and who speculated that the game could replace war in resolving future conflicts), Panzerspiel - or, in English, Tankery - quickly caught on with young women, who had been largely excluded from active participation in the war by the patriarchal social standards of the time.

Within a generation, the sport had achieved worldwide acceptance and come to be popularly regarded as an almost exclusively feminine activity. By the time of Earth's First Contact with the Salusian Empire, and through it the greater galaxy, in 1999, the sport had grown to be regarded as one of the traditional feminine arts - particularly in Japan, where, under the name sensha-dō, it had already earned status as a modern martial art.[citation needed]

The sport grew, but also changed radically, in the decades after Contact, as the First and Second Diasporas of Earthborn humanity carried it with them into the stars. Many other species - indeed, many other branches of humanity - found the very idea confounding. Also, the expense and the hazardous nature of the sport made it impractical to continue in many places, as did the stricter rules regarding equipment eligibility (which were among the first of the original standards to be amended in various interstellar versions of the game).

In other places, however, Tankery and/or sensha-dō thrived. Many colonies, particularly the Japanese ones, maintained a strong traditional bond with the sport, and some governments also saw it as a sort of backdoor to military preparedness in the event of problems with the homeworld. The game, or at least the right to the equipment required for it, is actually written into the Constitution of Tomodachi, Article XII: A well-regulated Militia being necessary for the Security of a Free World, the right of Young Women to keep and drive Tanks shall not be abridged.

The 2370s saw the first concerted attempt to reunify and standardized the scattered branches of the sport, with the establishment of the Interstellar Armorsport Federation and the publication of Standard Rules of Armorsport. As these things usually do,[sarcasm not required] this effort resulted in further, but more formal, fragmentation, as a number of other rival sanctioning bodies sprang up with their own preferred versions of the rules.

Rules

Main article: Rules of Armorsport and Variants

Although it is commonly summarized for laypeople as "tank warfare for girls", armorsport in all but its most absolutist forms is limited neither to tanks nor girls. It is conducted with a wide range of armored fighting vehicles, not just tanks, and although culturally viewed as a predominantly feminine activity in many places, Federation law does not allow players of any organized sport to be excluded on the basis of gender.

All forms of armorsport have the following in common: Matches are simulated battles fought between two teams of armored fighting vehicles. Beyond this, there is considerable variation.

Team sizes can vary widely, and range from single tanks fielded by small school clubs to large and diverse forces that would be significant military assets under other circumstances. It is customary (see Culture) for the captain of the larger team to at least make an effort to ensure something close to parity between the two forces actually taking part in the match, unless specific tournament rules preclude it or the captain of the smaller team waives the handicap.

"Classic" Tankery, played under the original pre-Contact rules, permits only the use of AFVs designed and built on Earth before the surrender of Nazi Germany to end the European phase of that planet's Second World War, May 8, 1945. Some extremely strict forms of sensha-dō take that restriction even further and require that teams limit themselves only to equipment that would logically have been operated by one combatant force in that war (e.g., all Soviet equipment, all German, or mixed UK and US hardware), but that rule is considered archaic and optional even under the modern Co-Prosperity Sphere Ministry for Sport regulations.

More modern or "freestyle" forms of the sport permit newer types of armored vehicle, usually broken down into period classes based on Earth's history. Non-Earth vehicles are either prohibited or assigned to classes based on a comparative analysis of their capabilities vs. different eras' Earth tanks. Better-funded armorsport programs may have multiple teams, each designed to compete in a different class. There are also occasional "all-up" competitions where the class rules are abandoned and any team can field anything it wants. These usually - but not always! - end in a rout of the lower-tech team.

Safety Technology

Armorsport is played with live weapons, not paint or laser-designated damage simulation, but the ammunition is specially constructed for less, rather than more, penetrating power. Normal anti-armor weapons are specifically designed either to penetrate the target vehicle's cabin, or to cause the interior surfaces to fragment lethally (a phenomenon known as "spalling"). Armorsport ammunition, by contrast, is designed to minimize rather than maximize cabin penetration and the possibility of injury or death to the crew. In addition, the interior spaces of vehicles prepared for armorsport are specially reinforced to further guard against spalling.

A direct hit from an armorsport tank's main gun will still damage the vehicle being hit, sometimes quite extensively (powerplant destruction is not uncommon), and the impact may throw the crew painfully around the cabin, but the above measures ensure that crew safety is maximized even if the vehicle itself is put out of commission by the hit. Instead of outright destruction, telemetry from the vehicles and the shells themselves is used by the referees' computers to gauge how much damage a given vehicle would have sustained, including possible crew casualties, had it been hit by a full-power war shot. Crew members who are marked as incapacitated will be notified and penalized for taking any further part in the action. A vehicle that is ruled "knocked out" (even if it has not literally been disabled) will shut down until the end of the match and display a flag indicating its status.

Practitioners

Although most forms of armorsport are open to all players today, the vast majority of armorsportists, Tankers, and sensha-dōka today are young human, part-human, and near-human females. Dedicated armorsportists start in grade school, with simulated skirmishes between armored cars, then move up to light tanks and cavalry fighting vehicles in middle school before graduating to proper tanks and heavy AFVs in high school. Along the way, the tactics and strategies used by the teams evolve in sophistication as well. (Some college teams even employ artillery and air support.)

There are no professional armorsport leagues at present, so for most girls and young women, armorsport ends with graduation from high school or college. Some go on to join armed forces and operate tanks for real, but most leave armored combat behind in adulthood.

Culture

The traditions of armorsport, and of Tankery and sensha-dō before them, call upon the players to be chivalrous and courteous to their opponents. Fair play, honesty, and honor are all qualities prized in and by most armorsportists. Team captains have been known to forfeit matches upon discovering that members of their team are engaging in underhanded tactics, even if technically permitted under the rules. At the same time, however, there exists a complicated web of customs and traditions dictating what is and is not a legitimate ruse de guerre (as opposed to cheating), and some teams are notorious for treading that sometimes-hard-to-see line very finely.

Modern armorsport rules place particular emphasis on the fact that it is a game, not a war. For instance, under the IAF's Standard Armorsport rules, players are not permitted to use the word "enemy" in reference to the opposing force, nor to describe the elimination of a competitor as a "kill". Doing so within hearing of the referees (for instance, on the radio) will result in a penalty. Actual fighting in the course of a match, either by tampering with safety systems or simply engaging in extravehicular fisticuffswomanship[I should edit this, but I just don't have the heart to!] with another player, is strictly prohibited, and players caught doing so will automatically forfeit the match for their team (many team captains will capitulate voluntarily before the referees can step in).

In extreme cases (such as deliberately firing any weapon at an opposing player who has left a vehicle), penalties can be much harsher, and often involve lifetime bans from the sport and criminal prosecution.

The development of armorsport as a traditionally feminine art is said by historians of the sport to have begun with a desire to encourage girls and young women to be physically active, mentally disciplined, spiritually enlightened, and morally upright. Particularly in the Co-Prosperity Sphere, sensha-dō is held to cultivate the most vital virtues of a modern woman, including honor, righteousness, compassion for her crewmates and opponents, physical courage, and the ability to hit a moving target at 250 yards.[uh, that last one may have lost something in translation]

Hazards

Despite the extensive safety precautions mandated by all the reputable sanctioning organizations, armorsport is a dangerous game. Player injuries are common, though usually not serious. The biggest danger is of blunt force trauma injuries from colliding with interior features of one's own vehicle. Few dedicated armorsportists reach the end of an active career without having suffered at least one concussion, and a great many have broken at least one bone. Since explosive ordnance and machine gun fire are also everyday features of armorsport matches, players must be very careful when leaving their vehicles (which is permitted, and often tactically necessary). Most armorsportists do not wear body armor because of the difficulty of managing it inside a tank, and quite a number have been accidentally hit by shrapnel or stray bullets while engaged in extratankular activity.[oh come on, that's not even a word] [it is now suckaaaaaz]

Beyond the above, there are numerous environmental hazards involved in the sport. Fire is always a possibility in any activity involving high-powered internal combustion engines and explosives. Toxic exhaust gases can build up in the confined spaces of a tank's compartments if the vehicle is not properly maintained or sustains damage to its exhaust system during play. In addition, most tanks do not swim well, so any battleground involving a water feature presents a small but nonzero drowning hazard.

However, an extensive studied conducted in 2401 by the CPS Ministry for Sport concluded that, statistically speaking, sensha-dō (which as a more "purist" approach is considered one of the most dangerous forms of armorsport)[citation needed] poses less risk of permanently disabling injury or death to an average player than repulsor racing, turfball, roller derby, or field hockey.[seriously?] According to another study, conducted in 2397 by the Crown Colony Commonwealth Health and Safety Executive, crew risks are about on par with Friday Night Firefight (which has an HSE "acceptable" rating for an interscholastic sport).

The Sport Today

In the early 25th century, armorsport and its variants are not widely popular, but tend to be embraced fervently wherever they are embraced at all. There are several different versions of the game sanctioned by different organizations, though each one's rulesets have special clauses under which teams from different branches of the sport can compete by mutual agreement. The IAF maintains a database of all the various rules convergencies and exceptions, and can provide referees trained in officiating so-called "mixed" matches.

Places where one or another variant of armorsport are played include:

- The Greater Rigel Sector Co-Prosperity Sphere (sanctioned by the CPS Ministry for Sport under the name sensha-dō)
- Zardon (IAF Standard Armorsport)
- The Vega Sector Crown Colony Commonwealth (mix of IAF Standard Armorsport and the Crown Colony Tankery Society's "classic Tankery" rules, depending on individual world)
- The Klingon Union (IAF Standard Armorsport, although traditional CPS sensha-dō also has its Klingon adherents, most notably at St. Mary Our Lady of the Blessed Blade Catholic Girls' Academy of Qo'noS (Extracted) on Klinzhai Prime)

Armorsport was popular in the Klingon Empire until the Civil War began, at which point it was banned as "human and decadent" (for which read "for girls") in the territories controlled by the Klavaarite revolutionary government. Many of the best Klingon Armorsport and sensha-dō schools fled the Empire during the confusion at the start of the war and took refuge on Klinzhai Prime, including St. Mary's above.

Armorsport has never achieved much of a foothold in the Republic of Zeta Cygni or the Salusian Empire, where walking mecha combat sports like Friday Night Firefight are much more the norm, but the game does have small, dedicated cult followings in both nations.

See also

- Sport in the Co-Prosperity Sphere
- Friday Night Firefight
- Game of Tanks (TV miniseries)
- The Feminine Arts

External Links

- The International Armorsport Federation
- Greater Rigel Sector Co-Prosperity Sphere Ministry for Sport sensha-dō page (Japanese)
- Klingon Armored Battle Games League (Klingonese)
- Vega Sector Crown Colony Tankery Society (that weird Standard they do in the Vega sector)
- Girls and Tanks: An Armorsport Fan Site



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   Glee!

And the digs at Wikipedia are as good as the article itself.


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   ... You are a very bad man. I approve.

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   > - The Vega Sector Crown Colony Commonwealth (mix of IAF Standard
>Armorsport and the Crown Colony Tankery Society's "classic Tankery"
>rules, depending on individual world)

One wonders if a certain Girl Guide troop might find an excuse to participate at some point, even if setting tanks on fire deliberately is against the rules.

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   >One wonders if a certain Girl Guide troop might find an excuse to
>participate at some point, even if setting tanks on fire deliberately
>is against the rules.

"One time! I did that one, time."

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I look forward to the first sensha-dō Rose Duel.

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   >>One wonders if a certain Girl Guide troop might find an excuse to
>>participate at some point, even if setting tanks on fire deliberately
>>is against the rules.
>
>"One time! I did that one, time."
>
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"Thing that keeps getting me is, setting things on fire is supposed to be Azula's thing Rhian."

"Indeed. I think I should sue."

"You guys are mean...!" *pouts*

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>Particularly in the
>Co-Prosperity Sphere, sensha-dō is held to cultivate the most
>vital virtues of a modern woman, including honor, righteousness,
>compassion for her crewmates and opponents, physical courage, and the
>ability to hit a moving target at 250 yards.[uh,
>that last one may have lost something in translation]

I probably don't even have to tell you this, but, Miyuki Kobayakawa and Natsumi Tsujimoto were members of the sensha-dō clubs at Beiwiru District High School and Nekomikoka Junior Women's College before they went to the Police Academy. Natsumi is still legendary in some circles for the time she righted their Napoleon when it overturned after a near-miss by opposing arty, forcing the referees to withdraw their elimination, since the tank was demonstrably still operational once she had done so and there's nothing in the rules that say you can't do that.

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   You know, a sensha-dō tradition may well be a major factor in why the Hanagumi are almost entirely female -- the girls simply had the experience with armor already, and transitioning from tanks to mecha probably wouldn't have been that much of a problem.

Of course that then raises the question of Iris -- precocious prodigy on the field or a team mascot who got swept up in the recruiting drive entirely by accident?

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8. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >You know, a sensha-dō tradition may well be a major factor in
>why the Hanagumi are almost entirely female -- the girls simply had
>the experience with armor already, and transitioning from tanks to
>mecha probably wouldn't have been that much of a problem.

Heh. That would make Ōgami feel even more conspicuous than he already did, too.

>Of course that then raises the question of Iris -- precocious prodigy
>on the field or a team mascot who got swept up in the recruiting drive
>entirely by accident?

Well, canonically, she's the most powerful psychic they have, which is why she's on the front line in the first place, so I'm gonna go with 1.

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   After seeing this bizarre but somehow delightful show, I wished there was a submarine warfare spin off.

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>After seeing this bizarre but somehow delightful show, I wished there
>was a submarine warfare spin off.

Girls und U-Boote, in which operating WWII-vintage diesel-electric submarines is held to develop the classical feminine virtues of stealth, cunning, claustrophilia, personal uncleanliness,* and silent, invisible murder. :)

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   >Girls und U-Boote, in which operating WWII-vintage
>diesel-electric submarines is held to develop the classical feminine
>virtues of stealth, cunning, claustrophilia, personal uncleanliness,*
>and silent, invisible murder. :)

Kurogane Pukapuka Tai is probably about as close as you're going to come.

As a product, it's more uneven than either GuP or Arpeggio, more towards the Strike Witches end of things. (Though not, thank god, that far.) But hey, there is a Kriegsmarine (female) ace who shows up as a major character.

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48. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   LAST EDITED ON May-01-17 AT 01:06 PM (EDT)
 
>>Girls und U-Boote, in which operating WWII-vintage
>>diesel-electric submarines is held to develop the classical feminine
>>virtues of stealth, cunning, claustrophilia, personal uncleanliness,*
>>and silent, invisible murder. :)
>
>Kurogane Pukapuka Tai is probably about as close as you're going to come.
>
>As a product, it's more uneven than either GuP or Arpeggio, more
>towards the Strike Witches end of things. (Though not, thank god, that
>far.) But hey, there is a Kriegsmarine (female) ace who shows
>up as a major character.
>
>-----
>
>"V, did you do something foolish?"
>
>"Yes, and it was glorious."

Well, ACTUALLY...

There IS such a thing. Well, kinda.

High School Fleet features young girls whose greatest ambition is to join the Blue Mermaids, protecting their floating cities from pirates and other raiders. So they train by serving as command and crew of replicas of WW2 vessels.

Or as I call it, Girls und Panzerschiffs.

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16. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   You forgot "and smelling slightly of diesel fuel, no matter how hard you try not to".

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17. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >You forgot "and smelling slightly of diesel fuel, no matter how hard
>you try not to".

Pretty sure most of the retro-league Tankery girls do that too. Or gasoline, depending.

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19. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   Could be worse, at least it's not any of the JP-series of turbine fuels, which they'd run into in a "modern" (late 20th/early 21st century) armor unit.

Fun fact: Jet-A fuel was reformulated in the 80s to address toxicity concerns (mainly cancer), but the new formulation *reeks* so bad that it's actually worse for crew health overall because of the inhalation hazard.

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20. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-22-14 AT 03:52 AM (EDT)
 
>Girls und U-Boote, in which operating WWII-vintage
>diesel-electric submarines is held to develop the classical feminine
>virtues of stealth, cunning, claustrophilia, personal uncleanliness,*
>and silent, invisible murder. :)

Girls Jagen Rot Oktober being the College Years when they're deemed old enough to mess with nuclear power plants and caterpillar drives :P

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21. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>Girls und U-Boote, in which operating WWII-vintage
>>diesel-electric submarines is held to develop the classical feminine
>>virtues of stealth, cunning, claustrophilia, personal uncleanliness,*
>>and silent, invisible murder. :)
>
>Girls Jagen Rot Oktober being the College Years when they're
>deemed old enough to mess with nuclear power plants and caterpillar
>drives :P

Not to be confused with Girls und Jäger, which, well, I don't have to draw you a diagram.

>Tupolev-chan, you arrogant ass! You've killed us!

snrk!

That's one of the great exit lines, right up there with

"She won't answer the helm, and we're locked into the moon's gravitational pull! What do we do?!"

"... We die."

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22. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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>Not to be confused with Girls und Jäger, which, well, I
>don't have to draw you a diagram.

Which IS occasionally confused with Girls und Jägermonsters, one of the more popular late-night series coming out of Mechanicsburg Station (in the Nova Europa system).

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39. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   Which should not, itself, be confused with Girl und Jägermeister, the heartwrenching tale of a young fraulein and her struggle with alcoholism after the third World War.

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40. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   I was so trying not to go there, but then lo and behold, you went and did it. Kudos.

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41. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   I admit to dithering about it for a while, then saying 'Ah, what the hell. They can only lynch me once.' :)


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42. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   Oh ye of little faith! Temp us not with such a challenge :)

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43. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   Just make sure you use cotton rope. Synthetics make me itch somethin' awful.


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44. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>Not to be confused with Girls und Jäger, which, well, I
>>don't have to draw you a diagram.
>
>Which IS occasionally confused with Girls und Jägermonsters,
>one of the more popular late-night series coming out of Mechanicsburg
>Station (in the Nova Europa system).

Corwin has every episode of Girls und Königsmonster on MultiDisc. I'd say it's one of his guilty pleasures, except he feels no guilt.

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45. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >Corwin has every episode of Girls und Königsmonster on
>MultiDisc. I'd say it's one of his guilty pleasures, except he feels
>no guilt.

For some reason, my mind parsed that as Girls und Koenigsegg at first, which would probably also qualify as a guilty pleasure, but with hopefully less property damage.

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46. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>Corwin has every episode of Girls und Königsmonster on
>>MultiDisc. I'd say it's one of his guilty pleasures, except he feels
>>no guilt.
>
>For some reason, my mind parsed that as Girls und Koenigsegg at
>first, which would probably also qualify as a guilty pleasure, but
>with hopefully less property damage.

That's just one episode of Girls und Stig, which is... well, not entirely Corwin's cup of tea, but I think Dorothy watches it.

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61. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   LAST EDITED ON Nov-29-17 AT 01:26 PM (EST)
 
I was finally getting around to watching Girls und Panzer and I was reminded of this thread.

And then, I saw this posting and was reminded of Bakuon!!

(Some say she weighs only as much as four apples, and was the principal's sempai twenty years ago...)

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23. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >Not to be confused with Girls und Jäger, which, well, I
>don't have to draw you a diagram.

No, but I'm quite fond of the fanart.


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24. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>Not to be confused with Girls und Jäger, which, well, I
>>don't have to draw you a diagram.
>
>No, but I'm quite fond of the fanart.

And quite right too, although you may also be thinking of Girls Sind Jäger, which is a different thing altogether. :)

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31. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>>Not to be confused with Girls und Jäger, which, well, I
>>>don't have to draw you a diagram.
>>
>>No, but I'm quite fond of the fanart.
>
>And quite right too, although you may also be thinking of Girls
>Sind Jäger
, which is a different thing altogether. :)

Well, there's that, too.

Just watch out for Girls Bumsen Jäger.


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13. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >Some extremely strict forms of
>sensha-dō take that restriction even further and require that
>teams limit themselves only to equipment that would logically have
>been operated by one combatant force in that war (e.g., all Soviet
>equipment, all German, or mixed UK and US hardware), but that rule is
>considered archaic and optional even under the modern Co-Prosperity
>Sphere Ministry for Sport regulations.

Let me guess: This rule was all too vulnerable to competitors doing historical research to justify why their 'Soviet' force has a Sherman, (lend-lease), or their 'German' one a T-34, (captured).

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14. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>Some extremely strict forms of
>>sensha-dō take that restriction even further and require that
>>teams limit themselves only to equipment that would logically have
>>been operated by one combatant force in that war (e.g., all Soviet
>>equipment, all German, or mixed UK and US hardware), but that rule is
>>considered archaic and optional even under the modern Co-Prosperity
>>Sphere Ministry for Sport regulations.
>
>Let me guess: This rule was all too vulnerable to competitors doing
>historical research to justify why their 'Soviet' force has a Sherman,
>(lend-lease), or their 'German' one a T-34, (captured).

More likely it's just hard enough to find vintage tanks out in the greater galaxy without having to make sure they're all German or whatever.

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15. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >"Classic" Tankery, played under the original pre-Contact rules,
>permits only the use of AFVs designed and built on Earth before the
>surrender of Nazi Germany to end the European phase of that planet's
>Second World War, May 8, 1945. Some extremely strict forms of
>sensha-dō take that restriction even further and require that
>teams limit themselves only to equipment that would logically have
>been operated by one combatant force in that war (e.g., all Soviet
>equipment, all German, or mixed UK and US hardware), but that rule is
>considered archaic and optional even under the modern Co-Prosperity
>Sphere Ministry for Sport regulations.

Given the combatants mentioned here -- and the cutoff date -- I take it not even the Co-Prosperity Sphere's Tankers think that their WW2-era's namesake's tanks are worth bothering with?


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18. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>"Classic" Tankery, played under the original pre-Contact rules,
>>permits only the use of AFVs designed and built on Earth before the
>>surrender of Nazi Germany to end the European phase of that planet's
>>Second World War, May 8, 1945. Some extremely strict forms of
>>sensha-dō take that restriction even further and require that
>>teams limit themselves only to equipment that would logically have
>>been operated by one combatant force in that war (e.g., all Soviet
>>equipment, all German, or mixed UK and US hardware), but that rule is
>>considered archaic and optional even under the modern Co-Prosperity
>>Sphere Ministry for Sport regulations.
>
>Given the combatants mentioned here -- and the cutoff date -- I take
>it not even the Co-Prosperity Sphere's Tankers think that their
>WW2-era's namesake's tanks are worth bothering with?

Well, the list is not meant to be comprehensive, but in general, no. Not many survivors from the Pacific theater in any event. They didn't hold up so well. Humidity, you know.

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25. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>>"Classic" Tankery, played under the original pre-Contact rules,
>>>permits only the use of AFVs designed and built on Earth before the
>>>surrender of Nazi Germany to end the European phase of that planet's
>>>Second World War, May 8, 1945. Some extremely strict forms of
>>>sensha-dō take that restriction even further and require that
>>>teams limit themselves only to equipment that would logically have
>>>been operated by one combatant force in that war (e.g., all Soviet
>>>equipment, all German, or mixed UK and US hardware), but that rule is
>>>considered archaic and optional even under the modern Co-Prosperity
>>>Sphere Ministry for Sport regulations.
>>
>>Given the combatants mentioned here -- and the cutoff date -- I take
>>it not even the Co-Prosperity Sphere's Tankers think that their
>>WW2-era's namesake's tanks are worth bothering with?
>
>Well, the list is not meant to be comprehensive, but in general, no.
>Not many survivors from the Pacific theater in any event. They didn't
>hold up so well. Humidity, you know.

... would that matter? The plans would still be available. You could get a lot of mileage out of surprising the enemy team with something that has a performance profile they're unfamiliar with even if the actual tank is mediocre.

Although I will note that I'm parsing "designed and built" as "you must use a tank design that was built prior to May 8th, 1945" rather than "you must use an actual hull that rolled off the assembly line prior to that date."

Because, I mean, the latter would basically ensure that that form of the sport eventually died out. Tanks wear out. They wear out fast. Especially once from that era. Treads alone probably need to be replaced after every single match, so that's already one major component you'd have to very quickly switch to using modern repros of. Eventually you'd have people rolling around in hulls in which every single major component (including, er, the hull) had been replaced with something machined well after 1945.

Would make more sense if everyone were using modern repros rather than actually things that were busting down hedgerows in the bocage.

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26. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>>Given the combatants mentioned here -- and the cutoff date -- I take
>>>it not even the Co-Prosperity Sphere's Tankers think that their
>>>WW2-era's namesake's tanks are worth bothering with?
>>
>>Well, the list is not meant to be comprehensive, but in general, no.
>>Not many survivors from the Pacific theater in any event. They didn't
>>hold up so well. Humidity, you know.
>
>... would that matter? The plans would still be available. You could
>get a lot of mileage out of surprising the enemy team with something
>that has a performance profile they're unfamiliar with even if the
>actual tank is mediocre.
>
>Although I will note that I'm parsing "designed and built" as "you
>must use a tank design that was built prior to May 8th,
>1945" rather than "you must use an actual hull that rolled off the
>assembly line prior to that date."
>
>Because, I mean, the latter would basically ensure that that form of
>the sport eventually died out. Tanks wear out. They wear out fast.
>Especially once from that era. Treads alone probably need to be
>replaced after every single match, so that's already one major
>component you'd have to very quickly switch to using modern repros of.
>Eventually you'd have people rolling around in hulls in which every
>single major component (including, er, the hull) had been replaced
>with something machined well after 1945.
>
>Would make more sense if everyone were using modern repros rather than
>actually things that were busting down hedgerows in the bocage.

Reproductions are allowed in the original show, if built with the same materials:

3-01 Participating vehicles' specifications

The only vehicles allowed to participate are the following :


  • Vehicles whose design was completed before August 15, 1945
  • Vehicles that had begun prototype trials by the aforementioned date
  • Vehicles whose construction was planned using only materials available before the aforementioned date
  • Vehicles which meet these requirements must be confirmed to be constructed using materials that were available at that time.

For vehicles that never advanced from the planning stage, the League will decide on their eligibility on a case-by-case basis.

However, in the event that there is difficulty supplying the appropriate parts, the League may determine the allowable extent of reproductions and modifications.
(from Rules of Sensha-do)

--- Philip






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27. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   So who was silly enough to try building one of these?

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28. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >So who was silly enough to try building one of
>these?
>
>"It's not just our Senior class's Sensha-do unit, it's also
>their classroom! And dormitory!"

I was going to say, that's actually the DSM Armor Club's clubhouse.

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29. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >So who was silly enough to try building one of
>these?

Somewhere out there, there's an Armor Club that used My Tank Is Fight! as their tech bible.

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30. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-23-14 AT 03:01 AM (EDT)
 
Oh, the Ratte is easy-- disqualify it for being a mobile coastal defence battery rather than a tank.

Alternately, since they'd have to be built using materials available at the time, it simply gets disqualified for being unable to move due to the suspension crapping out.

Now, the gas turbine powered Panther, on the other hand, would be pretty interesting...


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32. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >Alternately, since they'd have to be built using materials available
>at the time, it simply gets disqualified for being unable to move due
>to the suspension crapping out.

Never mind the suspension, what about the roads? I'm not sure how good the 1940s engineers were at working out ground pressure figures, but from what I read a few years back this thing would have crushed roads wherever it went. And never mind finding a bridge that wouldn't collapse immediately (as opposed to collapsing when it was half way across...). A neat idea, like many of the Wunderwaffe, but not quite what most people — except a certain Herr H. — might call "practical".

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33. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >A neat idea, like many of the Wunderwaffe, but not
>quite what most people — except a certain Herr H. — might call
>"practical".

I dunno, I think even Hitler looked at the spec for the Monster and said, "You guys are fucking with me, right?"

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34. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >I dunno, I think even Hitler looked at the spec for the Monster
>and said, "You guys are fucking with me, right?"

No, apparently he actually went to Krupp and told them to take a railway gun that was a handful just to operate normally, and build it to be fully mobile. It took Albert Speer telling Krupp not to waste any resources on it for the project to get the axe.

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35. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   Strangely enough, they got the turret of the thing built, and that's how the wider world found out about it- when the Ratte was cancelled, the turret was shipped to France and installed on the Atlantic Wall, where it was discovered during the Allied invasion.

Of course, they should have known from building the Maus that it wasn't going to work. Krupp actually built 2 of those things, and the best indictment of the vehicle's failings comes from the Soviets; the Red Army captured one of the prototypes in 1945 and tried to send it home for testing and inspection. Due to a complete inability to fit on any form of rail transport, the Soviets had to drive the beast home. It took *8 months* to get to Moscow.

P.S. while double-checking my sources on the Maus, I found this. In the words of Richard Hammond, "really quite scared now!"

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


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36. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   LAST EDITED ON Aug-25-14 AT 07:41 PM (EDT)
 
What I want to know is, are there rules for using a Class III free-roaming spectre as a reconnaissance unit, specifically when piloting an M3A1 Stuart. :)


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37. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >What I want to know is, are there rules for using a Class III
>free-roaming spectre as a reconnaissance unit, specifically when
>piloting an M3A1 Stuart. :)

Probably not. Despite their legal status in some parts of the galaxy, supernatural beings rarely figure in organized human/humanoid sports rules.

(Also, a Stuart would be an iffy choice for Armorsport, although, that being said, it's no iffier than some of the tanks the Ōarai Girls' Academy sensha-dō team actually uses on the show. There was that one issue of G.I. Combat where the Stuart got blown up and replaced with an M26 Pershing, though... )

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38. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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>Probably not. Despite their legal status in some parts of the galaxy,
>supernatural beings rarely figure in organized human/humanoid sports
>rules.
>
>(Also, a Stuart would be an iffy choice for Armorsport, although, that
>being said, it's no iffier than some of the tanks the Ōarai
>Girls' Academy sensha-dō team actually uses on the show.
>There was that one issue of G.I. Combat where the Stuart got
>blown up and replaced with an M26 Pershing, though... )

They threw out a M3 Lee for god's sake.

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47. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   LAST EDITED ON Mar-27-17 AT 07:54 AM (EDT)
 
The world of GuP manga (specifically Girls und Panzer: Ribbon Warrior), has given us a new competition: Tankathlon. There are a few distinct differences between it and sensha-dō, the first being that it's an unofficial sport in sort of the same manner as street racing. Matches are set up via a "committee," but that's about the only formality involved.

The only real restriction set on the sport is that the participating tanks can not be heavier than 10 tons, which means only light tanks and tankettes can be used. Being an unofficial sport also means teams are fighting more for bragging rights than championships or prizes, though the latter can be part of the agreed match. The sport especially appeals to those school ships that either can't afford a formal sensha-dō team or can't afford to field anything bigger than a light tank.

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49. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >Culture) for the captain of the larger team to
>at least make an effort to ensure something close to parity between
>the two forces actually taking part in the match, unless specific
>tournament rules preclude it or the captain of the smaller team waives
>the handicap.
>

Well, there was the one time where the St. Trinian's Tank team tried using a Bolo Mk XXIII in a match........

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50. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >Well, there was the one time where the St. Trinian's Tank team tried
>using a Bolo Mk XXIII in a match........

Yes, but Pravda's KV-2 put a stop to that foolishness. The vengeful hand of Stalin isn't having any of that nuclear-powered AI nonsense.

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51. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>Well, there was the one time where the St. Trinian's Tank team tried
>>using a Bolo Mk XXIII in a match........
>
>Yes, but Pravda's KV-2 put a stop to that foolishness. The vengeful
>hand of Stalin isn't having any of that nuclear-powered AI nonsense.

Thankfully Pravda was unable to locate a functioning Mammoth Tank.

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52. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >
>Thankfully Pravda was unable to locate a functioning
>Mammoth Tank.
>

Reading incomprehension: I read "Mimmoth Tank" for a moment there, and imagined something from Mechanicsburg Station which is comparable to a Napoleon.

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53. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>
>>Thankfully Pravda was unable to locate a functioning
>>Mammoth Tank.
>>
>
>Reading incomprehension: I read "Mimmoth Tank" for a moment there,
>and imagined something from Mechanicsburg Station which is comparable
>to a Napoleon.

One layer of puff pastry, one layer of fruit, one layer of sturdy Russian engineering, one layer of pastry cream...

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54. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   What's status of Tank Witches in Armorsport?


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55. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >What's status of Tank Witches in Armorsport?

As far as I know, there aren't any. Our Witches at War happened in a different timeline, that particular brand of magic hasn't been seen in the main UF universe.

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56. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   Pity. Would be quite spectacular show. More so than aerial Striker fight, for ground-bound watchers.
Well, possible future of Strike Witches and possible comments from Gryphon about some ways of combat entertainment back home may leave a seed of an idea in fertile soil...


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57. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>What's status of Tank Witches in Armorsport?
>
>As far as I know, there aren't any. Our Witches at War
>happened in a different timeline, that particular brand of magic
>hasn't been seen in the main UF universe.

I'm still wondering if Bonaparte (the tank, not the Corsican ;) ) will show up.

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58. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >>>What's status of Tank Witches in Armorsport?
>>
>>As far as I know, there aren't any. Our Witches at War
>>happened in a different timeline, that particular brand of magic
>>hasn't been seen in the main UF universe.
>
>I'm still wondering if Bonaparte (the tank, not the Corsican ;) ) will
>show up.

If I recall, isn't Boneparte a literal class of mini-tank? I seem to recall it belonging mainly to Zardonian Judges.

I believe we even met Leona in one story...


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59. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >
>If I recall, isn't Bonaparte a literal class of mini-tank? I seem to
>recall it belonging mainly to Zardonian Judges.
>

You are absolutely right.

>
>I believe we even met Leona in one story...
>

I'm not sure about Leona, but I know we've met her daughter.

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60. "RE: Galactipedia: Armorsport"
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   >I'm still wondering if Bonaparte (the tank, not the Corsican ;) ) will
>show up.

Nora has half-convinced Yukari that Bonaparte (the original handmade one, not a production Napoleon-class tank) will be at Parents' Day in the spring, given that it's her dad and all.

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